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Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2014, 08:28:14 AM »

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Even with no promise to resign or opt in for 2015-2016 by Love the 76ers imo have more than enough picks to try to make a Love deal happen . They are not going to keep all their picks and try something big on draft night. Could be to try to move to the 1st spot or make a deal for someone like love

The winning organization might be a problem for them.   But I agree they can offer more picks and Noel.

Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2014, 08:49:08 AM »

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Take the 76ers off the board.  There is not enough talent there.  They are rebuilding with younger pieces and the draft pick will likely be a better fit long term.  (because Love wants to win and be in the playoffs)


The Cavs could be interesting but I just don't see them trading the number 1 pick overall for a single player. 


Both have the ammo to make a deal, but I think to beat a possible Celtics offer, they will have to offer more then they want.

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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2014, 08:53:15 AM »

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Take the 76ers off the board.  There is not enough talent there.  They are rebuilding with younger pieces and the draft pick will likely be a better fit long term.  (because Love wants to win and be in the playoffs)


The Cavs could be interesting but I just don't see them trading the number 1 pick overall for a single player. 


Both have the ammo to make a deal, but I think to beat a possible Celtics offer, they will have to offer more then they want.

If they draft parker with the 3rd, noel, love and mcw that is a decent looking lineup. Love might like it there

Close to making 8th

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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2014, 08:58:31 AM »

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Take the 76ers off the board.  There is not enough talent there.  They are rebuilding with younger pieces and the draft pick will likely be a better fit long term.  (because Love wants to win and be in the playoffs)


The Cavs could be interesting but I just don't see them trading the number 1 pick overall for a single player. 


Both have the ammo to make a deal, but I think to beat a possible Celtics offer, they will have to offer more then they want.

If they draft parker with the 3rd, noel, love and mcw that is a decent looking lineup. Love might like it there

Close to making 8th


But if they draft the third, they don't have the ammo to offer better then the Celtics 6th. 

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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2014, 09:02:35 AM »

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didn't the Wolves said if they lose Love, they would love to draft Randle or Vonleh. So, can we do a 3 way trade with 76ers, they give us their 3rd, we give them a 6th and they get Love.

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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2014, 09:16:09 AM »

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Yeah I agree with the above, I think you're underestimating the Celtics assets.

i'm not but there is nothing you can do when a few other teams can better your offer.  The Wolves will choose the best return they can get, not what the Celts feed them. They couldn't care less if Love signs or will sign an extension either.  If the Celts are not scared to give up assets extension or not, the 76ers won't be either imo

I'm not sure we'll get Love, but I think you're being naive as to how much control players and agents have in situations like this. Please rewatch the last few seasons:, Melo forces his way to NY, CP3 forces his way to LA, Dwight forces his way to LA. These players are dictating things behind the scenes.
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Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2014, 11:01:36 PM »

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I think the issue is who will give up the most for the ability to throw money at KLove in 2015/16. KLove isn't going to opt-in to the last year of his contract in 2015/16 if for no other reason than it's fiscally irresponsible. The real question is what will a team give up to have Love for 1 year and then be able to offer him more $/years than any other team. I think two 1st round lottery picks is probably too high a price for that honor, especially because Philly is in a pit of despair and KLove is tired of losing. Cleveland has no coach, fired their GM, have an all-star who is rumored to want out and have shown that they can be beaten even when dealt a royal flush. If those are our competitors then I'd call the Celtics front runners in a big way.

The great news for the Celtics is that have a winning culture. We have a leader and champion in Rondo, tons of financial and asset flexibility and a coach that is respected league-wide. We also have the best fan base of any team in the history of sports (end editorial).

I doubt Cleveland/Milwaukee/Philly offer their top-3 pick for an unguaranteed KLove. I'm not sure if I would give up a top-3 pick if we had one. Giving #6 is far less of a gamble and, because we have Rondo and a great coach, we have the leg up on resigning Love over either of those teams.

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« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2014, 11:31:10 PM »

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Even with no promise to resign or opt in for 2015-2016 by Love the 76ers imo have more than enough picks to try to make a Love deal happen . They are not going to keep all their picks and try something big on draft night. Could be to try to move to the 1st spot or make a deal for someone like love

What they could offer (principal pieces)

To Wolves: 10th pick, 32nd, 39th, 47th picks (pretty much all the 2nd round picks if they want), Thad Young + one of their many future 1st


The offer above would beat out ours of the 6th, sullinger and a future 1st

  I don't think it would, a bunch of 2nd round picks isn't worth all that much. The rest of the package favors the Celts, who could add in more future firsts if necessary.

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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2014, 11:36:29 PM »

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Take the 76ers off the board.  There is not enough talent there.  They are rebuilding with younger pieces and the draft pick will likely be a better fit long term.  (because Love wants to win and be in the playoffs)


The Cavs could be interesting but I just don't see them trading the number 1 pick overall for a single player. 


Both have the ammo to make a deal, but I think to beat a possible Celtics offer, they will have to offer more then they want.

If they draft parker with the 3rd, noel, love and mcw that is a decent looking lineup. Love might like it there

Close to making 8th

Love doesn't want to be "close", he wants to make the playoffs and make an impact. The 76ers while having promising talent, are unproven and may take years before they're any kind of threat in the east.

Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2014, 11:45:04 PM »

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The 76ers are big on exum and could possibly trade MCW, young and the 10th for love.  Alot to give up it looks like but not really. Young wants out , 10th is ok to give up bc u already have the 3rd . 

This offer would be too strong for the celts to compete with

76rs are not in line to keep all their picks/stay in rebuild forever. You can bet they will also be lighting up some fireworks on draft night

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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2014, 11:50:41 PM »

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The 76ers are big on exum and could possibly trade MCW, young and the 10th for love.  Alot to give up it looks like but not really. Young wants out , 10th is ok to give up bc u already have the 3rd . 

This offer would be too strong for the celts to compete with

76rs are not in line to keep all their picks/stay in rebuild forever. You can bet they will also be lighting up some fireworks on draft night

So you think Minny will trade Love for a mediocre 2nd year PG from a historically weak draft class and the 10th pick instead of multiple young big men prospects and better and more draft picks from Boston? Is that because you think they want a backup to Rubio so badly?

Let's assume that this somehow happens. Love would not re-sign in Phili, so why would the Sixers then do this?

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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2014, 11:52:53 PM »

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Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2014, 11:53:23 PM »

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The 76ers are big on exum and could possibly trade MCW, young and the 10th for love.  Alot to give up it looks like but not really. Young wants out , 10th is ok to give up bc u already have the 3rd . 

This offer would be too strong for the celts to compete with

76rs are not in line to keep all their picks/stay in rebuild forever. You can bet they will also be lighting up some fireworks on draft night

So you think Minny will trade Love for a mediocre 2nd year PG from a historically weak draft class and the 10th pick instead of multiple young big men prospects and better and more draft picks from Boston? Is that because you think they want a backup to Rubio so badly?

Rubio stinks. He has not shot over 40  percent yet in three seasons. He will get traded if they got mcw.

How do u know he will resign or not?  How do you know he will resign with us?? Like I said, if rondo is never the same, green is inconsistent and we dont make the playoffs. Then we r screwed
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Re: Cavs vs 76rs vs Celtics offer for Love
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2014, 11:57:03 PM »

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The 76ers are big on exum and could possibly trade MCW, young and the 10th for love.  Alot to give up it looks like but not really. Young wants out , 10th is ok to give up bc u already have the 3rd . 

This offer would be too strong for the celts to compete with

76rs are not in line to keep all their picks/stay in rebuild forever. You can bet they will also be lighting up some fireworks on draft night

So you think Minny will trade Love for a mediocre 2nd year PG from a historically weak draft class and the 10th pick instead of multiple young big men prospects and better and more draft picks from Boston? Is that because you think they want a backup to Rubio so badly?

Rubio stinks. He has not shot over 40  percent yet in three seasons. He will get traded if they got mcw.

I think you are highly overrating MCW, underrating Rubio, and desperate to make it seem that the Sixers have more to offer for Love than the celtics when all the facts are against that opinion.

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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2014, 11:57:32 PM »

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The 76ers are big on exum and could possibly trade MCW, young and the 10th for love.  Alot to give up it looks like but not really. Young wants out , 10th is ok to give up bc u already have the 3rd . 

This offer would be too strong for the celts to compete with

76rs are not in line to keep all their picks/stay in rebuild forever. You can bet they will also be lighting up some fireworks on draft night

So you think Minny will trade Love for a mediocre 2nd year PG from a historically weak draft class and the 10th pick instead of multiple young big men prospects and better and more draft picks from Boston? Is that because you think they want a backup to Rubio so badly?

Rubio stinks. He has not shot over 40  percent yet in three seasons. He will get traded if they got mcw.

What makes you think Carter Williams is any better? He shot a sub par percentage on a historically bad 76ers team.