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Omer Asik is not the third in the next Big Three....
« on: May 31, 2014, 05:58:56 PM »

Offline Robert24

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I'd like to get Asik, but he'll only be a better rebounding Perk for us, not an All-Star center. When I mean Perk, I don't mean 2014 Perkins, but Celtics Perkins. I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.

We need to somehow get a go-to scorer in FA in the future, preferably a SG or SF, whether that's Melo this offseason or Monta Ellis next offseason. Then, we can call ourselves contenders.

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I'd like to get Asik, but he'll only be a better rebounding Perk for us, not an All-Star center. When I mean Perk, I don't mean 2014 Perkins, but Celtics Perkins. I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.

We need to somehow get a go-to scorer in FA in the future, preferably a SG or SF, whether that's Melo this offseason or Monta Ellis next offseason. Then, we can call ourselves contenders.

Well, let's focus on whether Ainge can add a headliner, be it Love or Anthony, and whether or not Rondo is actually still good before we worry about adding the final piece to the championship puzzle.

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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 06:22:13 PM »

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I think Asik will cost $10-11 million a year on his next deal. So ... I don't think there will be any Big Threes (on max to near max contracts) with a fourth option like Asik earning that much money.

I think it will have to be a different type of roster construct than that.

Say something like (a) the 2004 Pistons where you have a top tier defense, a balanced starting five and one of the best benches in the league. Or (b) something like a Big Four where you have 1-2 players on max or near max contracts and then two players who are below All-Star level earning around $10 million a piece. Sort of like Chris Paul's Hornets when he had David West, Tyson Chandler and Peja Stojakovic (who unfortunately fell off early into their time together). So say Rondo, Kevin Love (2nd max money guy), Omer Asik and 4th guy around Paul Millsap / Lamar Odom / Klay Thompson level performer.

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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 06:29:55 PM »

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We need a C who will take Rondo dimes then put it in the basket, rebound & defend. Asik is just a rebounder. We'll be better with Timofey Mozgov or Monroe than him.

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In trying to convince myself that Love would be a great addition I keep fixating on pairing him with a dominant defender at center.
But i just had another idea... Trade for love AND Martin then use the TE in a s&t with Detroit for Monroe.
Role out
Rondo, Martin, green, love, and Monroe.
Martin, love and green spread the floor, rondo and green slash to basket, Monroe works the post.
Our d would kinda suck but we'd clean the glass like windex and score like Ron Jeremy.

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I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.
Well, there's your problem. You're looking at the numbers, not the impact. He's one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.
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I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.
Well, there's your problem. You're looking at the numbers, not the impact. He's one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

This.

We're going to have to pay for a quality defensive big. I think Asik is a reasonable C.

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I could get excited about a pairing of Love and Asik.  At least rebounding wouldn't be an issue.

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He's not the third in the big 3, but he is a very good player that will make our team better. If we are going to have a third great player, it will probably come later on when we have cap space or by using the picks we have left.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2014, 07:59:12 PM »

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I'd like to get Asik, but he'll only be a better rebounding Perk for us, not an All-Star center. When I mean Perk, I don't mean 2014 Perkins, but Celtics Perkins. I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.

We need to somehow get a go-to scorer in FA in the future, preferably a SG or SF, whether that's Melo this offseason or Monta Ellis next offseason. Then, we can call ourselves contenders.

  If you're talking third member of a big three and Love's one of the other players, he was 4th in the league in scoring this year. I don't think another scorer will necessarily be our biggest need.

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Offline bmac934

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you all have it twisted, asik would never be a member of a big three
but did we include perk into a big four? no but as we saw in 2009 he was extremely important

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you all have it twisted, asik would never be a member of a big three
but did we include perk into a big four? no but as we saw in 2009 he was extremely important
Omer Asik is 10x better than Kendrick Perkins.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2014, 08:41:42 PM »

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I think he can average a solid 8, 10 and 1, but that isn't third option numbers.
Well, there's your problem. You're looking at the numbers, not the impact. He's one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

Larry sanders is a much better defensive center than asik and is probably just as getable/ maybe ben more.

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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2014, 08:49:02 PM »

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A few thoughts:

1) If the Wolves are looking to rebuild, Danny should look to see if they want to dump Kevin Martin. If so, he'd be a great scoring option at the 2.

2) Martin or not, bringing back PP would help to fill the scoring void in the short term and let the C's be competitive while Danny finds a long term solution.

3) Finally, and most importantly, there is a real risk that a Love/Rondo team with complimentary players may be a perpetual 2nd round of the playoffs exit team. And it's quite true that Danny may need to strike gold with a late teens or 20s draft pick to make such a team an actual contender. But I like the odds of that happening better than tanking and hoping we win a LeBron/Durant-type lottery or waiting around for the next KG/Ray scenario to unfold.

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As a defender, Asik is on the same level as Dwight Howard and Marc Gasol.  As a rebounder, Asik is on the same level as Howard and Kevin Love.  As an offensive player....um, he's better than Kendrick Perkins and I think he still has a bit of upside on offense.
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