Flips Rips C's Fans

[Tr1boy]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

There is no "proper" way to rebuild. There are many paths, and acquiring someone like Love is one of them.

Exactly. How many times have the celtics actually built a successful championship team through the draft? We got Bill Russell through one of Auerbach's legendary trades, and managed to put together the original big 3 through similar Auerbachian trade moves. On top of that, how many times in the past 20 years have they done it? We all remember how Ainge put together the last celtic big 3.

The Celtics had a string of horrible luck that rebuilding through the draft did not work. There was the Len Bias/Reggie Lewis tragedies. Then trading Joe Johnson which was one of the biggest mistake this org made. 

[greg683x]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

[Smokeeye123]

I dont get people who are against getting Love. Yes his defense is mediocre at best, so is Carmelo's. He is also a yearly allstar who is third in the league in PER.

Sullinger/Aaron Gordon/filler and late first round picks for Love and you think we are giving up too much? Yes maybe Sullinger becomes David West in 3-4 years, he is probably just as likely to become West as to re-injure his back and be severely hampered the rest of his career.

[Smokeeye123]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

There is no "proper" way to rebuild. There are many paths, and acquiring someone like Love is one of them.

Exactly. How many times have the celtics actually built a successful championship team through the draft? We got Bill Russell through one of Auerbach's legendary trades, and managed to put together the original big 3 through similar Auerbachian trade moves. On top of that, how many times in the past 20 years have they done it? We all remember how Ainge put together the last celtic big 3.

The Celtics had a string of horrible luck that rebuilding through the draft did not work. There was the Len Bias/Reggie Lewis tragedies. Then trading Joe Johnson which was one of the biggest mistake this org made.

Joe Johnson was traded the year before Danny Ainge was hired. Since then the team has drafted and been run quite well. If Danny thinks trading for Love is the best move than I'd side with Danny

[Tr1boy]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

You really think getting Love and Asik is going to bring us a championship?  This is what i'm talking about

The Lakers, Heat had/have two of the best players on their team (Bosh is not bad either). The Celtics brought in a legend (KG) and prob the best 3 pt shooter of all time to win it all. The Pistons had B class players, but unlike Love or Rondo didn't need to be paid max money. They had 4 or 5 B class players instead of 2, of course they had a chance to win

[esel1000]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

You really think getting Love and Asik is going to bring us a championship?  This is what i'm talking about

The Lakers, Heat had/have two of the best players on their team (Bosh is not bad either). The Celtics brought in a legend (KG) and prob the best 3 pt shooter of all time to win it all. The Pistons had B class players, but unlike Love or Rondo didn't need to be paid max money. They had 5 or 6 class b players instead of 2, of course they had a chance to win

Whose to say the players we draft bring us a championship? Wouldn't you rather take a chance with an established top 10 player?

[greg683x]

I dont get people who are against getting Love. Yes his defense is mediocre at best, so is Carmelo's. He is also a yearly allstar who is third in the league in PER.

Sullinger/Aaron Gordon/filler and late first round picks for Love and you think we are giving up too much? Yes maybe Sullinger becomes David West in 3-4 years, he is probably just as likely to become West as to re-injure his back and be severely hampered the rest of his career.

because as long as theres a 1% percent chance we could end up with a franchise cornerstone player with no holes in their game like Durant, Lebron, or Duncan, there will always be someone thinking we should veto any move that could hurt the chances of a player like that from falling in our laps.......no matter how many years of mediocrity it takes.

[Rondo9]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

You really think getting Love and Asik is going to bring us a championship?  This is what i'm talking about

The Lakers, Heat had/have two of the best players on their team (Bosh is not bad either). The Celtics brought in a legend (KG) and prob the best 3 pt shooter of all time to win it all. The Pistons had B class players, but unlike Love or Rondo didn't need to be paid max money. They had 4 or 5 B class players instead of 2, of course they had a chance to win

It'll be a start and Miami and Boston completed their rebuild through trade.

[greg683x]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

You really think getting Love and Asik is going to bring us a championship?  This is what i'm talking about

The Lakers, Heat had/have two of the best players on their team (Bosh is not bad either). The Celtics brought in a legend (KG) and prob the best 3 pt shooter of all time to win it all. The Pistons had B class players, but unlike Love or Rondo didn't need to be paid max money. They had 4 or 5 B class players instead of 2, of course they had a chance to win

No, I never said it would bring us a championship.  But I think it's a step in the right direction.  Additional trades can be made.  Other free agent moves can be made.  You act like this team didnt spend over the luxury tax once the owners knew this team was going to be competitive.

For as much disappointment the draft has brought us, I'm surprised you are so against bringing in a player in his mid 20's that is putting up numbers we would all be thrilled to see one of these draft picks put up.  But the best part is, we know he'll do it!!  We know hes not a bust!

[MBunge]

yea, I think Triboy is in some serious denial and getting desperate

i'm not desperate. You are. And you can't be patient like alot of fans here

Any All star or All star like player , that can't play defense , hasn't made  the playoffs, are or will be overpaid etc. it doesn't matter, as long as they are a big name. Please come here and get us back to glory land

I don't care about that. I care about rebuilding a team a proper way (or least get a guy that is singed for more than a year).  Trust your gm, coaches etc to get us back to contending.

NBA Champs the last 15 years that built teams the way you would like:

San Antonio, Dallas (although they could be on either side of this)

NBA Champs with teams built through trades for other teams stars:

Lakers (x2) , Celtics, Miami Heat (x2), Detroit Pistons


Last I checked we're all trusting the GM that built us our previous title contender, and youre the one fighting what the GM could be doing.

Theres more than one way to skin a cat.

You really think getting Love and Asik is going to bring us a championship?  This is what i'm talking about

The Lakers, Heat had/have two of the best players on their team (Bosh is not bad either). The Celtics brought in a legend (KG) and prob the best 3 pt shooter of all time to win it all. The Pistons had B class players, but unlike Love or Rondo didn't need to be paid max money. They had 4 or 5 B class players instead of 2, of course they had a chance to win

You keep talking about Rondo and Love demanding max money.  I don't believe either of them are on record saying they expect or demand max money.

Mike

[Tr1boy]

Lets see what happens.

For now i don't have confidence or fear that Love is coming to Boston. Matter of fact it sounds like the Wolves want no part in trading him to anyone and will do alot to try to have him stay.   My prediciton is, Saunders, Taylor etc will have a meeting with him soon.  Hear him out, hear his complaints. Hear about how disappointed he was with Barera not joining the huddle, team not making the playoffs since he has been in the league, naybe he has a problem with Pekovic or Rubio etc.  Then Flip will try his best to accommodate his needs, trade whoever he doesn't like and assure him if by the trade deadline he is not happy and won't resign, he will get his wish and be traded.   A good chance Love accepts this offer. Or maybe he will be adament he does not want to ever play for the Wolves again and needs to be traded asap ( he could sit out).   So as a celtic fan dying to get Love in a celtics uniform, you got this hurdle to go through. Next problem is, is the Celts offer good enough?. If GSW or Wizards go for it and trade either Thompson or Beal, the Wolves imo will take that deal anytime of the year vs receiving the 6th pick and Sully.   Plus you got Flip talking crap about the Celtic fans, Taylor prob still bitter about getting jack from the KG trade and frankly i see it as a longshot that we will have a chance to trade for him.

Yes, personally i don't want Love as a Celtic by giving up our assets but realistically it's not going to be easy to get him.  If and only if our offer/package is the best  there is and time is running out to make a deal, then there is a possibility the trade happens, regardless of how much Flip dislikes Boston. 

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I don't care what the majority thinks, no one is going to convince me that Love is the only way and that I'm some how stupid because I don't agree that we have to throw everything to obtain him.

I don't really understand how anyone thinks you walk away with Love for Sully/Arron Gordon (#6)/fillers.... that's not reality based.


Again, the only problem I truly have with obtaining him will be the cost to us. I already feel that Sully will be our Love, now we have to not only pay money wise, we have to give up multiple picks and expiring players???

[86MaxwellSmart]

Flip is absolutely correct:

I am still mad we didn't get Duncan.
Still mad we didn't get the #1 Pick in 2007---Danny had to pull a rabbit out of his hat, after that.

I am still upset that Len Bias died.

I am still scratching my head as to why we were Not given salary cap relief for 3 years, when Reggie Lewis died---Teams got cap relief when players Retired---Our player DIES--and nothing from Stern.

I am still mad, that Kendrick Perkins could not play in Game 7---where the Refs Called the 4th Quarter, COMPLETELY different from the the first 3 in 2010.

I also will never forget Magic's 1987 Junior Sky Hook---that he should never have taken--cause the Ball was actually knocked out of bounds by Mychal Thompson (over the back of McHale)---should have been Celtics ball.

1988-Ref Jack Madden calls McHale for offensive goaltending against Detroit---knocking us out of the playoffs---when replay shows McHale about 4 feet from the rim.

So, yes....Celtics fans have Long memories---All of these events have cost us at least 10 Championships as far as I'm concerned.
 

[greg683x]

Lets see what happens.

For now i don't have confidence or fear that Love is coming to Boston. Matter of fact it sounds like the Wolves want no part in trading him to anyone and will do alot to try to have him stay.  My prediciton is, Saunders, Taylor etc will have a meeting with him soon.  Hear him out, hear his complaints. Hear about how disappointed he was with Barera not joining the huddle, team not making the playoffs since he has been in the league, naybe he has a problem with Pekovic or Rubio etc.  Then Flip will try his best to accommodate his needs, trade whoever he doesn't like and assure him if by the trade deadline he is not happy and won't resign, he will get his wish and be traded.   A good chance Love accepts this offer. Or maybe he will be adament he does not want to ever play for the Wolves again and needs to be traded asap ( he could sit out).   So as a celtic fan dying to get Love in a celtics uniform, you got this hurdle to go through. Next problem is, is the Celts offer good enough?. If GSW or Wizards go for it and trade either Thompson or Beal, the Wolves imo will take that deal anytime of the year vs receiving the 6th pick and Sully.   Plus you got Flip talking crap about the Celtic fans, Taylor prob still bitter about getting jack from the KG trade and frankly i see it as a longshot that we will have a chance to trade for him.

Yes, personally i don't want Love as a Celtic by giving up our assets but realistically it's not going to be easy to get him.  If and only if our offer/package is the best  there is and time is running out to make a deal, then there is a possibility the trade happens, regardless of how much Flip dislikes Boston.

Love made a public statement WEEKS ago that he doesnt intend to resign in Minnesota if he isnt traded.  Dont you think Flip and Taylor would have had this meeting by now?

The fact that hes in Boston publicly hanging out with celtics players and seeing the city should lead you to believe that Minnesota and Love are farther apart than they ever have been.

Sure its easy to kick your feet up and say yeah it probably wont happen, because yes there is lots of things that can make a trade fall apart, but I guarantee you one of them isnt a GM being bitter with a few excited fans.

[chambers]

Say goodbye to having a chance at love fans. No way he will give the celts love unless danny seriously overpays.

I didnt wan love anywyas

  Yeah, he'll probably explain to the owners he decided not to take the best offer for Love to stick it to an opponent's fan base. Employment's overrated anyways.

Lol flip is good pals with Danny and the Celtics organisation.
He's just playing to the crowd- letting his employers (the Wolves) know that he's not gonna make getting Love a friendly ordeal. He knows we've got the best of the realistic package at this point in time.

Or he hates his NBA colleagues, job and money.