Aaron Gordon

[kozlodoev]

He shot 35% from 3, and by all reports he hit 70-75% of his free throws in practice even before he changed his shooting form this summer, to make his free throw stroke the same as his regular shooting stroke.

So did Dwight Howard. It is, in fact, quite horrible. And doesn't really guarantee anything with respect to in-game FT shooting.

[KGs Knee]

I see I'm not the only one aware of how misrepresented Gordon's numbers were above.

Yeah, lipstick on a pig sounds about right.

[KGs Knee]

He shot 35% from 3, and by all reports he hit 70-75% of his free throws in practice even before he changed his shooting form this summer, to make his free throw stroke the same as his regular shooting stroke.

So did Dwight Howard. It is, in fact, quite horrible. And doesn't really guarantee anything with respect to in-game FT shooting.

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Just letting you know

[celticmania]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

[NorthernLightning]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

[D.o.s.]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

Wait, so is he scoring from hustle plays or the 3 point shot you keep bringing up?

I'm getting confused.

[JChu1]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

Wait, so is he scoring from hustle plays or the 3 point shot you keep bringing up?

I'm getting confused.

He's clearly gonna take 3's, inevitably miss, and get the putback.

Look, Aaron Gordon is what he is. A great hustle player and defender but can't do anything on the offensive side. As has been said oh so many times on this site, the Celtics can't score if the fate of the world depended on it and Aaron Gordon isn't gonna change that.

[Evantime34]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

Wait, so is he scoring from hustle plays or the 3 point shot you keep bringing up?

I'm getting confused.

He's clearly gonna take 3's, inevitably miss, and get the putback.

Look, Aaron Gordon is what he is. A great hustle player and defender but can't do anything on the offensive side. As has been said oh so many times on this site, the Celtics can't score if the fate of the world depended on it and Aaron Gordon isn't gonna change that.

He's what he is right now but that doesn't mean he won't get better. He is one of the best athletes and the youngest player in the draft, I expect him to improve a lot.

[NorthernLightning]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

Wait, so is he scoring from hustle plays or the 3 point shot you keep bringing up?

I'm getting confused.

You've been confused on this subject for some time, it would appear. You're seemingly confused by the idea that an 18 year old player isn't a finished product. It blows your mind, because it requires abstract thought.

[NorthernLightning]

It's almost not worth debating with people who can't picture an 18 year old getting better or polishing their skills. How do you convince them, if it hasn't happened yet and you can't prove it? If somebody doesn't like an 18 year old prospect, they will come up with any reason not to like them, and convince themselves the 18 year old has peaked.

 

[JChu1]

Gordon has no offensive game. I think we need scorers

With all the stretch bigs we have, we need somebody who can score around the rim. Gordon is big for a SF, and will score many points inside against them, in addition to fast breaks and lobs from Rondo, and put backs.

Wait, so is he scoring from hustle plays or the 3 point shot you keep bringing up?

I'm getting confused.

He's clearly gonna take 3's, inevitably miss, and get the putback.

Look, Aaron Gordon is what he is. A great hustle player and defender but can't do anything on the offensive side. As has been said oh so many times on this site, the Celtics can't score if the fate of the world depended on it and Aaron Gordon isn't gonna change that.

He's what he is right now but that doesn't mean he won't get better. He is one of the best athletes and the youngest player in the draft, I expect him to improve a lot.

Oh I agree with you on his high ceiling and ability to work himself into a new system as a young prospect/project. And if he gets drafted by the Celtics, I'll be sure to get myself an early Christmas present. However, there are flaws in his game that definitely deserve scrutiny - although, the same could be said for every player we're considering at the 6th pick. While the old adage is that you can't teach hustle, you also have a hard time teaching shooting ability.

[KGs Knee]

It's almost not worth debating with people who can't picture an 18 year old getting better or polishing their skills. How do you convince them, if it hasn't happened yet and you can't prove it? If somebody doesn't like an 18 year old prospect, they will come up with any reason not to like them, and convince themselves the 18 year old has peaked.

 

But none of the other players in this draft will get better?  Only Gordon?

[Donoghus]

It's almost not worth debating with people who can't picture an 18 year old getting better or polishing their skills. How do you convince them, if it hasn't happened yet and you can't prove it? If somebody doesn't like an 18 year old prospect, they will come up with any reason not to like them, and convince themselves the 18 year old has peaked.

It's not a matter of people being unable to picture your binky getting better or polishing his skills. 

My biggest concern is how much will he develop offensively?  Because right now, he leaves a ton to be desired on that end of the floor.

Of course, an 18 year will develop.  Both physically & from a basketball standpoint.  My question is this; Right now, there is a huge gap offensively from where he stands now and many people think he needs to be to succeed on that end of the floor at the NBA level.

I don't think people are questioning the defensive side of the ball or his athleticism.  It's more of where this kid's ceiling is.  Because if he doesn't develop even a servicable offensive game, then that's gonna be a major problem with a bunch of people that see a major offensive deficiency in the way this current Celtics team is made up.   I think a lot of the reluctance of drafting the kid with #6 is because of his skillset versus what the Celtics need. 

[NorthernLightning]

Not every great or good scorer is a great jump shooter or even free throw shooter. Think about Josh Smith and the hard-on most here had for acquiring him by trade or free agency. They didn't want Smith because of his jump shot.

[kozlodoev]

Not every great or good scorer is a great jump shooter or even free throw shooter. Think about Josh Smith and the hard-on most here had for acquiring him by trade or free agency. They didn't want Smith because of his jump shot.

Josh Smith is definitely not a "great scorer". He's probably not even a good scorer. I don't think that even people who advocated getting him though he was one.

Josh Smith is, and has always been, someone you keep on the floor because of his intensity, defense, and mismatch potential -- and hope that he wouldn't shoot too much. Of course, the latter has been a futile hope for pretty much any team he's played on.