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Rondo gone if no blockuster deal becomes available?
« on: May 21, 2014, 11:59:22 AM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 12:02:53 PM »

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I like the McLemore + #8 idea. Walking away from the draft with Smart and Vonleh would be a very successful draft, IMO.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 12:03:46 PM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 12:05:05 PM »

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I like the McLemore + #8 idea. Walking away from the draft with Smart and Vonleh would be a very successful draft, IMO.

Agreed. Hopefully, the young players develop, albeit through growing pains, and we have better look in the Okafor sweepstakes.

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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 12:08:08 PM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.

I do think Love is available, but the dillemma is if we aren't able to obtain him. What's Plan B in trading for a player and have Rondo re-sign? That's the problem. There really isn't. If we don't trade for Love, and let Rondo's contract play out, we are practially at his mercy. Not a position I care to be in.

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 12:08:46 PM »

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Well that seems kind of obvious, no? Not the Rondo bit, but the part about treading water another year.

What else are we going to do if there aren't any trades available? Come on now.

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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 12:12:24 PM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.

I do think Love is available, but the dillemma is if we aren't able to obtain him. What's Plan B in trading for a player and have Rondo re-sign? That's the problem. There really isn't. If we don't trade for Love, and let Rondo's contract play out, we are practially at his mercy. Not a position I care to be in.

Well I mean us treading water is pretty obvious. I don't know why the writers love to write things redundant.. Of course what else is Danny supposed to do?

I trust Danny Ainge. I trust that he has a Plan A, B, C, and D. If nothing else works out, then that was the best option.

I think Danny is making moves this year though.

The only problem is with all the media coverage, it really doesn't give people space to think and make moves on the sly. Danny is an expert at making moves on the sly though. He was able to trade Crawford to GSW without too much media exposure.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 12:15:53 PM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.

I do think Love is available, but the dillemma is if we aren't able to obtain him. What's Plan B in trading for a player and have Rondo re-sign? That's the problem. There really isn't. If we don't trade for Love, and let Rondo's contract play out, we are practially at his mercy. Not a position I care to be in.

Well I mean us treading water is pretty obvious. I don't know why the writers love to write things redundant.. Of course what else is Danny supposed to do?

I trust Danny Ainge. I trust that he has a Plan A, B, C, and D. If nothing else works out, then that was the best option.

I think Danny is making moves this year though.

The only problem is with all the media coverage, it really doesn't give people space to think and make moves on the sly. Danny is an expert at making moves on the sly though. He was able to trade Crawford to GSW without too much media exposure.

You're right, there was little media attention before AND after the trade because Crawford is quite average. The bigger the splash the more rumors will swirl.

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 12:19:48 PM »

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.

I do think Love is available, but the dillemma is if we aren't able to obtain him. What's Plan B in trading for a player and have Rondo re-sign? That's the problem. There really isn't. If we don't trade for Love, and let Rondo's contract play out, we are practially at his mercy. Not a position I care to be in.

Well I mean us treading water is pretty obvious. I don't know why the writers love to write things redundant.. Of course what else is Danny supposed to do?

I trust Danny Ainge. I trust that he has a Plan A, B, C, and D. If nothing else works out, then that was the best option.

I think Danny is making moves this year though.

The only problem is with all the media coverage, it really doesn't give people space to think and make moves on the sly. Danny is an expert at making moves on the sly though. He was able to trade Crawford to GSW without too much media exposure.

You're right, there was little media attention before AND after the trade because Crawford is quite average. The bigger the splash the more rumors will swirl.

Which is why it might create some pressure or unadded exposure that teams/GMs don't want.

I definitely see Ainge trying to capitalize on the Love sweepstake. I don't think anyone else can offer even offer cap relief, picks, and young prospects. GSW doesn't want to lose Klay, and Love wouldn't re-sign in Cavs imo.

Danny Ainge made an statement that he is confident Love will re-sign. That gives him plenty of leverage over most teams.
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I like the McLemore + #8 idea. Walking away from the draft with Smart and Vonleh would be a very successful draft, IMO.
Don't most people expect Vonleh to go at 5? Do you see Gordon moving up there, dropping Vonleh?

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 12:30:49 PM »

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I like the McLemore + #8 idea. Walking away from the draft with Smart and Vonleh would be a very successful draft, IMO.
Don't most people expect Vonleh to go at 5? Do you see Gordon moving up there, dropping Vonleh?

No, I think the consensus is 3 tiers...

Tier 1-
Wiggins
Parker
Embiid

Tier 2-
Exum
Randle (especially after strong measurements)

Tier 3-
Vonleh
Smart
Gordon

Obviously some teams could like Exum over Embiid or Smart over Randle, but I think this is the most likely consensus of how most draft experts rank the top 8. After that 3rd tier, that 4th one is one big tier. Really hard to seperate players from that group and the rankings indicate that. 

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I haven't read any of those drafts the same way.   As far as I've seen it's the first four,  then the next four. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 12:53:18 PM »

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I'm in favor of acquiring Love or Carmelo.  We have the draft picks to get it done.

That said, if they can't make a major acquisition, then they do need to trade Rondo.  He won't want to be a part of a rebuild and I can't blame him.  They should be able to get a top ten pick for him.

Smart seems like the most logical replacement for Rondo at number six.  Then Gordon, Saric, McDermott seem like the best options to me.  Plus, we have pick number 17. 

We'll likely be back in the lottery next year.  It will be a frustrating season to watch, but at least seeing the young guys develop will be interesting.

Next year, there are some good looking centers in the draft.  Okafor, Towns, Miles Turner, and WCS.  Draft Express has videos of Towns dunking... very impressive.  Hes 7 foot with a 9'5" standing reach, and already 245 pounds.  He has an outside shot and hook shots and surprisingly he's only ranked 4th or 5th in early mock drafts.  Okafor is listed ahead of him.  In other words, we should be able to get a good center if we're back in the lottery.

By the 2015/16 season, We would have a good collection of young guys and the Brooklyn picks to use to upgrade positions or add to the team.  It will be another frustrating season, but the patient route may be the wisest way to go.  That said I still want Love or Melo.

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Though it may be the last thing Celtic followers who went through this past season will want to hear, sources indicate the club is ready to go through another year of treading water if no blockbuster deals are available.

If that indeed is the case, then trading Rondo away is probably the best/safest choice. Going through another long year will be a hard sell in re-signing him.

T-Wolves are smoking that good good if they seriously think the Wolves can convince Love to commit to re-sign...

Nothing about the Wolves scream anything other than first round playoff exit.

Love is most likely on his way to BOS... If the Cavs/GSW don't wow the Wolves FO, I can see Love being sent here.

The Cavs and their #1 are tough to beat.  I saw someone saying we should offer Sully + Green + our #6 pick + #17 pick + the Clips pick for Love, which would granted top the #1 overall pick, but then why would Kevin Love resign when his starting SF is Gerald Wallace?  If Cleveland jacks the price up for these guys, then we'll have to just tank again next year. 

I think that we should get one of Gordon or Saric, get a Center and ride out next year.  With a healthy Rondo, one of those two guys (who are both proven winners) and Sully playing in position, we should be at least watchable.  Then, all of our bad contracts become expiring next year and we still have like 7 1st rounders in the next 3 years.  We could swing a deal much easier next year than this year, plus next year's draft is going to be better than this one.  Tanking sucks to watch, but I don't want to give up all our assets for a mediocre team because I was impatient.

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I like the McLemore + #8 idea. Walking away from the draft with Smart and Vonleh would be a very successful draft, IMO.

Agreed. Hopefully, the young players develop, albeit through growing pains, and we have better look in the Okafor sweepstakes.

I personally want in on the Karl Towns Jr. sweepstakes more...
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