Baxter Holmes: Celtics not in top-3 for Love

[rondohondo]

I have to believe that if we are sending 4 1st rd picks (2 brooklyn ones) the C's are going to be able to unload Wallace for Martin in the deal , at least I would hope ...

So something like

Bos sends: Wallace, Bass(Expiring), Sully or KO, #6,#17, BRK 2016,2018
Minny sends: Martin and Love


Our left over trade chips would be

10 mil + TPE
Bogans 5 mil ( non-guaranteed)
Anthony 3.8 mil (expiring)
Babb,Pressy, Johnson ( all non-guaranteed) around 1-2 mil
KO as a young prospect

-2015 C's pick , 2015 Clippers pick, 2015 Phi 1st rd pick (or early seconds if they don't make the playoffs)
- 2016 C's pick
- 2017 ability to switch picks with Brooklyn

That still leaves a lot of moveable contracts and picks to add talent

1)TPE and the 2015 Philly pick (probably 2 early 2nd rd picks)  = Asik
2) Bogans, Anthony, Babb, Pressy, Johnson add up to about 10 mil in non-guaranteed and expiring contracts left. Add that with a pick or 2 and you might be able to add another big piece for the bench or upgrade from Jeff Green or Bradley

[Vermont Green]

I keep hearing deals that start with #6 plus #17.  The problem is that Minni already has #13 and 3 second round picks.  I don't think they want or need two more first round picks this years.  There is kind of an assumption that Minni is playing poker (and that is likely part of it) but I am starting to think that maybe they really do want more players and fewer picks.

We probably need to trade a pick and something for a young player, for example maybe Dion Waiters or Shumpert.

[RJ87]

I keep hearing deals that start with #6 plus #17.  The problem is that Minni already has #13 and 3 second round picks.  I don't think they want or need two more first round picks this years.  There is kind of an assumption that Minni is playing poker (and that is likely part of it) but I am starting to think that maybe they really do want more players and fewer picks.

We probably need to trade a pick and something for a young player, for example maybe Dion Waiters or Shumpert.

They could probably package #13 and #17 to move up a little further - possibly to Philly if they don't move #10. Could also try to package #13, #17, and a 2nd to Charlotte for #9. Maybe they sell a few 2nd rounders for cash. 2nd rounders are also interesting for overseas selections if they wanna stash a player or two. They'll have plenty of flexibility and options if they don't want to keep all of those picks.

[aporel#18]

If Danny offers 2 Brooklyn picks from 2016 to 2017 (pick or right to swap), he shouldn't be allowed to make trades.

Sully+ #6+ Clipper's pick + Bogans+Bass should be it. If Flip and the Timberwolves want more than that, good riddance and have fun.

Kevin Love is, basically, a rich man Avi Lee. Let Golden State trade the farm for him. Celtics shouldn't enter a bidding war for a guy that doesn't play Defense.

[chambers]

I call bullcrap.
Posturing from a desperate Flip Saunders.
The Nuggets? Do they really think Love would re-sign in Denver with Javale MacGee?
We are getting closer to the final table of this poker tournament and Danny's ever steady, aggressive play is forcing Flip to play back aggressively..even if that means bluffing.
Flip saw the Chad Ford quote and the other 'Boston trumps' everyone media quotes and thought he'd leak a few of his own rumors.
Go Danny!

I can't see Danny agreeing to that deal unless we are
a) unloading Wallace
b) getting back Dieng or a future Wolves first rounder as well.

He won't have enough left to make more star moves.

The 6th, 17th and 2016 Clippers pick, Jarred Sullinger+Bogans+Anthony is the max he should and probably would give up.

[fairweatherfan]

I keep hearing deals that start with #6 plus #17.  The problem is that Minni already has #13 and 3 second round picks.  I don't think they want or need two more first round picks this years.  There is kind of an assumption that Minni is playing poker (and that is likely part of it) but I am starting to think that maybe they really do want more players and fewer picks.

We probably need to trade a pick and something for a young player, for example maybe Dion Waiters or Shumpert.

My guess is we'd get at least one 2nd rounder back, either to flip elsewhere or to pick up a late pick prospect.  Remember there was a story a couple days back saying we were looking at getting one.

It's also possible Minnesota themselves might flip one of our picks via handshake agreement with another team.  Lot of possibilities.

[Smokeeye123]

Baxter Holmes?

Love is going to be in Boston green or bulls red on draft night. I'd be shocked if he was traded to GS, HOU, or DEN...They have barely any assets.

[GreenWarrior]

the only way I see Minn. not looking at our offer as the best is if they're afraid of their ability to draft properly.

[Tr1boy]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

[greg683x]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

[colincb]

April 16 -- Last Day of 2013-14 Regular Season. See exception below however. Anybody can be traded once the NBA Finals end.

http://www.nba.com/analysis/00421026.html

Trades

Teams may trade players until the Trading Deadline on the 16th Thursday of each season. Teams may resume trading at the end of the regular season, except that no playoff team may trade a player on its playoff roster until the team is eliminated from the NBA Playoffs.

[crownontherocks]

Sources: Warriors Trading David Lee, Harrison Barnes For Tyson Chandler 'Won't Happen'

However, this potential deal won't happen, according to sources.

The Warriors' only purpose in the potential trade would be shed the two years and nearly $30 million left on Lee's contract. Chandler has one year and less than $15 million remaining on his contract with the New York Knicks.

Realgm


But my question is if there offering lee to other teams.  How serious can they be to try to go after love , and lets just say klay would go in. Would klay barnes green be enough


I just want to fast forward to next thur already

[greg683x]

What the heck does Denver have to offer that is better than ours?

I bet thats what Danny asked Flip.....and his response was......What the heck do you care?  You only think hes worth 2 first rounders and pudgy PF.

[Tr1boy]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

[D.o.s.]

when is the first day of the offseason that trades can occur? draft night?

im pretty sure they can occur now, and I think you can make trades once the season ends and your team and the team youre trading with is out of the playoffs and the players being traded dont have any options to exercise on their contract.

So since the Celts are clearly ahead of everyone else to get Love (per some sources and many fans here), why isn't the trade a done deal by now??

Because Minnesota is going to wait until draft night to try and see what happens.


You can think of it like an Ebay auction -- Minnesota's hoping that there will be a last second bidding war (metaphorically speaking) and that some sucker is going to overpay.