Baxter Holmes: Celtics not in top-3 for Love

[Fafnir]

Ford states emphatically that the Celtics have offered 6, 17, Ollie or Sully, two future Brooklyn picks.

No way any other team comes close to matching that offer.

I think it is too much, like most of you do.

Wolves are just trying to increase the offer.  I wish Danny would just withdraw it.

Interesting that its two Brooklyn picks.   I would have reservation there.  Much rather try to move the Clippers pick or one of our own along with 6 & 17.

The reason to offer the Brooklyn picks is probably to hedge against Love/Rondo leaving.

Also Minnesota might value them higher than Boston's if they project Boston's picks to the bottom third of the draft with Love in the eastern conference.

[Rondo9]

Where has Ford said it was the 2 Brooklyn picks? Is that from some chat because he hasn't said that anywhere that I can find

What were the Celtics offering for Love? Also, what makes Boston think Love would resign?
Chad Ford  (1:21 PM)

6, 17, future No. 1s from the Nets + Sullinger and/or Olynk. I think Boston is one of the three or four places Love would be happy to land. I think he'd re-sign.

Russell (Minneapolis, MN)

What's the latest on Kevin Love being traded? Is Boston the best offer (if so, who would Minny take at No. 6)?
Chad Ford  (1:04 PM)

I was told by a good source in Minnesota that as of Monday, the Celtics had the best offer on the table and were the favorites to land Love. I think Bill Simmons reported something similar today. I know the Boston Herald just said the opposite -- that the Warriors and Nuggets had made better offers. But I'm skeptical. The Warriors won't include Klay Thompson (at least not yet). And the Nuggets? They have the 11th pick. They have Kenneth Faried. But what else? Gallinari? Hickson? I don't think that's a better offer than the Celtics.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/50786

TP sed.

If its the Nets picks and this year that's a steep price. But if we let KO go and get to keep Sully, that would be fine.

But not fine for a certain someone..... 

[Donoghus]

Ford states emphatically that the Celtics have offered 6, 17, Ollie or Sully, two future Brooklyn picks.

No way any other team comes close to matching that offer.

I think it is too much, like most of you do.

Wolves are just trying to increase the offer.  I wish Danny would just withdraw it.

Interesting that its two Brooklyn picks.   I would have reservation there.  Much rather try to move the Clippers pick or one of our own along with 6 & 17.

The reason to offer the Brooklyn picks is probably to hedge against Love/Rondo leaving.

Also Minnesota might value them higher than Boston's if they project Boston's picks to the bottom third of the draft with Love in the eastern conference.

Oh, if I was Minnesota I would definitely be valuing them higher than the Boston picks given the nature of Brooklyn's organization right now.    The Clippers pick would almost be a non consideration if I was Minn. 

Just looking at things from Boston's angle.

[lbgreen33]

Is Saunders just using the Celtics?  Why would Saunders tip his hand?  Seems like he could be trying to get other teams to up their offer and is using the Celtics to do it.

[cman88]

Ford is set to appear on Sportscenter right now tuning in....

any word on what he said?

[Fafnir]

Is Saunders just using the Celtics?  Why would Saunders tip his hand?  Seems like he could be trying to get other teams to up their offer and is using the Celtics to do it.

He's using every team bidding on Love to get every other team to up their bids. Its an Auction not a retail sale.

[Robb]

Is Saunders just using the Celtics?  Why would Saunders tip his hand?  Seems like he could be trying to get other teams to up their offer and is using the Celtics to do it.

There is zero doubt in my mind that that's what Flip is doing. EVERY GM should be saying that Boston is offering a 1st round pick in their deal. Why not? We have so many of them that any trade would be feasible. Why not try to use Boston as leverage to get a future first tossed into the pot.

[j804]

Ford is set to appear on Sportscenter right now tuning in....

any word on what he said?

He just talked the draft no Love talk, interesting he said Parker can fall all the way to 5

[GreenWarrior]

I just love all of these rumors and how "they're all better than boston's offer". when did we become the barometer? hmmm?

stand pat danny! flip sucks at basketball and apparently poker.   

[fairweatherfan]

I gotta say, I'm somewhat reluctantly on board with getting Love - I'm not a big fan of his but at least it'd be a clear step forward and would make the team better to watch - but if it takes 4 firsts and Sully/Oly, I'm going to be irritated. 

That's definitely too much if he won't sign an extension, even if he agrees to pick up his option year, and probably too much for me even if he does extend.  Carmelo and Howard didn't carry that kind of price tag, and I think they both were better at the time than Love is now.

[Sixth Man]

It is poker, we just have to call them and see if they fold to our hand.

Why would a poker player fold his hand after just being called??? 

[cman88]

Is Saunders just using the Celtics?  Why would Saunders tip his hand?  Seems like he could be trying to get other teams to up their offer and is using the Celtics to do it.

There is zero doubt in my mind that that's what Flip is doing. EVERY GM should be saying that Boston is offering a 1st round pick in their deal. Why not? We have so many of them that any trade would be feasible. Why not try to use Boston as leverage to get a future first tossed into the pot.

seems to me hes using all teams against eachother. saying "well other teams have better offer than the celtics" probably trying to get them to offer more.

he'll have to back down come draft night

[Fafnir]

It is poker, we just have to call them and see if they fold to our hand.

Why would a poker player fold his hand after just being called???

It happens when they have nothing.

Technically its never correct to do because the board (if we're talking hold 'em) might be their opponents hand as well.

Personally I recall a time I called my friends bluff with just Jack high and that's all he had too, he was incredulous that I called his bluff with nothing (I think 2 or 3 overs were on the board). He mucked his cards before I flipped my hand over, but we play cards speak so it didn't matter as we still could separate out his cards easily to show his hand was also a jack high.

[Sixth Man]

Would Glen Taylor even consider any Celts deal after the disastrous Garnett trade?  I have to wonder about that. 

[Fafnir]

Would Glen Taylor even consider any Celts deal after the disastrous Garnett trade?  I have to wonder about that.

I think he will consider it, though it sounds like he's not happy about the possibility.

Funny thing is that Glenn Taylor is the one who demanded KG be traded as he wasn't willing to extend KG another mega-contract for a lottery team.