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Chalmers can really shoot the ball though, could in college too. Ennis shot isn't very reliable comparatively. Nor is he the athlete defender that Cole is.

I'm not sure who Ennis will end up being, hopefully for him his shooting will improve.

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Aaron Afflalo, Lance Stephenson, and Thabo Sefalosha come to mind.

If we're talking about the draft, I really like the sounds of Tyler Ennis.

Tyler Ennis hasn't proven anything except for taking a shot anyone else would've taken, and somehow making it. I think Ennis suffered from the one-itis, and will be exposed at how raw he is. Hes not even a quick point guard, which is the issue here. Hes going to be doubled a lot if he is our 'go' to scorer. I don't even consider Ennis a good prospect, and I think he'll finish outside of the lottery. I would be hesitatant to take on a one year PG that doesn't have the ball handling and speed to create space.

It worked for Mario Chalmers -- Ennis will probably wind up as this year's Norris Cole for Miami.

Ummmm.... You kind of forget one important thing. Mario is also playing with one of the best players who constantly demands doubles/triple teams on the daily.

I was actually talking about Chalmer's ridiculous buzzer beater when he was on the Jayhawks -- it's the only reason he was drafted in the first round, much like Ennis will be (probably).
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Aaron Afflalo, Lance Stephenson, and Thabo Sefalosha come to mind.

If we're talking about the draft, I really like the sounds of Tyler Ennis.

Tyler Ennis hasn't proven anything except for taking a shot anyone else would've taken, and somehow making it. I think Ennis suffered from the one-itis, and will be exposed at how raw he is. Hes not even a quick point guard, which is the issue here. Hes going to be doubled a lot if he is our 'go' to scorer. I don't even consider Ennis a good prospect, and I think he'll finish outside of the lottery. I would be hesitatant to take on a one year PG that doesn't have the ball handling and speed to create space.

It worked for Mario Chalmers -- Ennis will probably wind up as this year's Norris Cole for Miami.

Ummmm.... You kind of forget one important thing. Mario is also playing with one of the best players who constantly demands doubles/triple teams on the daily.

I was actually talking about Chalmer's ridiculous buzzer beater when he was on the Jayhawks -- it's the only reason he was drafted in the first round, much like Ennis will be (probably).

My mistake, and don't take offense if you did, I wasn't trying to insult you. I just think some people especially Bleacherreport try to justify how good of a PG Chalmers is, even though LBJ/Wade/Bosh are a huge reason why Chalmers is left open sometimes. From my perspective, Chalmers is a good shooting PG that can defend.

Chalmers can really shoot the ball though, could in college too. Ennis shot isn't very reliable comparatively. Nor is he the athlete defender that Cole is.

I'm not sure who Ennis will end up being, hopefully for him his shooting will improve.

I don't see Ennis doing as well. I think his mistake was not staying for college... He could've definitely been top 3 PG next year instead of a PG that people will always think of as inexperienced.

I think we would be fine with Kevin Love as our go to scorer, provided we surround him with other shooters and a big man to roll hard to the hoop with Rondo.

I think if we could do a sign and trade for Gordon Hayward, Greg Monroe or Lance Stevenson that could be a very good young trio to move forward and grow with.

I do too. But I think like every other fan; we would love some reassurance.

I think Gordon would be a nice piece on this team, considering Love/Rondo are also great passers for their positions. Ideally, I would love someone like Lance or Hayward, but Jazz isn't letting go of Hayward, and Monroe would be great, but defensively, we're going to suffer in protecting the paint.
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Aaron Afflalo, Lance Stephenson, and Thabo Sefalosha come to mind.

One of these Sefaloshas is not like the others, one of these just doesn't belong...

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Aaron Afflalo, Lance Stephenson, and Thabo Sefalosha come to mind.

If we're talking about the draft, I really like the sounds of Tyler Ennis.

Tyler Ennis hasn't proven anything except for taking a shot anyone else would've taken, and somehow making it. I think Ennis suffered from the one-itis, and will be exposed at how raw he is. Hes not even a quick point guard, which is the issue here. Hes going to be doubled a lot if he is our 'go' to scorer. I don't even consider Ennis a good prospect, and I think he'll finish outside of the lottery. I would be hesitatant to take on a one year PG that doesn't have the ball handling and speed to create space.

It worked for Mario Chalmers -- Ennis will probably wind up as this year's Norris Cole for Miami.

Ummmm.... You kind of forget one important thing. Mario is also playing with one of the best players who constantly demands doubles/triple teams on the daily.

I was actually talking about Chalmer's ridiculous buzzer beater when he was on the Jayhawks -- it's the only reason he was drafted in the first round, much like Ennis will be (probably).

My mistake, and don't take offense if you did, I wasn't trying to insult you. I just think some people especially Bleacherreport try to justify how good of a PG Chalmers is, even though LBJ/Wade/Bosh are a huge reason why Chalmers is left open sometimes. From my perspective, Chalmers is a good shooting PG that can defend.

Who takes offense over the Internet? No worries over here.

I think the best/worst thing about Chalmers is the fact that I'm positive he thinks he is, at very least, the second best player on that team. He's like a Chiwawa. A Chiwawa that plays with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh.
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Aaron Afflalo, Lance Stephenson, and Thabo Sefalosha come to mind.

If we're talking about the draft, I really like the sounds of Tyler Ennis.

Tyler Ennis hasn't proven anything except for taking a shot anyone else would've taken, and somehow making it. I think Ennis suffered from the one-itis, and will be exposed at how raw he is. Hes not even a quick point guard, which is the issue here. Hes going to be doubled a lot if he is our 'go' to scorer. I don't even consider Ennis a good prospect, and I think he'll finish outside of the lottery. I would be hesitatant to take on a one year PG that doesn't have the ball handling and speed to create space.

It worked for Mario Chalmers -- Ennis will probably wind up as this year's Norris Cole for Miami.

Ummmm.... You kind of forget one important thing. Mario is also playing with one of the best players who constantly demands doubles/triple teams on the daily.

I was actually talking about Chalmer's ridiculous buzzer beater when he was on the Jayhawks -- it's the only reason he was drafted in the first round, much like Ennis will be (probably).

My mistake, and don't take offense if you did, I wasn't trying to insult you. I just think some people especially Bleacherreport try to justify how good of a PG Chalmers is, even though LBJ/Wade/Bosh are a huge reason why Chalmers is left open sometimes. From my perspective, Chalmers is a good shooting PG that can defend.

Who takes offense over the Internet? No worries over here.

I think the best/worst thing about Chalmers is the fact that I'm positive he thinks he is, at very least, the second best player on that team. He's like a Chiwawa. A Chiwawa that plays with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh.

You'd be surprised  ;D

The funny thing is Chalmers has also annoyed Lebron to a point, where Lebron was pretty close to tomahawking him.
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You guys are foolish not to consider Kelly Olynyk. He's just getting warmed up, and could average 20 ppg this season quite easily. Once he got named to the All Star Weekend festivities he was the same confident player who dominated Summer League and college basketball, and he's only going to get stronger, and better.

This is part of why trading the farm for Kevin Love is such a bad idea.

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You guys are foolish not to consider Kelly Olynyk. He's just getting warmed up, and could average 20 ppg this season quite easily. Once he got named to the All Star Weekend festivities he was the same confident player who dominated Summer League and college basketball, and he's only going to get stronger, and better.

This is part of why trading the farm for Kevin Love is such a bad idea.

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You guys are foolish not to consider Kelly Olynyk. He's just getting warmed up, and could average 20 ppg this season quite easily. Once he got named to the All Star Weekend festivities he was the same confident player who dominated Summer League and college basketball, and he's only going to get stronger, and better.

This is part of why trading the farm for Kevin Love is such a bad idea.

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You guys are foolish not to consider Kelly Olynyk. He's just getting warmed up, and could average 20 ppg this season quite easily. Once he got named to the All Star Weekend festivities he was the same confident player who dominated Summer League and college basketball, and he's only going to get stronger, and better.

I am not seeing it.  He is a decent player with potential to be good but 20PPG is laughable.

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This is the choice of suitable candidates that can possibly be our go to scorers.

1) Lance Stephenson
2) Eric Gordon
3) Dion Waiters
4) Arron Affalo
5) Kevin Martin

Realistically I think we can grab Gordon or Affalo, and even Kevin Martin along with Love.

The question is if those two can remain healthy or put up similar numbers in their career respective years. If we obtain Martin, I don't know if we can honestly be considered worse or due to the immediate defiences of Martin.

Klay Thompson may be a possible candidate if GSW doesn't want to pay him, but they have clearly said before any decision is made; inking up Klay is their main priority before anything else.
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Olynyk shot 43% from 3 after the All Star break, when his confidence got the major boost that he needed. Check out Kevin Love's career 3pt %s: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html .

Give Olynyk more minutes and he can match Love's shooting percentages right down the line. FG%, 3pt%, and FT%.

KO's 3pt shooting post all star break opened up his dribble drive, which is excellent for a 7 footer, as are his ambidextrous finishing skills.

KO is 3 inches taller than Love, and that makes a huge difference too.

I'm not saying KO WILL match Love's points per game, but he's going to be a great scorer and we already have him on a super cheap contract. I'd take KO over Jabari Parker any day.

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What kind of Celtics fan sees a 7 foot rookie shoot 43% from 3 after the all star break and doesn't see a bright future?

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Let me ask the fellow blog users here, a very simple question.

If Love can't lead our offense, then who else could be our 'go' to scorer in the clutch? Obviously if we somehow obtain Love, we're going to need another scorer or guy that can take the tough shots too; to ease tension and pressure off of Love.

Does anyone else know any Allstars/Superstars that can be had for our assets, and be our go to scorer in the clutch?

The premise of this thread seems to be that Love is not a go-to scorer, which just strikes me as odd. Love is about as go-to as any scorer out there. There just aren't many guys who are automatic from 3 who also stand 6'10. Down the stretch, when you need a big shot, run the pick and pop with Rondo and Love. Or run horns with KO and Love spacing the floor, that's going to open up a lot of space for dribble penetration.

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This is the choice of suitable candidates that can possibly be our go to scorers.

1) Lance Stephenson
2) Eric Gordon
3) Dion Waiters
4) Arron Affalo

Why Gordon over Waiters?  From my perspective, Waiters is younger, significantly healthier and much cheaper, he's a better defender, and he's about equal statistically, but with room to grow.


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