Should we blow everything up and trade rondo for a lottery

[Clench123]

No.  Just.  No.

[NorthernLightning]

The fact is, looking back, Rondo chased Ray Allen out of Boston. Ray Allen, the guy on your TV right now in the Finals for the 4th time in 6 years.

I blamed Ray at first, but looking back it was Rondo's big ego that drove Ray out of town. Always waving Ray off unless he was wide open.

Rondo wanted to replace Ray in the Big 3, giving KG and PP all the shots they wanted but limiting the scoring opportunities of the best shooter Rondo could ever hope to play with.

[Rondo9]

The fact is, looking back, Rondo chased Ray Allen out of Boston. Ray Allen, the guy on your TV right now in the Finals for the 4th time in 6 years.

I blamed Ray at first, but looking back it was Rondo's big ego that drove Ray out of town. Always waving Ray off unless he was wide open.

Rondo wanted to replace Ray in the Big 3, giving KG and PP all the shots they wanted but limiting the scoring opportunities of the best shooter Rondo could ever hope to play with.

Ray chose to leave, and it was because of Doc and Danny not Rondo. Where's your proof that Rondo wanted to replace Ray Allen on the core group?

[Schiller]

Ray Allen, the guy on your TV right now in the Finals for the 4th time in 6 years.

It's not because of him they've been in the finals. He left to go to a younger contending team.

This thread has turned into a real Rondo bashing thread. Rondo can't shoot. Rondo wants a max contract. Rondo forced Ray Allen to leave.

Where are the facts for any of these assertions?

[Future Celtics Owner]

In response to you saying Rondo can't shoot: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/courtvision-everything-you-think-you-know-about-rondos-shooting-is-wrong/

I'm not saying he is a good shooter, but saying he can't shoot isn't true.

Also, he has NEVER said he wanted max money. I don't know why so many people regurgitate the same things about Rondo.

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Rondo's shooting. And your right Rondo can shoot....layups great.

[BballTim]

The fact is, looking back, Rondo chased Ray Allen out of Boston. Ray Allen, the guy on your TV right now in the Finals for the 4th time in 6 years.

I blamed Ray at first, but looking back it was Rondo's big ego that drove Ray out of town. Always waving Ray off unless he was wide open.

Rondo wanted to replace Ray in the Big 3, giving KG and PP all the shots they wanted but limiting the scoring opportunities of the best shooter Rondo could ever hope to play with.

  I'm pretty sure he poisoned Ray's dog too, had him put on a terrorist watch list and framed him for the Kennedy assassination. Both of them in fact.

  If you're looking for the ego in the group, go with the guy who left the team in a snit for less money because he lost his starting spot, was angry that Danny negotiated with KG first and not Ray, and was jealous of PP for having a bigger role in the offense than Ray had.

[colincb]

we use our 6th pick on Aaron gordon. 8th pick( which we get from sacramento for rondo) to get smart. Use our  17th pick and couple second rounders to move up to like 15 and draft saric were he will fall because he said he only wants to play for the celtics and laker. he will also fall because he played in a foreign league.

Why would we want to do this?  What are the strengths and weaknesses of this strategy?

[Schiller]

In response to you saying Rondo can't shoot: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/courtvision-everything-you-think-you-know-about-rondos-shooting-is-wrong/

I'm not saying he is a good shooter, but saying he can't shoot isn't true.

Also, he has NEVER said he wanted max money. I don't know why so many people regurgitate the same things about Rondo.

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Rondo's shooting. And your right Rondo can shoot....layups great.

1. You aren't watching anything. It's an article.

2. If you took two minutes to actually read the article you would see why you're wrong. This would lead to you becoming a more informed fan and hopefully spewing less crap about Rondo.

[NorthernLightning]

we use our 6th pick on Aaron gordon. 8th pick( which we get from sacramento for rondo) to get smart. Use our  17th pick and couple second rounders to move up to like 15 and draft saric were he will fall because he said he only wants to play for the celtics and laker. he will also fall because he played in a foreign league.

Why would we want to do this?  What are the strengths and weaknesses of this strategy?

Rookies play on cheap long-term deals. If you make the right picks, you can set your franchise up for long time, while having plenty of cap room to sign good/top free agents.

[NorthernLightning]

A big reason Ray Allen left Heat for Celtics was his relationship with Rajon Rondo
A source said they 'hated each other,' and Allen wouldn't return if Rondo was there
Two will meet Tuesday night when the Celtics play the Heat in the season opener

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/chris_mannix/10/30/ray-allen-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-miami-heat/index.html#ixzz33p3WGjzE

[NorthernLightning]

No matter how Boston spins it, a big reason Allen left a two-year, $12 million offer from the Celtics on the table to sign a three-year, $9 million deal with the Heat is a fractured relationship with Rondo. Allen traces the break back to 2009, when Boston considered trading Allen and Rondo to Phoenix, in part, according to Allen, because of Rondo's poor relationship with Rivers and Celtics president Danny Ainge.

"So, I called him and I told him, 'Hey, they're supposedly trading us to Phoenix because you and Danny and Doc don't get along,' " Allen told the Miami Herald. "So, for some reason, I guess he thought that I had something against him, or there were some issues. And I had no issues with him. I won with him."

From there the relationship soured -- quickly.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/chris_mannix/10/30/ray-allen-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-miami-heat/index.html#ixzz33p3uCRWB

[NorthernLightning]

as the years went by and Rondo's role with the team increased, the two drifted apart and the animosity grew. Sources say Rondo's rapid ascension irked Allen, and that as the relationship deteriorated, Allen felt the fallout was spilling onto the court. According to sources, at least once last season the two had to be separated in the locker room because Allen believed Rondo was intentionally looking him off.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/chris_mannix/10/30/ray-allen-rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-miami-heat/index.html#ixzz33p4EeYN9

[Future Celtics Owner]

Ray Allen, the guy on your TV right now in the Finals for the 4th time in 6 years.

It's not because of him they've been in the finals. He left to go to a younger contending team.

This thread has turned into a real Rondo bashing thread. Rondo can't shoot. Rondo wants a max contract. Rondo forced Ray Allen to leave.

Where are the facts for any of these assertions?

I never bashed Rondo, I just said you left out his contract . And I can assert Rondo wants max money because he turned down an extension that we offered him. Also there will be teams out there willing to gamble and throw him max money . Thats why people like Rashard Lewis and Vin Baker get those contracts. Should we do that? IDK. But we are the celtics and we have great management and a top notch organization. My fear is that we do give Rondo a contract similar to a max deal and he gets injured again, loses a step and does not learn to shoot better.

I guess I'm worried that the great point guards who aged well all could shoot or learned how to shoot (Jason Kidd) or at least hit free throws above the high 50 to low 60 percents.....rondo

[fitzhickey]

We should not trade rondo for a pick. Keep him.

[colincb]

we use our 6th pick on Aaron gordon. 8th pick( which we get from sacramento for rondo) to get smart. Use our  17th pick and couple second rounders to move up to like 15 and draft saric were he will fall because he said he only wants to play for the celtics and laker. he will also fall because he played in a foreign league.

Why would we want to do this?  What are the strengths and weaknesses of this strategy?

Rookies play on cheap long-term deals. If you make the right picks, you can set your franchise up for long time, while having plenty of cap room to sign good/top free agents.

Are there any weaknesses?