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Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2014, 11:59:18 PM »

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Didn't Rose sort of give Lebron the cold shoulder during the Decision?  Didn't want him to join the Bulls.  I think he was cool with Wade, but not LBJ, didn't want to share the rock.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2014, 12:05:13 AM »

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Agreed. Why would Lebron leave the Heat only to go to a team that isn't in a position to compete for a title.

He likes Doc too.  Who wouldn't after Spoelstra?
I'd love Spoelstra after Mike Brown.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2014, 08:22:35 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2014, 08:27:01 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?


Not if Lin and Asik are going to Miami, unless Wade, Melo, and Bron take a lot less.  The new big 3 would have about $40 mil to split amongst the three of them if there is no sign-and-trade with NY to bring over Melo, assuming their roster is the new 3, Asik, Lin, Cole, their 1st this year, and minimum salaries, and they've renounced everyone else.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2014, 08:43:22 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Not if Lin and Asik are going to Miami, unless Wade, Melo, and Bron take a lot less.  The new big 3 would have about $40 mil to split amongst the three of them if there is no sign-and-trade with NY to bring over Melo, assuming their roster is the new 3, Asik, Lin, Cole, their 1st this year, and minimum salaries, and they've renounced everyone else.

Okay...so another words, highly unlikely?

Because the more I think about it, I think something like that could end up happening.

Lebron and Wade stay in Miami, bring Melo in, Bosh goes to another contending team (Houston, Dallas, maybe the Lakers.)

The Heat then use their MLE on a center

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2014, 08:57:08 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?


Not if Lin and Asik are going to Miami, unless Wade, Melo, and Bron take a lot less.  The new big 3 would have about $40 mil to split amongst the three of them if there is no sign-and-trade with NY to bring over Melo, assuming their roster is the new 3, Asik, Lin, Cole, their 1st this year, and minimum salaries, and they've renounced everyone else.


Okay...so another words, highly unlikely?

Because the more I think about it, I think something like that could end up happening.

Lebron and Wade stay in Miami, bring Melo in, Bosh goes to another contending team (Houston, Dallas, maybe the Lakers.)

The Heat then use their MLE on a center

Bosh would have to go somewhere where he'd just sign via cap room.  The Heat simply don't have the cap space for Wade, Melo, and LeBron unless the cuts are very significant.  I forgot that Haslem has a $4.6 million player option.  Apparently he's undecided on what to do, but if Joel Anthony is going to take $3.8 million to stay in Boston, I'd bet Haslem stays in Miami.  If they're letting Bosh walk (so not a sign-and-trade), then Miami would have about $17 million each for their new Big 3, which is more reasonable than the $13 million they'd have if they took back salary in a Bosh sign-and-trade.

Bosh could still go to Houston.  It would just take a third team to absorb Asik and Lin.  This is why the thought of Boston taking on both for free, or even being compensated, make sense, because a three-way trade makes sense for most of Houston's free agent aspirations.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2014, 09:06:58 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?


Not if Lin and Asik are going to Miami, unless Wade, Melo, and Bron take a lot less.  The new big 3 would have about $40 mil to split amongst the three of them if there is no sign-and-trade with NY to bring over Melo, assuming their roster is the new 3, Asik, Lin, Cole, their 1st this year, and minimum salaries, and they've renounced everyone else.


Okay...so another words, highly unlikely?

Because the more I think about it, I think something like that could end up happening.

Lebron and Wade stay in Miami, bring Melo in, Bosh goes to another contending team (Houston, Dallas, maybe the Lakers.)

The Heat then use their MLE on a center

Bosh would have to go somewhere where he'd just sign via cap room.  The Heat simply don't have the cap space for Wade, Melo, and LeBron unless the cuts are very significant.  I forgot that Haslem has a $4.6 million player option.  Apparently he's undecided on what to do, but if Joel Anthony is going to take $3.8 million to stay in Boston, I'd bet Haslem stays in Miami.  If they're letting Bosh walk (so not a sign-and-trade), then Miami would have about $17 million each for their new Big 3, which is more reasonable than the $13 million they'd have if they took back salary in a Bosh sign-and-trade.

Bosh could still go to Houston.  It would just take a third team to absorb Asik and Lin.  This is why the thought of Boston taking on both for free, or even being compensated, make sense, because a three-way trade makes sense for most of Houston's free agent aspirations.

Ok, thanks for clarifying.

I could see that happening, then.

Melo, Lebron and Wade in Miami. Bosh goes his own way to a team that can sign him with the cap space, like the Mavs. He's from Texas too, isn't he?

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2014, 09:22:15 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Whether the numbers could be made to work or not, I don't know - but Houston's primary motivation in dumping Asik and Lin is to clear out space to take a run at Melo themselves.  Not sure whether they'd be looking to dump them just to acquire Bosh. 

And, I don't see a Bosh/Dirk combination working for the Mavs.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2014, 09:50:58 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Whether the numbers could be made to work or not, I don't know - but Houston's primary motivation in dumping Asik and Lin is to clear out space to take a run at Melo themselves.  Not sure whether they'd be looking to dump them just to acquire Bosh. 

And, I don't see a Bosh/Dirk combination working for the Mavs.
I could see a deal like that between Houston and Miami.  Houston would prefer Melo but definitely wants another top player rather than Asik and Lin.  Bosh would fit that need.  Asik and Lin would definitely fit Miami's needs at PG and C.  A legit C on Miami would allow them to play Melo at PF with Bron staying at SF.  not quite sure how Lin and Asik's contracts would impact the ability to sign Melo though -- Bron and Wade would have to take steep pay cuts I would believe.

Also, putting Bosh next to Howard would make for a very tough front court for Houston.  Add Harden's shooting and that's a top team in the West if they keep Parsons and have Jones and Beverly improve next year.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2014, 10:06:54 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Whether the numbers could be made to work or not, I don't know - but Houston's primary motivation in dumping Asik and Lin is to clear out space to take a run at Melo themselves.  Not sure whether they'd be looking to dump them just to acquire Bosh. 

And, I don't see a Bosh/Dirk combination working for the Mavs.
I could see a deal like that between Houston and Miami.  Houston would prefer Melo but definitely wants another top player rather than Asik and Lin.  Bosh would fit that need.  Asik and Lin would definitely fit Miami's needs at PG and C.  A legit C on Miami would allow them to play Melo at PF with Bron staying at SF.  not quite sure how Lin and Asik's contracts would impact the ability to sign Melo though -- Bron and Wade would have to take steep pay cuts I would believe.

Also, putting Bosh next to Howard would make for a very tough front court for Houston.  Add Harden's shooting and that's a top team in the West if they keep Parsons and have Jones and Beverly improve next year.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

This would actually work out REALLY well for both Miami and Houston. As mentioned, the only issue I could see is how the money would work or if it would even work at all.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2014, 10:07:33 AM »

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Carmelo isn't going to the bulls

lebron isnt going to the bulls.

rose will never be healthy. The bulls will never be legit contenders.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2014, 10:09:03 AM »

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Carmelo isn't going to the bulls

lebron isnt going to the bulls.

rose will never be healthy. The bulls will never be legit contenders.

Think I agree with you on this one!

Unless the Bulls can manage to unload Rose, they won't get very far.

One less team to worry about ;)

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2014, 10:49:41 AM »

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The bulls say no.

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2014, 10:55:25 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Whether the numbers could be made to work or not, I don't know - but Houston's primary motivation in dumping Asik and Lin is to clear out space to take a run at Melo themselves.  Not sure whether they'd be looking to dump them just to acquire Bosh. 

And, I don't see a Bosh/Dirk combination working for the Mavs.
I could see a deal like that between Houston and Miami.  Houston would prefer Melo but definitely wants another top player rather than Asik and Lin.  Bosh would fit that need.  Asik and Lin would definitely fit Miami's needs at PG and C.  A legit C on Miami would allow them to play Melo at PF with Bron staying at SF.  not quite sure how Lin and Asik's contracts would impact the ability to sign Melo though -- Bron and Wade would have to take steep pay cuts I would believe.

Also, putting Bosh next to Howard would make for a very tough front court for Houston.  Add Harden's shooting and that's a top team in the West if they keep Parsons and have Jones and Beverly improve next year.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

This would actually work out REALLY well for both Miami and Houston. As mentioned, the only issue I could see is how the money would work or if it would even work at all.

They wouldn't  be dumping them "just to get Bosh"... They would be trading them to acquire Bosh which would be an incredible move for them. I think a Howard/Bosh/Harden trio is a much better system fit then Melo/Howard/Harden would be.

Also give Miami a legit starting  5 of Lin/Wade/Melo/James/Asik

Re: Idea: Lebron to the Bulls
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2014, 11:37:32 AM »

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This could also be another scenario:

Wade and Bron opt out. Resign with Miami and take a bit less so Melo joins them.

Bosh opts out and agrees to be signed and traded to Houston for Asik and Lin.

Possible?

Whether the numbers could be made to work or not, I don't know - but Houston's primary motivation in dumping Asik and Lin is to clear out space to take a run at Melo themselves.  Not sure whether they'd be looking to dump them just to acquire Bosh. 

And, I don't see a Bosh/Dirk combination working for the Mavs.
I could see a deal like that between Houston and Miami.  Houston would prefer Melo but definitely wants another top player rather than Asik and Lin.  Bosh would fit that need.  Asik and Lin would definitely fit Miami's needs at PG and C.  A legit C on Miami would allow them to play Melo at PF with Bron staying at SF.  not quite sure how Lin and Asik's contracts would impact the ability to sign Melo though -- Bron and Wade would have to take steep pay cuts I would believe.

Also, putting Bosh next to Howard would make for a very tough front court for Houston.  Add Harden's shooting and that's a top team in the West if they keep Parsons and have Jones and Beverly improve next year.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

This would actually work out REALLY well for both Miami and Houston. As mentioned, the only issue I could see is how the money would work or if it would even work at all.

They wouldn't  be dumping them "just to get Bosh"... They would be trading them to acquire Bosh which would be an incredible move for them. I think a Howard/Bosh/Harden trio is a much better system fit then Melo/Howard/Harden would be.

Also give Miami a legit starting  5 of Lin/Wade/Melo/James/Asik

Yup. That's a huge win-win for both teams.