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Re: would you prefer tanking again ?
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2014, 09:39:48 AM »

Offline GreenWarrior

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we didn't tank this yr., we just weren't very good and had a lot of change over from one era to the next. if we were tanking rondo would have been moved.

I have no problem with going young and building through the draft, it does have it's benefits. but there's a time to do that and a time not to. this yr. I don't think there is a reason to as ainge has stated "there are no cornerstone guys in this draft". I think a lot of solid players will come out of this draft that will be around for a long time - a bunch of shawn marion's and jerry Stackhouse level players. but there is no KG, Duncan, Durant, or Lebron in this draft. so there is no reason to have wanted to "tank" this yr.

plus we have a legitimate shot at trading for a proven player in Love that we can add to what we already have and plenty of assets to add more quality players to go with them. it's a good season to have assets than players that could potentially be good.

if you can make your team better now? you do it! if you're waiting on potential? you could always be waiting. there's no reason to not want to improve your team now.

so would I want to tank next yr.? is there a Jordan, Durant, Lebron or Duncan going to be available? I think we would have heard if there was by now.

Re: would you prefer tanking again ?
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2014, 11:46:23 AM »

Offline vinnie

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Nope. But complete this rebuild properly.  Trade rondo.

I want smart, gordon and hairston

Now there's a dynasty in the making.   :o

Re: would you prefer tanking again ?
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2014, 11:50:41 AM »

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The point is that its easier to fill out a roster with talent when you've got star players you've drafted, since they'll be on team friendly deals right now. It's easier to fill in the gaps when you go the Spurs route than you do the Heat route.

So my larger point is that it might foolish to trade away a large portion of our assets in order to be competitive again with the players that are available in trade and FA right now, which is what a lot of the win now people seem to be advocating.

I also think it's silly to completely bottom out -- and I disagree that we bottomed out last year, since we kept Rondo, who can clearly be the starting point guard on a team that goes all the way.

Further complicated by the fact that no one likes to root for losses, but you can only watch 'developing' teams for so long before the enthusiasm starts to wane.

Sure, it might end up being foolish to trade away a bunch of assets for, say, Kevin Love right now.  On the other hand, it might end up working out brilliantly if Danny were to go for it.

The reality that it might not work out is going to exist no matter what path our GM takes.  At some point, some gambles are probably going to have to be taken.

Well now you've hit on why I could never be a general manager -- I'm a tentative gambler.
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Re: would you prefer tanking again ?
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2014, 11:53:54 AM »

Offline vinnie

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some of you guys are really good fans. When the team stinks you put a paper bag over your head

When the team does well you come out cheering like your the #1 fans. 

The team right now is not going to win a championship tomorrow. It needs time and trust to grow and succeed.  Ainge does not need to make quick moves and screw up the team like the Knicks are screwed up now.

You keep mentioning Ainge making moves that will make us the Knicks. What in his history has shown that he would do that? There is no evidence. It is just you and a few others hating on Kevin Love and believing that Olynyk and Sully are going to take the C's to the promised land. In my opinion, Olynyk is a role player and Sully potentially could be an occasional all star if he commits himself to staying in condition. They and a bunch of other young players aren't going to lead the Celtics anywhere.

Re: would you prefer tanking again ?
« Reply #79 on: June 11, 2014, 12:14:52 PM »

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some of you guys are really good fans. When the team stinks you put a paper bag over your head

When the team does well you come out cheering like your the #1 fans. 

The team right now is not going to win a championship tomorrow. It needs time and trust to grow and succeed.  Ainge does not need to make quick moves and screw up the team like the Knicks are screwed up now.

You keep mentioning Ainge making moves that will make us the Knicks. What in his history has shown that he would do that? There is no evidence. It is just you and a few others hating on Kevin Love and believing that Olynyk and Sully are going to take the C's to the promised land. In my opinion, Olynyk is a role player and Sully potentially could be an occasional all star if he commits himself to staying in condition. They and a bunch of other young players aren't going to lead the Celtics anywhere.

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