Dieng, Muhammad and 13th pick for Rondo trade idea: 2015-2016 playoff bound

[Tr1boy]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

[hpantazo]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

If we had gotten a top 3 pick this year, then I believe Ainge would have considered moving Rondo for an additional lottery pick and built around Embiid/Wiggins/Parker plus Smart/Gordon/Vonleh/Saric. It didn't happen, we didn't get a top 3 talent, so it makes sense to move our assets to get a superstar some other way. Love is a superstar, like him or not. He didn't do anything bad to Minnesota. He did them a favor of informing them of his intentions in time for them to get the best return for him in a trade instead of leaving them high and dry next summer.

If Ainge believes that the players after the 3rd of 4th pick this year are not worth building around, then I trust him. He has more than earned my trust as a talent evaluator.

[Tr1boy]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

If we had gotten a top 3 pick this year, then I believe Ainge would have considered moving Rondo for an additional lottery pick and built around Embiid/Wiggins/Parker plus Smart/Gordon/Vonleh/Saric. It didn't happen, we didn't get a top 3 talent, so it makes sense to move our assets to get a superstar some other way. Love is a superstar, like him or not. He didn't do anything bad to Minnesota. He did them a favor of informing them of his intentions in time for them to get the best return for him in a trade instead of leaving them high and dry next summer.

If Ainge believes that the players after the 3rd of 4th pick this year are not worth building around, then I trust him. He has more than earned my trust as a talent evaluator.

outside of embiid what makes you think Parker or Wiggins are head above shoulders better than guys like Randle, Smart or Gordon? Or even Exum

Gordon took his team to the elite 8, did Parker or Wiggins do that for their team?   Randle went to the finals

I like Wiggins but  he overhyped right now

[hpantazo]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

If we had gotten a top 3 pick this year, then I believe Ainge would have considered moving Rondo for an additional lottery pick and built around Embiid/Wiggins/Parker plus Smart/Gordon/Vonleh/Saric. It didn't happen, we didn't get a top 3 talent, so it makes sense to move our assets to get a superstar some other way. Love is a superstar, like him or not. He didn't do anything bad to Minnesota. He did them a favor of informing them of his intentions in time for them to get the best return for him in a trade instead of leaving them high and dry next summer.

If Ainge believes that the players after the 3rd of 4th pick this year are not worth building around, then I trust him. He has more than earned my trust as a talent evaluator.

outside of embiid what makes you think Parker or Wiggins are head above shoulders better than guys like Randle, Smart or Gordon? Or even Exum

Gordon took his team to the elite 8, did Parker or Wiggins do that for their team?   Randle went to the finals

I like Wiggins but  he overhyped right now

A mountain of expert opinions and Danny Ainge's judgement are what make me think that Parker and Wiggins are much better than Randle, Smart, Gordon, or Exum. Btw, we have no shot at Exum with the 6th pick.

Building around Randle, a power forward who mirrors Sullinger's skills, or Gordon, an athletic big who can't shoot, projected to be similar to Shawn Marion, or Smart, a player projected to be similar to Tyreke Evans at best, while Rondo walks next summer, is going to result in a long term lottery bound team.

[Tr1boy]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

If we had gotten a top 3 pick this year, then I believe Ainge would have considered moving Rondo for an additional lottery pick and built around Embiid/Wiggins/Parker plus Smart/Gordon/Vonleh/Saric. It didn't happen, we didn't get a top 3 talent, so it makes sense to move our assets to get a superstar some other way. Love is a superstar, like him or not. He didn't do anything bad to Minnesota. He did them a favor of informing them of his intentions in time for them to get the best return for him in a trade instead of leaving them high and dry next summer.

If Ainge believes that the players after the 3rd of 4th pick this year are not worth building around, then I trust him. He has more than earned my trust as a talent evaluator.

outside of embiid what makes you think Parker or Wiggins are head above shoulders better than guys like Randle, Smart or Gordon? Or even Exum

Gordon took his team to the elite 8, did Parker or Wiggins do that for their team?   Randle went to the finals

I like Wiggins but  he overhyped right now

A mountain of expert opinions and Danny Ainge's judgement are what make me think that Parker and Wiggins are much better than Randle, Smart, Gordon, or Exum. Btw, we have no shot at Exum with the 6th pick.

Building around Randle, a power forward who mirrors Sullinger's skills, or Gordon, an athletic big who can't shoot, projected to be similar to Shawn Marion, or Smart, a player projected to be similar to Tyreke Evans at best, while Rondo walks next summer, is going to result in a long term lottery bound team.

I would love to add an athletic Sullinger, younger Shawn Marion or a healthy Tyreke Evans on our team right about now

Parker plays defense like Love, Wiggins can't dribble nor finish with his left hand and is mentally weak out of the top 7 prospects.   

This is strong draft from 1-7 1-8.  you can't say Wiggins is going to be a likely superstar while Smart won't really do much in the league. 

[hpantazo]

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

If we had gotten a top 3 pick this year, then I believe Ainge would have considered moving Rondo for an additional lottery pick and built around Embiid/Wiggins/Parker plus Smart/Gordon/Vonleh/Saric. It didn't happen, we didn't get a top 3 talent, so it makes sense to move our assets to get a superstar some other way. Love is a superstar, like him or not. He didn't do anything bad to Minnesota. He did them a favor of informing them of his intentions in time for them to get the best return for him in a trade instead of leaving them high and dry next summer.

If Ainge believes that the players after the 3rd of 4th pick this year are not worth building around, then I trust him. He has more than earned my trust as a talent evaluator.

outside of embiid what makes you think Parker or Wiggins are head above shoulders better than guys like Randle, Smart or Gordon? Or even Exum

Gordon took his team to the elite 8, did Parker or Wiggins do that for their team?   Randle went to the finals

I like Wiggins but  he overhyped right now

A mountain of expert opinions and Danny Ainge's judgement are what make me think that Parker and Wiggins are much better than Randle, Smart, Gordon, or Exum. Btw, we have no shot at Exum with the 6th pick.

Building around Randle, a power forward who mirrors Sullinger's skills, or Gordon, an athletic big who can't shoot, projected to be similar to Shawn Marion, or Smart, a player projected to be similar to Tyreke Evans at best, while Rondo walks next summer, is going to result in a long term lottery bound team.

I would love to add an athletic Sullinger, younger Shawn Marion or a healthy Tyreke Evans on our team right about now

Parker plays defense like Love, Wiggins can't dribble nor finish with his left hand and is mentally weak out of the top 7 prospects.   

This is strong draft from 1-7 1-8.  you can't say Wiggins is going to be a likely superstar while Smart won't really do much in the league.

I'm not the one saying this, the NBA draft experts are.

[Celtics18]

Triboy,

Let's say Aaron Gordon and Marcus Smart end up being the two best players in this draft; a scenario that's not likely but at least within the realm of possibility.

Let's also say that Olynyk and Dieng end up maximizing their potential and being a top notch front court. 

Let's be as optimistic as possible about your proposed lineup.  The reality is that we'd still be looking at at least seven to eight years before the team was truly able to compete for a title if you kept these youngsters together.  By then, there's a good chance that not everybody stays.  The sticky issue of new contracts will come up before then, and the issue of who to pay and who not to pay. 

It's not impossible that a team like the one you propose could grow together and become a contender by the time they start to reach their late twenties . . . but, it is incredibly unlikely. 

[Tr1boy]

Triboy,

Let's say Aaron Gordon and Marcus Smart end up being the two best players in this draft; a scenario that's not likely but at least within the realm of possibility.

Let's also say that Olynyk and Dieng end up maximizing their potential and being a top notch front court. 

Let's be as optimistic as possible about your proposed lineup.  The reality is that we'd still be looking at at least seven to eight years before the team was truly able to compete for a title if you kept these youngsters together.  By then, there's a good chance that not everybody stays.  The sticky issue of new contracts will come up before then, and the issue of who to pay and who not to pay. 

It's not impossible that a team like the one you propose could grow together and become a contender by the time they start to reach their late twenties . . . but, it is incredibly unlikely.

well you think 7 to 8 years and i think in 2015-2016 this lineup makes the playoffs.

By then the Heat likely won't be the dominating team in the east, who knows what happens to the pacers.  You got to worry about teams like the Raptors, Wizards or maybe another team that assembles their team like the cHeaters.

By 2015-2016 my projection

Dieng - 10 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks per game
KO - 17 ppg , 7 reb, 1.5 assists
AA -  12 ppg, 7 reb, 1.5 assists, 1 block per game
JG - 17 ppg
MS - 15 ppg, 6 reb, 7 assists, 1 block per game, 1.5 steals

Bench

Sullinger - 12 pts, 8 reb
Muhammad - 8 ppg
Hairston - 8 ppg
Bass - 6 ppg

This would mean we would score 101 points per game on average. On top of that would be one of the better defensive teams from the east.  Having Dieng, Gordon, Smart would help any team be really good defensively

This would not be a team relying on 2 or 3 superstars to do everything. It would be more like the way the Pistons operated in the past or the Spurs do today. 

[colincb]

How do you reconcile this:

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

with this:

Anybody think the lineup above does not make the playoffs for the 2015-2016 season?

The bit about we're getting two top 3 picks from any other draft is your opinion and contradicted by teams in the 5-8 range reportedly looking to trade up, down, or out.

[Celtics18]

Triboy,

Let's say Aaron Gordon and Marcus Smart end up being the two best players in this draft; a scenario that's not likely but at least within the realm of possibility.

Let's also say that Olynyk and Dieng end up maximizing their potential and being a top notch front court. 

Let's be as optimistic as possible about your proposed lineup.  The reality is that we'd still be looking at at least seven to eight years before the team was truly able to compete for a title if you kept these youngsters together.  By then, there's a good chance that not everybody stays.  The sticky issue of new contracts will come up before then, and the issue of who to pay and who not to pay. 

It's not impossible that a team like the one you propose could grow together and become a contender by the time they start to reach their late twenties . . . but, it is incredibly unlikely.

well you think 7 to 8 years and i think in 2015-2016 this lineup makes the playoffs.

By then the Heat likely won't be the dominating team in the east, who knows what happens to the pacers.  You got to worry about teams like the Raptors, Wizards or maybe another team that assembles their team like the cHeaters.

By 2015-2016 my projection

Dieng - 10 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks per game
KO - 17 ppg , 8 reb, 1.5 assists
AA -  12 ppg, 7 reb, 1.5 assists, 1 block per game
JG - 17 ppg
MS - 15 ppg, 6 reb, 7 assists, 1 block per game, 1.5 steals

Bench

Sullinger - 12 pts, 8 reb
Muhammad - 8 ppg
Hairston - 8 ppg
Bass - 6 ppg

This would mean we would score 101 points per game on average. On top of that would be one of the better defensive teams from the east.  Having Dieng, Gordon, Smart would help any team be really good defensively

This would not be a team relying on 2 or 3 superstars to do everything. It would be more like the way the Pistons operated in the past or the Spurs do today.

You'd be relying on something that happens very rarely in the NBA; that is, a very young team being able to win.

It just doesn't happen.  Teams relying on youth as extensively as the one you propose don't have winning records.  If you can find an example of a team as inexperienced as the one you propose that has had playoff success, let me know.  Even by 2015-2016 this team will still be way too young to compete for anything meaningful.  I mean, I guess they could scrape in as an eighth seed in the East if the conference stays as bas as it is currently, but they wouldn't be close to being a serious threat. 

[Tr1boy]

How do you reconcile this:

So the only way to win is to do what the rockets are doing now?? 

Rebuilding, growing and being patient also works. This is a strong draft. Getting two top 3 picks from any other draft gives your team a pretty good chance to be good in the long run. Not give up your farm for a guy that is quitting on his team bc he cant take it anymore. No diff between what doc did to us vs what Love is doing to Minny

with this:

Anybody think the lineup above does not make the playoffs for the 2015-2016 season?

The bit about we're getting two top 3 picks from any other draft is your opinion and contradicted by teams in the 5-8 range reportedly looking to trade up, down, or out.

Are KO, Sullinger, Dieng , JG  rookies by then??

Smart, AA, Hairston are rookies this upcoming season. But you are not relying on these guys to carry the team.  By next season they will be much better players.

So you combine the two and this is where i predict to make a playoff spot in 2015-2016.  But prob 7th or 8th place. Then the season after maybe 4th place etc.

This is where the process to contending is slow but once your there, you can stay there on a yearly basis

[Boris Badenov]

Sounds like a good plan if your goal is to lose some more for Okafor.

your joking right?  So what Dieng, Sullinger, KO did (not consistently) though is considered a fluke?

You keep displaying a fundamental flaw in the logic of player evaluation. You talk about Sully having "stretches" of getting 20/15. And KO having "stretches" of 20/8/3. And Dieng having a "stretch" of productive play. And you leap from that to thinking these guys are high-value assets.

First of all your use of the word "stretch" is...a stretch. Sully had three games last year with 20/15 or better. KO had four of 20/8/3 or better. Those aren't stretches, they're the high outliers.

But the real issue is that to infer anything from those performances alone is utterly meaningless. Doing so ignores all the bad games, for one. Why don't we take the games where KO was 1-9 in 21 minutes and got absolutely lit up on defense and infer from those? Or the "stretch" of 6 straight games where Sully shot 22-69? Those games are no less informative about their ability than the good games you've cherry-picked.

League history is full of young guys, including many Celtics, who've had "stretches" like the ones you rave about and who never amounted to anything. Tons of players have a few good games, or even a month of play that looks really good here and there. Nearly all regress to the mean.

This doesn't mean that Sully and KO aren't good NBA prospects, but the possibilities include both that they improve and that they plateau or even get worse - and recognizing those possibilities is part of valuing them as players. You keep saying we should "wait and see" how good they turn out to be - but we could keep Sully only to find out that his back problems return and he's out of the league in two years. KO might never improve and be a perennial 8th man. Our #6 pick could easily turn out to be a complete bust (name the #6 picks in the last 30 years who turned out to be as good as Kevin Love!) Consistently ignoring these realities when making your arguments just makes it seem like you have a weak grasp on the logic of NBA asset valuation.

And it must be the case that GMs around the league believe the same thing - or else we'd be hearing about how valuable Sully and KO are as trade chips, or how we could trade the #6 pick for any number of superstars, or how stupid we'd be to trade Sully plus picks for Love. In fact, we're hearing nothing of the kind.

It's also proven by the countless examples of teams who've had multiple lottery picks, none of whom ended up being great players. There are many more teams like that than there are teams like OKC.

There's a fine line between being contrarian and just sticking your head in the sand when confronted with facts and logic that invalidate your positions.

[Tr1boy]

Triboy,

Let's say Aaron Gordon and Marcus Smart end up being the two best players in this draft; a scenario that's not likely but at least within the realm of possibility.

Let's also say that Olynyk and Dieng end up maximizing their potential and being a top notch front court. 

Let's be as optimistic as possible about your proposed lineup.  The reality is that we'd still be looking at at least seven to eight years before the team was truly able to compete for a title if you kept these youngsters together.  By then, there's a good chance that not everybody stays.  The sticky issue of new contracts will come up before then, and the issue of who to pay and who not to pay. 

It's not impossible that a team like the one you propose could grow together and become a contender by the time they start to reach their late twenties . . . but, it is incredibly unlikely.

well you think 7 to 8 years and i think in 2015-2016 this lineup makes the playoffs.

By then the Heat likely won't be the dominating team in the east, who knows what happens to the pacers.  You got to worry about teams like the Raptors, Wizards or maybe another team that assembles their team like the cHeaters.

By 2015-2016 my projection

Dieng - 10 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks per game
KO - 17 ppg , 8 reb, 1.5 assists
AA -  12 ppg, 7 reb, 1.5 assists, 1 block per game
JG - 17 ppg
MS - 15 ppg, 6 reb, 7 assists, 1 block per game, 1.5 steals

Bench

Sullinger - 12 pts, 8 reb
Muhammad - 8 ppg
Hairston - 8 ppg
Bass - 6 ppg

This would mean we would score 101 points per game on average. On top of that would be one of the better defensive teams from the east.  Having Dieng, Gordon, Smart would help any team be really good defensively

This would not be a team relying on 2 or 3 superstars to do everything. It would be more like the way the Pistons operated in the past or the Spurs do today.

You'd be relying on something that happens very rarely in the NBA; that is, a very young team being able to win.

It just doesn't happen.  Teams relying on youth as extensively as the one you propose don't have winning records.  If you can find an example of a team as inexperienced as the one you propose that has had playoff success, let me know.  Even by 2015-2016 this team will still be way too young to compete for anything meaningful.  I mean, I guess they could scrape in as an eighth seed in the East if the conference stays as bas as it is currently, but they wouldn't be close to being a serious threat.

do you just get to 8th place one season and then do nothing moving on fwd??

People here place limited ceilings for Dieng, KO, Sullinger, AA, Smart. These guys are not role players in the nba and have much more potential.

Maybe i can see the potential while other don't see these players amounting to anything.

[Tr1boy]

Sounds like a good plan if your goal is to lose some more for Okafor.

your joking right?  So what Dieng, Sullinger, KO did (not consistently) though is considered a fluke?

You keep displaying a fundamental flaw in the logic of player evaluation. You talk about Sully having "stretches" of getting 20/15. And KO having "stretches" of 20/8/3. And Dieng having a "stretch" of productive play. And you leap from that to thinking these guys are high-value assets.

First of all your use of the word "stretch" is...a stretch. Sully had three games last year with 20/15 or better. KO had four of 20/8/3 or better. Those aren't stretches, they're the high outliers.

But the real issue is that to infer anything from those performances alone is utterly meaningless. Doing so ignores all the bad games, for one. Why don't we take the games where KO was 1-9 in 21 minutes and got absolutely lit up on defense and infer from those? Or the "stretch" of 6 straight games where Sully shot 22-69? Those games are no less informative about their ability than the good games you've cherry-picked.

League history is full of young guys, including many Celtics, who've had "stretches" like the ones you rave about and who never amounted to anything. Tons of players have a few good games, or even a month of play that looks really good here and there. Nearly all regress to the mean.

This doesn't mean that Sully and KO aren't good NBA prospects, but the possibilities include both that they improve and that they plateau or even get worse - and recognizing those possibilities is part of valuing them as players. You keep saying we should "wait and see" how good they turn out to be - but we could keep Sully only to find out that his back problems return and he's out of the league in two years. KO might never improve and be a perennial 8th man. Our #6 pick could easily turn out to be a complete bust (name the #6 picks in the last 30 years who turned out to be as good as Kevin Love!) Consistently ignoring these realities when making your arguments just makes it seem like you have a weak grasp on the logic of NBA asset valuation.

And it must be the case that GMs around the league believe the same thing - or else we'd be hearing about how valuable Sully and KO are as trade chips, or how we could trade the #6 pick for any number of superstars, or how stupid we'd be to trade Sully plus picks for Love. In fact, we're hearing nothing of the kind.

It's also proven by the countless examples of teams who've had multiple lottery picks, none of whom ended up being great players. There are many more teams like that than there are teams like OKC.

There's a fine line between being contrarian and just sticking your head in the sand when confronted with facts and logic that invalidate your positions.

I love the way for you most teams with young players run like the way Bucks have. Your just stuck in the negative with the idea of building through youth. But most championships have been won through draft and build vs what the 2007 celtics, cHEATERS have been doing

what KO and Sullinger did even for a stretch most normal 1st year rookies can't do in this league. Did Cody Zeller who was picked higher than KO have a 10 plus rebound games or even score more 20 last season?  Yes i get your pt KO had many other bad games but he was only a 1st year rookie.   Is his body at peak level?? does he knows the ins and outs?? now he knows what it takes to take it to the next steps

A guy like SUllinger with the lack of athleticism, quickness grabbing 15 rebounds and scoring 20 points a game even though it was only a few games is incredible.  He knows how to play  and again needs to develop his body. He was only really a rookie last season

And yes i can tell you a player that was drafted 6th recently that imo is considered to be around Love's level or just below and that is Damien Lillard.  How long did it take him to become as good as he has? And he was drafted from a weaker class than the upcoming 2014 draft

[Celtics18]

Triboy,

Let's say Aaron Gordon and Marcus Smart end up being the two best players in this draft; a scenario that's not likely but at least within the realm of possibility.

Let's also say that Olynyk and Dieng end up maximizing their potential and being a top notch front court. 

Let's be as optimistic as possible about your proposed lineup.  The reality is that we'd still be looking at at least seven to eight years before the team was truly able to compete for a title if you kept these youngsters together.  By then, there's a good chance that not everybody stays.  The sticky issue of new contracts will come up before then, and the issue of who to pay and who not to pay. 

It's not impossible that a team like the one you propose could grow together and become a contender by the time they start to reach their late twenties . . . but, it is incredibly unlikely.

well you think 7 to 8 years and i think in 2015-2016 this lineup makes the playoffs.

By then the Heat likely won't be the dominating team in the east, who knows what happens to the pacers.  You got to worry about teams like the Raptors, Wizards or maybe another team that assembles their team like the cHeaters.

By 2015-2016 my projection

Dieng - 10 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks per game
KO - 17 ppg , 8 reb, 1.5 assists
AA -  12 ppg, 7 reb, 1.5 assists, 1 block per game
JG - 17 ppg
MS - 15 ppg, 6 reb, 7 assists, 1 block per game, 1.5 steals

Bench

Sullinger - 12 pts, 8 reb
Muhammad - 8 ppg
Hairston - 8 ppg
Bass - 6 ppg

This would mean we would score 101 points per game on average. On top of that would be one of the better defensive teams from the east.  Having Dieng, Gordon, Smart would help any team be really good defensively

This would not be a team relying on 2 or 3 superstars to do everything. It would be more like the way the Pistons operated in the past or the Spurs do today.

You'd be relying on something that happens very rarely in the NBA; that is, a very young team being able to win.

It just doesn't happen.  Teams relying on youth as extensively as the one you propose don't have winning records.  If you can find an example of a team as inexperienced as the one you propose that has had playoff success, let me know.  Even by 2015-2016 this team will still be way too young to compete for anything meaningful.  I mean, I guess they could scrape in as an eighth seed in the East if the conference stays as bas as it is currently, but they wouldn't be close to being a serious threat.

do you just get to 8th place one season and then do nothing moving on fwd??

People here place limited ceilings for Dieng, KO, Sullinger, AA, Smart. These guys are not role players in the nba and have much more potential.

Maybe i can see the potential while other don't see these players amounting to anything.

I actually like all the players you mention in your proposed young Celtics team.  I just think that having a bit more of a mix of veterans in there will speed up our rebuilding process and allow us the possibility to compete sooner.  Stripping the team of any and all veteran talent (except for Green) is not the way to go in my opinion. 

It will take too long, and while some of the youngsters may work out, the chances of all of them reaching their maximum potential, and that they all stick around beyond their rookie contracts, is quite slim.  You need some more quality vets to be able to lean on.