Hibbert could be available for trade

[hwangjini_1]

Especially if Love is here...Perk makes sense.  He can guard all centers so you help Love against the good 4's.  And he rebounds.  I'm not sure about the contract situation but watching OKC, Adams is their center moving forward.  So I would expect Perk to be expendable.  But it has to be at the right price.

Well, let's define rebounds here. Perk was ranked 21st among all centers in rebounds per 48 minutes last year. That is not exceptional by any stretch of the imagination. Perk is generally counted as among the very worst centers in the nba.

Just say no to perk.

[GreenWarrior]

i'd rather have asik. hibbert is feeble minded.

[hpantazo]

OKC should have amnestied Perk when they had the chance and used some money to keep Harden.

[kiwiceltic]

No thanks. Hibbert vanished for most of the Pacers playoff games, I'd rather have Asik for the same $$, or Hawes, Robin Lopez even Kanter if the money worked

[Mikedmx6]

Do people really think rondo love asik are championship contenders?  That's far far off. I've said it multiple times I truly believe celtics end up with rondo love melo. That's more championship compatible in my opinion.

[knuckleballer]

Do people really think rondo love asik are championship contenders?  That's far far off. I've said it multiple times I truly believe celtics end up with rondo love melo. That's more championship compatible in my opinion.

I love the idea of Rondo, Melo, Love, but don't see how they can make that happen.  The Knicks would need to trade Melo and take Green and maybe Wallace back.  I can't imagine them doing that.  Convince me otherwise.

[Mikedmx6]

I mean in all honesty melo is opting out so don't really need to trade for him more like shed the bad contracts and convince melo to come here,  which then you can say to new York let's work out a sign and trade so you will get something out of it. Unless I'm wrong and melo said he isn't opting out.

[LooseCannon]

Do people really think rondo love asik are championship contenders?  That's far far off. I've said it multiple times I truly believe celtics end up with rondo love melo. That's more championship compatible in my opinion.

I think Rondo/Love/Asik can be the core of a championship contender and I like that better than Rondo/Love/Melo.  One reason is because you have to give up more to get Melo, especially if you create cap space to sign him.

I don't think Brad Stevens, at least at this point in his career, is the right guy to coach Carmelo Anthony.  I'm not sure if Melo would be receptive to a relatively young coach who does not have experience as an NBA player.

[knuckleballer]

But the Knicks would still need to sign and trade Melo.  Lets assume the Celtics trade Sully, Bass, Bogans, the #6 pick, and a future Brooklyn pick for Love.  Then we could trade Green, Wallace, the #17 pick, the other Brooklyn pick, and the better of the 2017 Celtics or Brooklyn picks for Melo.  I could see some teams doing that, but I'd be surprised if Dolan would consider it.

[knuckleballer]

Do people really think rondo love asik are championship contenders?  That's far far off. I've said it multiple times I truly believe celtics end up with rondo love melo. That's more championship compatible in my opinion.

I think Rondo/Love/Asik can be the core of a championship contender and I like that better than Rondo/Love/Melo.  One reason is because you have to give up more to get Melo, especially if you create cap space to sign him.

I don't think Brad Stevens, at least at this point in his career, is the right guy to coach Carmelo Anthony.  I'm not sure if Melo would be receptive to a relatively young coach who does not have experience as an NBA player.

I don't think it's an either/or.  We can trade the PTE for Asik.  It cannot be used in a trade for Melo or Love.  I'm not concerned about Stevens coaching Melo or anyone.  He seemed quite capable last year.  If Melo is put in a position to succeed, he'll respond.

[Mikedmx6]

None of us are wrong, as you can see we all agree that ainge has a million options to look at. It ranges from massive trades or maybe even holding out for next free agent class and stock piling more picks.  Really, who knows but I say let's hope the finals end quick and we all grab popcorn and enjoy the ride.

[crimson_stallion]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4kugyz

Asik and green to Indiana
Lin and hibbert to Boston
Bogans and TE to Houston - waive bogans and go after melo

I don't really want Hibbert, but you know what? This is actually pretty good. It makes sense. Have to work out the specifics on how it could be broken into separate trades, but not bad.

I know this sounds crazy, 27 year old allstar center, but I totally agree. He has one of the lower BBIQs I've ever seen. It's crazy how slow his reactions are even if we're just talking rebounds, but his rotations in the playoffs this year were garbage. The league seems to have figured him out. Play a stretch 5 and Hibbert is useless. His averages for last season were (generously) 11/7/2. For $15M/yr that isn't good enough. Sullinger is statistically a much better player.

I'd rather have Asik. He makes less $ for less years and plays way better defense. I don't see why we'd take the lesser center who averaged 9/6/1 in 30 minutes of play when we could just cut Indiana out of the trade, get Asik and trade them Bogans + TPE for Lin/Asik. They get cap space this year, we get it next year. And we can keep Green or trade him to Washington in a separate deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lgyhmnu

With our #6 and the (unprotected) Brooklyn pick next year going to Minny and the Philly pick we got this year going to Houston. Minny will ask for another pick, maybe next year's LAC 1st, and I'd probably cave but they'd have to swap me Kevin Martin for Joel's contract.

Minny gets Sully + three 1st round picks and Houston gets Green, cap space and a potential 1st (likely 2 high 2nds).

Umm...Asik makes like $15M this year?  That's on par with Hibbert.  However Hibbert is a far superrior offensive player and, yes, a superior defender.  He might be slow, but his shotblocking ability creates nightmares for opposing teams. 

I totally understand the desire to add Asik's skill set to the team, but only if he could be had for a decent price - anything above about $7m-$8m for Asik is horribly overpaying for such a one dimensional guy who is such a major liability on offense.  If we could get Asik for that type of money then I would entertain the idea, but for $10M+ no way...not worth it.  He's really just a rich-mans Perk and is a pure role player.

[knuckleballer]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p4kugyz

Asik and green to Indiana
Lin and hibbert to Boston
Bogans and TE to Houston - waive bogans and go after melo

I don't really want Hibbert, but you know what? This is actually pretty good. It makes sense. Have to work out the specifics on how it could be broken into separate trades, but not bad.

I know this sounds crazy, 27 year old allstar center, but I totally agree. He has one of the lower BBIQs I've ever seen. It's crazy how slow his reactions are even if we're just talking rebounds, but his rotations in the playoffs this year were garbage. The league seems to have figured him out. Play a stretch 5 and Hibbert is useless. His averages for last season were (generously) 11/7/2. For $15M/yr that isn't good enough. Sullinger is statistically a much better player.

I'd rather have Asik. He makes less $ for less years and plays way better defense. I don't see why we'd take the lesser center who averaged 9/6/1 in 30 minutes of play when we could just cut Indiana out of the trade, get Asik and trade them Bogans + TPE for Lin/Asik. They get cap space this year, we get it next year. And we can keep Green or trade him to Washington in a separate deal.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lgyhmnu

With our #6 and the (unprotected) Brooklyn pick next year going to Minny and the Philly pick we got this year going to Houston. Minny will ask for another pick, maybe next year's LAC 1st, and I'd probably cave but they'd have to swap me Kevin Martin for Joel's contract.

Minny gets Sully + three 1st round picks and Houston gets Green, cap space and a potential 1st (likely 2 high 2nds).

Umm...Asik makes like $15M this year?  That's on par with Hibbert.  However Hibbert is a far superrior offensive player and, yes, a superior defender.  He might be slow, but his shotblocking ability creates nightmares for opposing teams. 

I totally understand the desire to add Asik's skill set to the team, but only if he could be had for a decent price - anything above about $7m-$8m for Asik is horribly overpaying for such a one dimensional guy who is such a major liability on offense.  If we could get Asik for that type of money then I would entertain the idea, but for $10M+ no way...not worth it.  He's really just a rich-mans Perk and is a pure role player.

Asik makes $15m, but his cap hit is only about $8m.  We could get him just by using the trade exception and maybe the Clippers pick. Hibbert would be more difficult to acquire. 

[AngryAndIrritable]

Trade for Hibbert? We'd have to find him first. He went missing in the first round of the playoffs and hasn't been seen since.

We would end up drastically overpaying for a center who gets badly found out against any matchup that can shoot from distance.

[thedawg]

Ib4 "we're contenders with Love and Hibbert!!1!"

We gotta get Love first dont we? Sanders is a better option with whole lotta more upside than Hibbert and would come much cheaper in the sense of Bucks want him out which gives us an opportunity to load rubbish contracts on Bucks.

What we need is to get another pick between 4-8 and build from the pieces we get. I am opposed to sending our pick for Love as we might potentially be getting a very good player back.

I believe at #6 we are going to get a really good contributor in Gordon or Smart even Randle. In two years that pick will start giving back. Have faith.