Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love

[Larry for 3]

Danny is not going to give up that many assets for a potential 1 year rental.

I don't think he's saying that he'll give up ALL of that (hope not). I think he's just using it as an example of what all Danny can offer.

Well if he cant offer most if not all it doesnt end up becoming the best offer.

The prospects at 6 and 17 I think have done enough at the workouts to entice ainge to not trade them. If this was the 2012 or 2013 draft, ainge likely does this trade without a thought

BS plus rondo and love is a bad mix.  BS is better suited for a full rebuild moving fwd imo

How would say that? Brad Stevens is a bright young coach, plus ownership doesn't want to be in the lottery any more, so you can put the cancel on the 5 year plan which could turn into the 10 year plan if those picks bust out. Love is a top 12 player now.

[chambers]

Danny is not going to give up that many assets for a potential 1 year rental.

I don't think he's saying that he'll give up ALL of that (hope not). I think he's just using it as an example of what all Danny can offer.

Well if he cant offer most if not all it doesnt end up becoming the best offer.

The prospects at 6 and 17 I think have done enough at the workouts to entice ainge to not trade them. If this was the 2012 or 2013 draft, ainge likely does this trade without a thought

BS plus rondo and love is a bad mix.  BS is better suited for a full rebuild moving fwd imo

Stevens and rondo and love are a bad mix? Elite passing pg with stretch elite scoring and rebounding PF with motion offense man Brad Stevens. A bad mix?
And you think the 6th pick is worth enough to not want to trade for Love now?

You honestly don't think Ainge would trade 6+17+Sully for Love?
Triboy my friend, your view of the Celtics world never ceases to make me smile. You get me almost every time I log on to good ol' Celticsblog.

Go on, pull the reel back in...cast another lure....you didn't catch me this time. Hehe.

[BleedGreen1989]

I too think the C's "could" offer the best package given their assets, but how far is Danny willing to go?


Either way, I just want this over by draft. I don't want this whole Love situation lingering into July and August.

[RJ87]

BS plus rondo and love is a bad mix. 

 

A high BBIQ coach, plus two high BBIQ players is a bad mix?

If you could build a prototypical 4 to play with Rondo, you'd probably get something relatively close to Love. His ability to shoot and defensive rebound to start the fastbreak is an ideal fit next to Rondo. A Rondo/Love pick & pop game would be pretty hard to guard. Do you know how many coaches would love to have 2 all-star players their 2nd year coaching? At Butler, Stevens made it to the NCAA Finals, he's use to winning even with an underdog team. I'm sure he doesn't mind babysitting the kiddies, but all coaches want to win sooner rather than later.

[BleedGreen1989]

Triboy has been pretty vocal about his opinion of our young guys and lottery picks this year. He clearly thinks very highly of them.

While I don't exactly agree, it's certainly his right to hold that opinion.

I just hope Flip feels the same way.

[wahz]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

[cman88]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

question is, do you bet your future on "luck" or say "we already have an all-star, lets grab another one"

Gordon is just as likely to be a bust as he is to develop into an all-star. and how long do you want to wait for him to develop into an all-star? and get the pieces in the team to compete. as Rondo likely would leave without another allstar like Love

[Evantime34]

I think somehow Minnesota messes this up. I believe they won't pull the trigger on an offer during the draft and will instead wait until free agency or even the trade deadline to deal him at which point the offer will be much less.

I personally would prefer keeping the 17th pick in the deal and replacing it with another future pick. I hope we aren't giving up four firsts unless on of them is Philly's "first".

[wahz]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

question is, do you bet your future on "luck" or say "we already have an all-star, lets grab another one"

Gordon is just as likely to be a bust as he is to develop into an all-star. and how long do you want to wait for him to develop into an all-star? and get the pieces in the team to compete. as Rondo likely would leave without another allstar like Love

I agree. That's why I said I would still do it. But then what? We need to extend Love and Rondo, unless you want to trade Rajon. There is no guy I would want more at the rim and next to Love than Noah.

[cman88]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

question is, do you bet your future on "luck" or say "we already have an all-star, lets grab another one"

Gordon is just as likely to be a bust as he is to develop into an all-star. and how long do you want to wait for him to develop into an all-star? and get the pieces in the team to compete. as Rondo likely would leave without another allstar like Love

I agree. That's why I said I would still do it. But then what? We need to extend Love and Rondo, unless you want to trade Rajon. There is no guy I would want more at the rim and next to Love than Noah.

well, Obviously other shoes need to fall and other moves need to be made to make the C's a leigit contender in the East...but there is no one I trust more to do that than Danny Ainge.

[Clench123]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

Make a strong move for Gortat (who has expressed his love for the Celtics and wants to play here), and we'd be set.  For true fireworks, we have to be able to get Melo with all of these

[fairweatherfan]

According to a rival GM, the Minnesota Timberwolves are ready to trade Kevin Love by draft night.

PBT

Yeah, they more or less have to, at least on a handshake level, to actually be able to decide what rookies they'll be bringing in next year.  I expect the rumors will heat up over the next several days as we get closer to draft day.

[Londongreen]

Love was the no.1 option on a team which lacked offence, has a injury history and never been to the play offs. And from reports, his team hates how he points fingers. He like PG, the only option on a offensively bad team.

Plus he could Dwight and bolt after 1 year, you never give up to much for that. If anything, give up #6, #17, another #1 round pick, and some salary for a sign and trade to get Melo if he's willing. Then and only then, if he rejects, you go for love.

Melo has been to the play offs, all but this year and has won a scoring title. He also can play defence, when he can be bothered. Love can't play defense, and that is important in the post season.

Unless, he agrees to a extension, or new contract, then don't bother. You need a center for a guy like love on your team. Melo can play SF/PF and Defence, while scoring.


If Lebron leaves, then only he is above Melo as the best player to trade for.

Watch Love come, and this team be medicore.

[kozlodoev]

So...

Sullinger, Bogans, Bass (or Faverani + Anthony) and the 6th (and perhaps the future first from the Clips?) for Love
17th and the Pierce TE for Asik

Resign some bodies, use the MLE... where do I sign up?

[wahz]

A few things. Does everyone think its true that no one else can or would choose to beat an offer of #6, #17 and Sullinger?  Then is that too much to offer? I could certainly imagine that it doesn't work out well as Gordon becomes a stud and Sullinger becomes better and stays healthy. Still, I would do it. But then where are the Celtics at? We still need a center. You have to worry about Rondo's ball movement and shooting. Green is inconsistent. I like Olynk to play minutes at 3 positions but we need rim defenders. I don't think Asik is good enough.

Can we get Noah? Any other ideas?

Make a strong move for Gortat (who has expressed his love for the Celtics and wants to play here), and we'd be set.  For true fireworks, we have to be able to get Melo with all of these

I like Gortat. Yeah we then need a wing who is better than Green. I would keep Bradley too.