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Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #105 on: May 22, 2014, 06:18:28 PM »

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I'll admit, the more I see the title of this thread, the more irritated I get.

Think in a minute I am going to start a thread to balance this out titled:

"Celts are getting Love, Melo, Aldridge, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Marc Gasol and Anthony Davis as a consolation prize."

I know.  If ko or sully avg 17 and 9 , wolves will then are likely to say yes to a trade (including the 6th).

When harden was avail , okc had different kind of offers. From high picks to promising yougg players etc. Instead they went with a package of martin, lamb and 2 firsts. To minimize the loss of production

Wolves are not rebuilding. If they were they would highly consider our offer. They signed pekovic, have dieng , muhammad, budinger, rubio etc. Already have enough young players. They dont need to get any younger and need to make the playoffs. So how is the trade with the celts going to help??


Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #106 on: May 22, 2014, 06:27:38 PM »

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Trade Rondo, add the number 6 draft pick and filler - that should get Love

Come on, let's get ready for the Summer of Love!

That would never happen. Minnesota doesn't need a PG and Boston  would be worse than the Timberwolves if we did that trade for Love.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #107 on: May 22, 2014, 06:31:58 PM »

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I'll admit, the more I see the title of this thread, the more irritated I get.

Think in a minute I am going to start a thread to balance this out titled:

"Celts are getting Love, Melo, Aldridge, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Marc Gasol and Anthony Davis as a consolation prize."

I know.  If ko or sully avg 17 and 9 , wolves will then are likely to say yes to a trade (including the 6th).

When harden was avail , okc had different kind of offers. From high picks to promising yougg players etc. Instead they went with a package of martin, lamb and 2 firsts. To minimize the loss of production

Wolves are not rebuilding. If they were they would highly consider our offer. They signed pekovic, have dieng , muhammad, budinger, rubio etc. Already have enough young players. They dont need to get any younger and need to make the playoffs. So how is the trade with the celts going to help??

  They have plenty of young players but no young stars. They don't want to rebuild, but without Love the options are rebuild or add some vets that will help them top out at a 7th seed or so. That will seem less appetizing when it's staring them in the face.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #108 on: May 22, 2014, 06:46:21 PM »

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I'll admit, the more I see the title of this thread, the more irritated I get.

Think in a minute I am going to start a thread to balance this out titled:

"Celts are getting Love, Melo, Aldridge, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Marc Gasol and Anthony Davis as a consolation prize."

I know.  If ko or sully avg 17 and 9 , wolves will then are likely to say yes to a trade (including the 6th).

When harden was avail , okc had different kind of offers. From high picks to promising yougg players etc. Instead they went with a package of martin, lamb and 2 firsts. To minimize the loss of production

Wolves are not rebuilding. If they were they would highly consider our offer. They signed pekovic, have dieng , muhammad, budinger, rubio etc. Already have enough young players. They dont need to get any younger and need to make the playoffs. So how is the trade with the celts going to help??

  They have plenty of young players but no young stars. They don't want to rebuild, but without Love the options are rebuild or add some vets that will help them top out at a 7th seed or so. That will seem less appetizing when it's staring them in the face.

I get what you mean. But for the wolves even making 8th place would be a big accomplishment love or not right now. 8 years now without making the playoffs. Thats torture
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Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #109 on: May 22, 2014, 07:23:51 PM »

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We are not using Rondo in a trade for Love. The attraction for Love to come here is that he comes to a team that already has one all-star. If championship contenders need three all-stars, then, we are basically 2/3 of the way there. To those that don't think the Wolves are not rebuilding, this is a team that plays little to no defense and drastically needs an infusion of defense-first players. Players like Vonleh or Gordon would be an attractive start to remaking their roster. Including Bradley in the trade would also improve their defense.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #110 on: May 22, 2014, 08:04:25 PM »

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I hope so. I don't want to gut the team for Love. We already have a good team which needs experience and a little help on some positions (SF, SG, C).
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Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #111 on: May 22, 2014, 08:10:51 PM »

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I'll admit, the more I see the title of this thread, the more irritated I get.

Think in a minute I am going to start a thread to balance this out titled:

"Celts are getting Love, Melo, Aldridge, Lebron, Durant, Harden, Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Marc Gasol and Anthony Davis as a consolation prize."

I know.  If ko or sully avg 17 and 9 , wolves will then are likely to say yes to a trade (including the 6th).

When harden was avail , okc had different kind of offers. From high picks to promising yougg players etc. Instead they went with a package of martin, lamb and 2 firsts. To minimize the loss of production

Wolves are not rebuilding. If they were they would highly consider our offer. They signed pekovic, have dieng , muhammad, budinger, rubio etc. Already have enough young players. They dont need to get any younger and need to make the playoffs. So how is the trade with the celts going to help??

Disagree. The Wolves will not get equal return for a player like Kevin Love just like they didn't get equal value for Kevin Garnett.

What they can receive is young players on long-term, inexpensive contracts, draft picks and cap relief.

Celts have all of the above to offer.

Another team is not going to offer their star player for Love.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #112 on: May 22, 2014, 08:13:03 PM »

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I hope so. I don't want to gut the team for Love. We already have a good team which needs experience and a little help on some positions (SF, SG, C).

Ummmm no, not really. Celts were the 5th worse team in the NBA last season.

To all the anti-Love people, I will agree with you on this. Love probably will not singlehandedly bring us to a championship.

But it's a HUGE step in the right direction.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #113 on: May 22, 2014, 08:25:50 PM »

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Whats funny is some celts fans want love so much they believe the offer celts can make is a good deal

If ur the wolves gm and u were a big wolves fan u  would think otherwise.  I conisder lee and thompson plus a future 1st type offer 1st

Over at the realgm timberwolves forum there are literally 25+ pages of Wolves fans saying the Celtics trade is probably the best or at least giving it strong consideration....so....yeah
This + they really, really don't want David Lee.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #114 on: May 22, 2014, 08:32:18 PM »

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I hope so. I don't want to gut the team for Love. We already have a good team which needs experience and a little help on some positions (SF, SG, C).

Ummmm no, not really. Celts were the 5th worse team in the NBA last season.

To all the anti-Love people, I will agree with you on this. Love probably will not singlehandedly bring us to a championship.

But it's a HUGE step in the right direction.

Not as huge as you think. And trading away our young prospects and picks sets us back almost as much.

It's better to overpay a free agent than to trade away good young players and picks that don't cost much.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2014, 08:37:24 PM »

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I hope so. I don't want to gut the team for Love. We already have a good team which needs experience and a little help on some positions (SF, SG, C).

Ummmm no, not really. Celts were the 5th worse team in the NBA last season.

To all the anti-Love people, I will agree with you on this. Love probably will not singlehandedly bring us to a championship.

But it's a HUGE step in the right direction.

Not as huge as you think. And trading away our young prospects and picks sets us back almost as much.

It's better to overpay a free agent than to trade away good young players and picks that don't cost much.

But free agents don't traditionally come to Boston (at least not good ones.) You have to trade for them first, and then convince them this is the place to be, like with KG.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #116 on: May 22, 2014, 08:43:19 PM »

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I don't see why not.

For a team who's willing to trade their star (All Star), and start over, we have the chipS (emphasis on the S) to offer.

- Young but good talent/s that can develop into something better? Check
- Multiple 1st round picks? Check
- Salary relief? I guess it's a soft Check

Will that be enough? We'll see. But to completely dismiss the possibility of acquiring Love, wow.
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Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2014, 09:20:39 PM »

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What people are also forgetting is that Flip is the new GM. Who spent some time in Boston, who probably picked DA's brain about rebuilding, which may have gotten him the GM job in Minni.

People talk about GSW, but I've seen a couple times that Thompson wont be a part of the trade, and it's just Barnes, and Lee and filler. No way if they are rebuilding they want Lee. Wont win games, and cost a bunch of money for a couple years.

Cleveland and Philly has good picks, but no players to really move, and I don't think Flip will put Love in a bad spot. Looks bad as a first year GM if you don't care about players. It's a tough balance, and will have to think about the team first, but right off the bat, should look like they care about their players.

I think Flip and Ownership had a feeling Love would be out the door, he hasn't been that happy with the organization. Boston provides the best combo of what the Wolves need to get a good jumpstart in a rebuild, and if they loose Love it's most likely going to be a rebuild. 

Boston has Sully, AB in a S&T for a couple nice young players. Pressey,Jonhson,Babb,Bogans,Bass,Anthony and I think Fav for either expiring or non guaranteed  contracts. Boston could take on some contracts as well, which they have a lot of. Might be able to get Dieng if we can take on enough of them! LOL!

Oh and the TE from PP. You could do Picks and TE for Love, and then Sully and expirings for the other half. Kinda like the Nets trade. 

It's a reach, but not as far out as some think it is.

Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2014, 10:49:09 PM »

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If I'm Minnesota---and I can get Julius Randle, Zach Lavine, Jared Sullinger...a Future First Rounder, plus Salary relief---for Love (who is walking next season)---I'd be on the phone with Ainge right now.
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Re: We're not getting Love
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2014, 10:54:17 PM »

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Also, the difference between now and 2007---KG did not tell the Wolves that he was gonna leave...K.Love has, Wolves need to make a deal---they did not have to with KG.
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