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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2014, 12:51:11 PM »

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www.sportando.com/m/en/usa/nba/123143/celtics-are-preparing-a-big-offer-for-kevin-love.html
Sportando is citing Ford. In principle, they don't really have their own sources, and rank rather low on my totem pole of reliable sports pundits.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2014, 12:57:20 PM »

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I like Gortat. Yeah we then need a wing who is better than Green. I would keep Bradley too.

Could that wing by Hayward?   Everyone knows Stevens loves him.

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2014, 01:03:00 PM »

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I like Gortat. Yeah we then need a wing who is better than Green. I would keep Bradley too.

Could that wing by Hayward?   Everyone knows Stevens loves him.
Hayward is not better than Green. If anything, he's comparable.

I'm also not sure why you need to replace Green if he's going to be your third best player. He's fine.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2014, 01:03:02 PM »

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Can a Gortat + Love duo really play any defense?  They would be amazing on offense though

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014, 01:14:48 PM »

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I like Gortat. Yeah we then need a wing who is better than Green. I would keep Bradley too.

Could that wing by Hayward?   Everyone knows Stevens loves him.
Hayward is not better than Green. If anything, he's comparable.

I'm also not sure why you need to replace Green if he's going to be your third best player. He's fine.

I agree, I'd be inclined to keep Jeff. But you have to get a starting caliber 2 guard and move Avery to the bench.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2014, 01:18:45 PM »

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I like Gortat. Yeah we then need a wing who is better than Green. I would keep Bradley too.

Could that wing by Hayward?   Everyone knows Stevens loves him.
Hayward is not better than Green. If anything, he's comparable.

I'm also not sure why you need to replace Green if he's going to be your third best player. He's fine.

Yay, finally some realistic Jeff Green praise. TP.

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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2014, 01:20:47 PM »

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Can a Gortat + Love duo really play any defense?  They would be amazing on offense though
I'd hate the Love + Gortat combination for the same reason I hated Love + Pekovic in Minnesota. Perhaps we can convince the Rockets to trade us Asik for a pick and a TE instead? :P

As for the starting caliber SG, Bradley one-dimensional and certainly not great, but if you've got Love, Rondo, and Green, perhaps you can get away with this.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2014, 01:23:05 PM »

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A T-Wolves board had this poll:

29% Bulls - Mirotic or T.Gibson + Boozer + Butler + 16th + 19th FOR Love + Martin + Budinge

52% Celtics - 6# + 17# + BKN 2016 + Sullinger + A.Bradley (S&T) (4 Years - 26-28 M$ Maybe ?) + B.Bass + J.Anthony FOR Love + K.Martin

20% Other teams deals


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T-Wolves fans apparently see it as a 2-team race since they didn't bother to break out the possible GSW, PHX, or HOU deals. GSW will likely have tried to pitch something to Minn.  I suspect HOU is focused on Melo from what I've read.  Have no idea what PHX may be thinking and whether they'd trade Bledsoe (who is a RFA, maybe looking for the max, and has durability issues) and whether Minnesota would want to pay him the max.

FWIW, I said their Cs deal wasn't one we'd be crazy about (mostly because swapping AB for Martin doesn't appeal to me), but it's not a crazy deal either.  Interestingly, they really don't like any deal with GSW that involves David Lee and view his contract as a bad one.  GSW has to move Lee in any Love deal (evern if it's to a 3rd team) and I get the sense that the perception of Lee is negative for the money he makes (similar to Love's current contract) from reading various forums and pundits.

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2014, 01:27:38 PM »

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So taking up Kevin Martin's 3-year obligation AND giving up three first rounders? Yeah, I don't think so (as in, yes, this is pretty crazy). If that's the deal, I'll take my chances with Love on the open market next season.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2014, 01:29:58 PM »

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Hey what if we trade away the 6#, 17#,sully,(s&T) Bradley,Bass and wallace FOR 13# pick,Love and martin.
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Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2014, 01:36:59 PM »

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So taking up Kevin Martin's 3-year obligation AND giving up three first rounders? Yeah, I don't think so (as in, yes, this is pretty crazy). If that's the deal, I'll take my chances with Love on the open market next season.

Yeah, I'd take on that contract if we dropped a pick (probably the #17), and swapped Brooklyn 2016 for LAC 2015.  Otherwise it's a bit much, especially since there don't seem to be many other plausible offers out there.

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2014, 01:37:40 PM »

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A T-Wolves board had this poll:

29% Bulls - Mirotic or T.Gibson + Boozer + Butler + 16th + 19th FOR Love + Martin + Budinge

52% Celtics - 6# + 17# + BKN 2016 + Sullinger + A.Bradley (S&T) (4 Years - 26-28 M$ Maybe ?) + B.Bass + J.Anthony FOR Love + K.Martin

20% Other teams deals


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T-Wolves fans apparently see it as a 2-team race since they didn't bother to break out the possible GSW, PHX, or HOU deals. GSW will likely have tried to pitch something to Minn.  I suspect HOU is focused on Melo from what I've read.  Have no idea what PHX may be thinking and whether they'd trade Bledsoe (who is a RFA, maybe looking for the max, and has durability issues) and whether Minnesota would want to pay him the max.

FWIW, I said their Cs deal wasn't one we'd be crazy about (mostly because swapping AB for Martin doesn't appeal to me), but it's not a crazy deal either.  Interestingly, they really don't like any deal with GSW that involves David Lee and view his contract as a bad one.  GSW has to move Lee in any Love deal (evern if it's to a 3rd team) and I get the sense that the perception of Lee is negative for the money he makes (similar to Love's current contract) from reading various forums and pundits.

I would do this deal. Martin is a productive sg who would fit very well next to Rondo. We would still have some assets left to trade for Asik or Gortat and put a legit contending quality starting 5 on the floor. I also can't rationalize sacrificing a potential top twenty player to keep Bradley, who is a third guard at best on a good team.

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2014, 01:38:27 PM »

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A T-Wolves board had this poll:

29% Bulls - Mirotic or T.Gibson + Boozer + Butler + 16th + 19th FOR Love + Martin + Budinge

52% Celtics - 6# + 17# + BKN 2016 + Sullinger + A.Bradley (S&T) (4 Years - 26-28 M$ Maybe ?) + B.Bass + J.Anthony FOR Love + K.Martin

20% Other teams deals


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T-Wolves fans apparently see it as a 2-team race since they didn't bother to break out the possible GSW, PHX, or HOU deals. GSW will likely have tried to pitch something to Minn.  I suspect HOU is focused on Melo from what I've read.  Have no idea what PHX may be thinking and whether they'd trade Bledsoe (who is a RFA, maybe looking for the max, and has durability issues) and whether Minnesota would want to pay him the max.

FWIW, I said their Cs deal wasn't one we'd be crazy about (mostly because swapping AB for Martin doesn't appeal to me), but it's not a crazy deal either.  Interestingly, they really don't like any deal with GSW that involves David Lee and view his contract as a bad one.  GSW has to move Lee in any Love deal (evern if it's to a 3rd team) and I get the sense that the perception of Lee is negative for the money he makes (similar to Love's current contract) from reading various forums and pundits.
I wonder what would happen to their poll if the Chi trade said Mirotic AND Gibson, which is closer to what has been reported.

Re: Chad Ford: C's may have the best offer for Love
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2014, 01:38:29 PM »

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Rather have Asik over Gortat if what we are giving up is similar package. Asik is the better defender and rebounder, 2 years younger, and on an expiring contract. He could also possibly be used in a s+t after next season to land Marc Gasol if he wants out of Memphis.