This is the reason why i don't want Love as a Celtic

[MBunge]

Regarding the Chandler-Love stuff, it was reported that the two are friends who were basically screwing around with each other.

I think Love is more willing to try hard on defense, compared to other scorers like James Harden and Carmelo Anthony.  I think he's better than either of those guys.

Harden is atrocious but Melo has gotten a lot better on defense.

Mike

[hpantazo]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

[DraftSmart33]

Just wanted to participate in the video fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeJYRnZ37yg

marker 1:26, 2:43

[Tr1boy]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

nice lawyer style defense.    I've seen enough games he has played.  The clips are the highlights or more like the norm of how he plays defense. 

If he scores 25 , against above avg PF's he is going to give up about the same amount of points. In addition provide little to no weakside defensive help.

People excuse Love and say he hasn't made the playoffs bc his team stinks. Well maybe the key reason they do is bc of him.  If he took less money to get more help, the team would be better.  Instead he wants to get paid like a top dog, play defense like a puppy and complains that he hasn't made the playoffs.  When he gets traded he will be doing the Wolves a favor imo.  I just don't want the Celtics to be on the wrong side of this transaction

[bucknersrevenge]

FWIW, that first YouTube clip with all the defensive possessions was from 2011. That was like his first or 2nd year in the league. He was still learning the league. Not that Def Rtg is the end all be all of stats but his rating in those first 2 years was 109. Last year it was 104 and the year before 102. I think league average is 104. I have no doubt if you surround him with competent defenders in a good scheme he will be for us at the very worst, a passable defender that will obviously aid our defense with his rebounding. The most important part of any good defensive possession is securing the rebound after the missed shot and that's what this guy does. Oh by the way, we were 24th in the league in Defensive rebounding last year in case anyone was curious. Does anyone REALLY don't think this guy can't help our defense? And how many serious offensive talents at PF are there in the East?

[NorthernLightning]

Instead he wants to get paid like a top dog, play defense like a puppy and complains that he hasn't made the playoffs.

Yeah, he'll be complaining and mentally checking out on the Celtics shortly after he signs his next contract, which is what he did to the Wolves right after he signed his last contract.

[DraftSmart33]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

nice lawyer style defense.    I've seen enough games he has played.  The clips are the highlights or more like the norm of how he plays defense. 

If he scores 25 , against above avg PF's he is going to give up about the same amount of points. In addition provide little to no weakside defensive help.

People excuse Love and say he hasn't made the playoffs bc his team stinks. Well maybe the key reason they do is bc of him.  If he took less money to get more help, the team would be better.  Instead he wants to get paid like a top dog, play defense like a puppy and complains that he hasn't made the playoffs.  When he gets traded he will be doing the Wolves a favor imo.  I just don't want the Celtics to be on the wrong side of this transaction

You just are throwing out your thoughts with zero support in fact..check out win shares...check out his teams starting five rating verse opponents...check out the western conference...check out what place they would have come in if they played in the East.  Your just spewing nonsense at this point.

[Monkhouse]

Another I hate Love thread. Cool.

On to the next one.

[LooseCannon]

People excuse Love and say he hasn't made the playoffs bc his team stinks. Well maybe the key reason they do is bc of him.  If he took less money to get more help, the team would be better.  Instead he wants to get paid like a top dog, play defense like a puppy and complains that he hasn't made the playoffs.  When he gets traded he will be doing the Wolves a favor imo.  I just don't want the Celtics to be on the wrong side of this transaction

The Twolves once started Michael Beasley and Darko Milicic next to Kevin Love.  They've spent high draft picks on the likes of Ricky Rubio, Johnny Flynn , Wesley Johnson, and Derrick Williams.  I feel pretty confident in saying the Minnesota front office is more to blame than Kevin Love for the team's lack of success, and it's not even close.

[moiso]

I wonder if the Tyson Chandler interview is from the game when Love dropped 34 and 15 on the Knicks

Eh, minor details.

Anybody can rack up 34 and 15 on any given night

Haha, he had 34 and 15 and was the worst player on the court

[MBunge]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

nice lawyer style defense.    I've seen enough games he has played.  The clips are the highlights or more like the norm of how he plays defense. 

If he scores 25 , against above avg PF's he is going to give up about the same amount of points.

82games.com says Love's PER compared to opposing PFs was 26.1 to 14.2.  His PER comparison when playing at center was 35 to 17.7.

Mike

[Tr1boy]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

nice lawyer style defense.    I've seen enough games he has played.  The clips are the highlights or more like the norm of how he plays defense. 

If he scores 25 , against above avg PF's he is going to give up about the same amount of points. In addition provide little to no weakside defensive help.

People excuse Love and say he hasn't made the playoffs bc his team stinks. Well maybe the key reason they do is bc of him.  If he took less money to get more help, the team would be better.  Instead he wants to get paid like a top dog, play defense like a puppy and complains that he hasn't made the playoffs.  When he gets traded he will be doing the Wolves a favor imo.  I just don't want the Celtics to be on the wrong side of this transaction

You just are throwing out your thoughts with zero support in fact..check out win shares...check out his teams starting five rating verse opponents...check out the western conference...check out what place they would have come in if they played in the East.  Your just spewing nonsense at this point.

your spewing out the nonsense imo.  Who cares if he plays in the East?? So basically with Love we can get a free pass and make the playoffs a little easier. Does this make a difference in us having a chance to actually win it all??

In the end you can't cheat your way to win a ring.  Even the cHEATERs play excellent defense to get the job done. Kevin Love imo has no clue what it takes to be a top overall player in this league.

If we were talking about giving  up the 6th plus Sully etc for Aldridge, i would be all in for that. He is a complete player that deserves the pay he is receiving.   There is no point on settling on guys like Love, Melo instead

[Tr1boy]

hmm? watching that video love picked up what looked to be thadeus young, rashard lewis & Sheldon Williams. 2 of those guys are small forwards playing power forward and Sheldon Williams hit a BS shot.

What about that slow azz turnaround jumper by Tyler Hansborough on Love. Tyler no skills Hansborough

like I said earlier:

he could be taking the "I have to stay on the floor for this team to have a chance" approach.

Who says he has to foul?  Just play solid D , stay with your man and put up your arms. Wave your arms. Do something

You have no stats or anything to back up your claim other than some shady youtube clips which, as others have said, you can put together for any NBA player and show whatever you like. We get it, you hate Love, but you have made no legit argument against us trading for him.

nice lawyer style defense.    I've seen enough games he has played.  The clips are the highlights or more like the norm of how he plays defense. 

If he scores 25 , against above avg PF's he is going to give up about the same amount of points.

82games.com says Love's PER compared to opposing PFs was 26.1 to 14.2.  His PER comparison when playing at center was 35 to 17.7.

Mike

can you provide PER compared to decent opposing PF's and not scrubs/rookies?

[Tr1boy]

The Celtics right now are like the Wolves of the east. So Kevin Love coming from one not so good team to another is not going to make a real difference in the long run.

We need a "KG, Bird etc." kind of player. If your going to trade the farm for a player, you better be sure its for a real good one.  A complete player that knows what it takes to win. A proper leader. We get Love , we get a good weapon but a guy who gets paid like a "franchise calibre" player (like Melo). It's not going to end well.

If we were the Bulls, an excellent defensive team already/have a system in place and needed an offensive weapon, then Love would be a nice fit.

[Mikedmx6]

Would you prefer Aldridge if he was available? I want love like all the others but I'm more for pursuing Aldridge but I'm guessing that's to late cause love wouldn't be here for nothing.