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Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:17:53 AM »

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Alright I am pro-love its not often you get a chance to trade for an all star going into his prime at age 25. I can see love as the type of player that can have that Boston Connection. So here we go with my version of the Love trade.

Boston Sends- Jared Sullinger, Brandon Bass, Bogans, #6 pick, Boston unprotected 2015 1st, Nets 2016 top 3 protected.

Wolves Send Love. I think they look at Howard and Lebron and they dont want to end up like the magic and cavs, so they move him for the best package offered, which I believe will be ours.

Next move - BOS-PHI

Boston Sends- KO, Gerald Wallace, 17th pick, the right to their own pick back from the heat
Sixers send- Richardson, Henry Sims, 10th pick

For cap space that wont be used and a move down 7 picks the Sixers get KO who's passing and scoring ability would go well with this team, and he would be a perfect fit to go with Noel. This makes Young expendable for the Sixers. MCW-Wiggins-?-KO-Noel very promising start to the rebuild. For us we rid wallaces contract but lose a potentially very solid player in KO. The cap space will be used to finish the big 3.

Next move Trade #10 and #17 to Sacremento for #8 and pick whoever falls.
 

In the draft select Marcus Smart at #8.

Next Move

Send Jeff Green, and the 2015 clippers pick for Omer Asik (use the pp te to absorb the contract). I think Jeff fits this team as a good complementary star player that will be good as stretch 4 and backup the 2 and 3 for them. Gives them much needed depth, a plethora of possible lineups, a perfect complement to Harden, Howard, and Parsons, and they get a 1st round pick.

I think its almost a sure thing Melo is going to opt out now. If I did my math right with all these moves we made we should be sittin pretty at 36 mil in used cap space with Asik under the TE. Sign Melo to 4yr/95.9 contract. The opportunity to play with Rondo, Smart, Love, and Asik in Boston is to hard for him to pass up. This will be his best opportunity for a ring since coming into the nba. The first year of his contract will be 22.4 mil so that puts us at 58.4 mil. 2.13 mil for Smart. Puts us at 60.53.

Sign AB to his 3.58 QO puts us at 64.11 mil.

Sign PP to the MLE.

Fill out the roster with vet min signs.

2015 Opening Day (Contending!!!) Roster

Rondo-Bayless?(1yr/VM)-Pressey
Smart-Bradley-Richardson
Melo-Pierce-Johnson
Love-Dejuan Blair(1yr/VM)-Pierce
Asik-Blair-Fav-Anthonty

I think these players complement each other perfectly. Smart can handle the backup point if needed, with PP leading this bench we might be able to send out the Truth on a Farewell tour worthy enough for him. I think this is a 60 win team easily. Smart is one of the most nba ready rookies in the draft, we get 2 of the best if not the best 2 go to scorers in the game, with rondo dishing the rock and asik's defense in play, and you cant forget the truth is back in green, Things could look good in Boston again. I think this team could take Miami or Indiani in 7.

So tell me what you guys think!!! If this were to be our opening day roster in 2015, I would wear my green everyday for the rest of my life!! So seriously please tell me what you guys think, whether you think its realistic or not tell me I like feedback good or bad, I hate posting something so long and not getting a single comment on it lol.

GO GREEN  ;D



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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM »

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Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM »

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Quote from: bruinsandceltics on May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.

I think philly won't mind trading cap space that they aren't going to use to get a good young prospect in Kelly. Maybe add a future lottery protected first. Philly loves their picks.
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 01:31:25 AM »

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Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: bruinsandceltics on May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.

I think philly won't mind trading cap space that they aren't going to use to get a good young prospect in Kelly. Maybe add a future lottery protected first. Philly loves their picks.

Philly says no.

If Philly ever took that deal, Hinkie should be fired, and blacklisted from the NBA.

Face it. Wallace is unfortunately one of the most worst contracts to take on.
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 01:35:03 AM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on May 21, 2014, 01:31:25 AM
Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: bruinsandceltics on May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.

I think philly won't mind trading cap space that they aren't going to use to get a good young prospect in Kelly. Maybe add a future lottery protected first. Philly loves their picks.

Philly says no.

If Philly ever took that deal, Hinkie should be fired, and blacklisted from the NBA.

Face it. Wallace is unfortunately one of the most worst contracts to take on.

Depressing that trade is the key to it all really. What if you threw in AB at his QO. If they drafted Parker ab would be a good fit beside him MCW-AB-Parker-KO-Noel
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 01:40:46 AM »

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Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:35:03 AM
Quote from: Monkhouse on May 21, 2014, 01:31:25 AM
Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: bruinsandceltics on May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.

I think philly won't mind trading cap space that they aren't going to use to get a good young prospect in Kelly. Maybe add a future lottery protected first. Philly loves their picks.

Philly says no.

If Philly ever took that deal, Hinkie should be fired, and blacklisted from the NBA.

Face it. Wallace is unfortunately one of the most worst contracts to take on.

Depressing that trade is the key to it all really. What if you threw in AB at his QO. If they drafted Parker ab would be a good fit beside him MCW-AB-Parker-KO-Noel

Can't do sign and trades unfortunately either due to new CBA rules. AB wouldn't ever take the Q/O unless he believed that his injuries were just a hoax, and hes trying to prove he can remain healthy.
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 01:48:28 AM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on May 21, 2014, 01:40:46 AM
Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:35:03 AM
Quote from: Monkhouse on May 21, 2014, 01:31:25 AM
Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 01:29:21 AM
Quote from: bruinsandceltics on May 21, 2014, 01:24:40 AM
Well Philly would never do that trade. Ever. Unfortunately.

We aren't dumping Gerald Wallace unless we are paying a large sum.

I think philly won't mind trading cap space that they aren't going to use to get a good young prospect in Kelly. Maybe add a future lottery protected first. Philly loves their picks.

Philly says no.

If Philly ever took that deal, Hinkie should be fired, and blacklisted from the NBA.

Face it. Wallace is unfortunately one of the most worst contracts to take on.

Depressing that trade is the key to it all really. What if you threw in AB at his QO. If they drafted Parker ab would be a good fit beside him MCW-AB-Parker-KO-Noel

Can't do sign and trades unfortunately either due to new CBA rules. AB wouldn't ever take the Q/O unless he believed that his injuries were just a hoax, and hes trying to prove he can remain healthy.

That's a possibility no? He could earn a considerably larger and lengthier contract if he does stay healthy and improves his game.
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 01:48:48 AM »

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not a contender in my eyes

as long as allen wade bosh lebron are together
and hibbert george stephenson
this young to raptors who already got playoffs experienced
maybe bulls get carmelo
wizards coming back with experienced
and nets players all healthy
this teams are always contender to me

again pierce is resigning at nets with those money
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 02:49:23 AM »

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I don't understand why it will take so much to land Love.  IMO the #6 pick plus Sully (a guy who easily would've gone 6th if not for back issues) should be enough.  To have to throw in additional picks, just doesn't make sense. 

Love was the #5 pick, and also has an injury history (season ending knee surgery two years ago).  Sully's stats are not that far off from where Love's were after two years.

Don't get me wrong.  I know Love is better than Sully projects and likely better than the #6 this year, but he's not without warts.  He's a defensive liability and cannot play up-tempo.  To top it off, Minny is not really in the driver's seat here.  He's gonna leave, so they are desperate.  Why give up 3 or 4 assets that each might be better than Love in time (again probably not, but there's an OK chance that one of those assets would be - and we are talking about 3 or 4).  He's not KG.  He doesn't have that leadership ability, the passion, etc..

If Sully + #6 can't get it done, then forget it, IMO.

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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 03:01:57 AM »

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Quote from: libermaniac on May 21, 2014, 02:49:23 AM
I don't understand why it will take so much to land Love.  IMO the #6 pick plus Sully (a guy who easily would've gone 6th if not for back issues) should be enough.  To have to throw in additional picks, just doesn't make sense. 

Love was the #5 pick, and also has an injury history (season ending knee surgery two years ago).  Sully's stats are not that far off from where Love's were after two years.

Don't get me wrong.  I know Love is better than Sully projects and likely better than the #6 this year, but he's not without warts.  He's a defensive liability and cannot play up-tempo.  To top it off, Minny is not really in the driver's seat here.  He's gonna leave, so they are desperate.  Why give up 3 or 4 assets that each might be better than Love in time (again probably not, but there's an OK chance that one of those assets would be - and we are talking about 3 or 4).  He's not KG.  He doesn't have that leadership ability, the passion, etc..

If Sully + #6 can't get it done, then forget it, IMO.

I don't want to give up much more than that either.  I'd really like to see what Sully can do after a healthy offseason when he can work on his game and conditioning.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 03:11:24 AM »

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It's crazy how large of a descripancy there is on loves worth.
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Re: Post Lottery Offseason Moves to Build a Contender
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 03:37:05 AM »

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What if you traded melo for Deng instead. We could afford him buy using the stretch provision on Wallace. Rondo-Smart-Deng-Love-Asik with pp Bradley Blair and Bayless off the bench is still contender material.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 04:11:43 AM »

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I think :

1) Our #6 pick + Sully might be too much to give up for love.  Sully could easily become as good as love, so could Smart/Vonleh. 

2) Trading Green for Asik would be terrible.  Asik will earn far too much this upcoming season and is a major liability on offense.  Green is on a much more affordable contact,  is a two -way threat.  With Love and Asik we have one guy who is a liability on defense and one who is a liability on offence.  Not a good combination. Plus I think if we did have a scorer like a Love he'd draw a lot of defensive attention, leaving Green and  Bradley with a ton of space to score.

3) I don't think Sac would make that draft pick trade...I think one higher pick has more value to them.

4) Melo and Love makes me think of Melo+Amare.  that has the potential to be one really bad defensive lineup..
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Quote from: scotto1205 on May 21, 2014, 03:37:05 AM
What if you traded melo for Deng instead. We could afford him buy using the stretch provision on Wallace. Rondo-Smart-Deng-Love-Asik with pp Bradley Blair and Bayless off the bench is still contender material.

I don't think that'd even close to contender material.  Rondo cant shoot, Smart cant shoot, Deng is declining,  love can't defend, Asik cant score period.

That smells like 8th seed knockout to me.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 06:17:10 AM »

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Quote from: crimson_stallion on May 21, 2014, 04:11:43 AM
I think :

1) Our #6 pick + Sully might be too much to give up for love.  Sully could easily become as good as love, so could Smart/Vonleh. 

2) Trading Green for Asik would be terrible.  Asik will earn far too much this upcoming season and is a major liability on offense.  Green is on a much more affordable contact,  is a two -way threat.  With Love and Asik we have one guy who is a liability on defense and one who is a liability on offence.  Not a good combination. Plus I think if we did have a scorer like a Love he'd draw a lot of defensive attention, leaving Green and  Bradley with a ton of space to score.

3) I don't think Sac would make that draft pick trade...I think one higher pick has more value to them.

4) Melo and Love makes me think of Melo+Amare.  that has the potential to be one really bad defensive lineup..

People were saying the same crap about Al Jefferson and what was the Minnesota 1st round pick in 09 that ended up being 6th overall.

Guess what, they absolutely could become better than Kevin Love...odds are slim that they will.

Say what you want about Kevin Love but he is far and away the best rebounder in the league and he scores at will. He looks like he is going to surpass everything Dirk Nowitzki has done in his career and he is 25, not 35.

I'd trade Sully, #6, #17, LA 2016, Green for Love if we had to.
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