I hate that Ray Allen just put the dagger in the Career of KG and P2

[cman88]

You SERIOUSLY believe that Ray Allen is going to be remembered more as a role player off the bench for the heat rather than being a big 3 on a boston championship team to win a championship?

that is just a rediculous statement. 

Thats like saying if in 10years Lebron is a role player on a team who hits a few big shots that helps the team get a championship he will be remembered more for that than when he was an MVP/leading his team.

That what he's best at, being a glorified role player coming off the bench. 

Seriously, I start to wonder why Doc didn't use Ray this way. He really excelled in this scoring 6th man role. Shortened minute also makes him more dangerous in crunch time.

Doc did in his last season here. and Ray didnt like it..

[Clench123]

You SERIOUSLY believe that Ray Allen is going to be remembered more as a role player off the bench for the heat rather than being a big 3 on a boston championship team to win a championship?

that is just a rediculous statement. 

Thats like saying if in 10years Lebron is a role player on a team who hits a few big shots that helps the team get a championship he will be remembered more for that than when he was an MVP/leading his team.

That what he's best at, being a glorified role player coming off the bench. 

Seriously, I start to wonder why Doc didn't use Ray this way. He really excelled in this scoring 6th man role. Shortened minute also makes him more dangerous in crunch time.

Doc did exactly that

[Fafnir]

Pierce's career isn't over.

Nope he was still effective in a lesser role and still wants to play.

KG looked pretty cooked, I'm sure he could get a contract even if the Nets can buy him out but I think he'll retire. But who knows....

[esel1000]

You SERIOUSLY believe that Ray Allen is going to be remembered more as a role player off the bench for the heat rather than being a big 3 on a boston championship team to win a championship?

that is just a rediculous statement. 

Thats like saying if in 10years Lebron is a role player on a team who hits a few big shots that helps the team get a championship he will be remembered more for that than when he was an MVP/leading his team.

That what he's best at, being a glorified role player coming off the bench. 

Seriously, I start to wonder why Doc didn't use Ray this way. He really excelled in this scoring 6th man role. Shortened minute also makes him more dangerous in crunch time.

Doc did exactly that

Right... He just wouldn't accept it here. Joker

[j804]

You SERIOUSLY believe that Ray Allen is going to be remembered more as a role player off the bench for the heat rather than being a big 3 on a boston championship team to win a championship?

that is just a rediculous statement. 

Thats like saying if in 10years Lebron is a role player on a team who hits a few big shots that helps the team get a championship he will be remembered more for that than when he was an MVP/leading his team.

That what he's best at, being a glorified role player coming off the bench. 

Seriously, I start to wonder why Doc didn't use Ray this way. He really excelled in this scoring 6th man role. Shortened minute also makes him more dangerous in crunch time.

Doc did exactly that

Right... He just wouldn't accept it here. Joker

and he whined and complained to the media airing out his dirty laundry like a baby

[Monkhouse]

Pierce's career isn't over.

Nope he was still effective in a lesser role and still wants to play.

KG looked pretty cooked, I'm sure he could get a contract even if the Nets can buy him out but I think he'll retire. But who knows....

KG is definitely cooked. Hes hanging it up, and if he doesn't, I'll be extremely surprised.

[Roy H.]

Pierce's career isn't over.

Nope he was still effective in a lesser role and still wants to play.

KG looked pretty cooked, I'm sure he could get a contract even if the Nets can buy him out but I think he'll retire. But who knows....

KG is definitely cooked. Hes hanging it up, and if he doesn't, I'll be extremely surprised.

I think you're probably right.  The Clippers are the only team I can see him playing for.

[Monkhouse]

Pierce's career isn't over.

Nope he was still effective in a lesser role and still wants to play.

KG looked pretty cooked, I'm sure he could get a contract even if the Nets can buy him out but I think he'll retire. But who knows....

KG is definitely cooked. Hes hanging it up, and if he doesn't, I'll be extremely surprised.

I think you're probably right.  The Clippers are the only team I can see him playing for.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't KG have bone spurs last year? I don't remember reading anything saying he was going to get treatment.

[bdm860]

KG needs to pull a PJ Brown or Rasheed Wallace.

Retire, take a buy out, whatever.  Sit out half a year to a year.  Wait till late February March, find a contender that could use your services for 10-15mpg a night on a non-every day basis.

Wouldn't mind seeing that, even if he is just a shell of his former self.  I love seeing his intensity on the court, even if it is just for a few minutes.  The day the NBA loses that will definitely be a sad day.


And speaking of Ray, saw this over on reddit:

[j804]

Pierce's career isn't over.

Nope he was still effective in a lesser role and still wants to play.

KG looked pretty cooked, I'm sure he could get a contract even if the Nets can buy him out but I think he'll retire. But who knows....

I hope he retires pains me to see KG deteriorating like that

[Celtics4ever]

Ray Allen = Sauron of the NBA.   A ringchaser....

[notthebowler]

And speaking of Ray, saw this over on reddit:

At first I was going on the presumption that the percentages were % pure evil.  The order made complete sense, but then I saw the field goal totals in the right column...

[GreenFaith1819]

Lol, no.

Whatever Ray Allen does/doesn't do in MIA has zero bearing whatsoever on the illustrious careers of KG and Paul Pierce.

KG and Paul, by agreeing to be traded to BKN - helped BOS big-time.

KG is a hero even in Minny, to this day. So far, he has STILL taken Minny farther than anyone else.

Paul Pierce slowly built his legacy even before KG/Ray got to BOS....he NEVER demanded to be traded....never complained about getting help...."IF" he did, he did it in a classy way. I compared his and Kobe's way of doing things in the mid-2000's and they were definitely different....same results (getting the talent they needed) but different.

Paul Pierce and Toine led those entertaining (but overmatched) BOS teams of the early 2000's.

Paul Pierce almost passed from us...was stabbed...



And AFTER his stabbing, he came back that next season and played ALL 82 games.

This poster should research the illustrious careers of KG and Paul and then re-think whether a Ray Allen dagger can puncture it.

Their HOF tickets are punched...1st Ballot.

In spite of how Ray Allen left BOS - I hope he gets 1st ballot, too. He was the reason KG even agreed to come to BOS, and he was definitely a core member of the Trio that was successful in BOS between 07-12.

[LarBrd33]

Ray just continues to move up the hall of fame pyramid.  Is there any doubt that he made the best decision?  I mean, seriously.  I have absolutely no bad blood towards Ray.   He lost his role to Avery Bradley on a mediocre .500 team that was inching very close to irrelevance.  Half the fanbase wanted to trade him anyways.  Boston DID trade him to Memphis, but the deal fell through.  The Celtics had no loyalty to Ray... so why would he have loyalty to the Celtics?  Within a year we saw KG, Paul and Doc all leave too.  Ray still clearly had skills to give to a contender... so he went to a contender.   So far everything he's done over the past two years in Miami has just vindicated his choice.   He hit the biggest 3-pointer in playoffs history last year... this year he's a key contributor on a team that is contending for a championship.   Kudos to you Ray.  Thanks for helping us win a title.

The bad blood comes from people who mistakenly believed Ray bailed on a Boston contender for a "rival".   It's nonsense.  Our time was already over.  Ray saw it before most of the fans did.   The fact that we happened to meet Miami in the playoffs twice didn't really matter.

  Ray's in the HOF, but he's just a role player hanging on the coattails of superstars. He hit a big 3 in game 6 last year (doubt that was the "biggest ever") and followed that up with a goose egg in game 7. Part of the bad blood comes from his going to Miami, much of it comes from the glimpse at what a petty diva he seems to be.

He's just as important to that Miami team as James Posey was to our 2008 team.  He's a role player, but he's an important role player. 

In SImmons "Book of Basketball", he had Ray ranked #62 in his Hall of Fame pyramid... just one ahead of Reggie Miller at #63.  Winning two titles in Miami would probably inch him up even more.

[greg683x]

Ray just continues to move up the hall of fame pyramid.  Is there any doubt that he made the best decision?  I mean, seriously.  I have absolutely no bad blood towards Ray.   He lost his role to Avery Bradley on a mediocre .500 team that was inching very close to irrelevance.  Half the fanbase wanted to trade him anyways.  Boston DID trade him to Memphis, but the deal fell through.  The Celtics had no loyalty to Ray... so why would he have loyalty to the Celtics?  Within a year we saw KG, Paul and Doc all leave too.  Ray still clearly had skills to give to a contender... so he went to a contender.   So far everything he's done over the past two years in Miami has just vindicated his choice.   He hit the biggest 3-pointer in playoffs history last year... this year he's a key contributor on a team that is contending for a championship.   Kudos to you Ray.  Thanks for helping us win a title.

The bad blood comes from people who mistakenly believed Ray bailed on a Boston contender for a "rival".   It's nonsense.  Our time was already over.  Ray saw it before most of the fans did.   The fact that we happened to meet Miami in the playoffs twice didn't really matter.

It's like when people get mad at David West for choosing Indiana over Boston. Ray made the right decision and he will be remembered more in his 2 years with the Heat than he will in Boston. Helping the Heat to a title last year and this year is going to be enough to have his number retired there. Pat Riley is the best exec in sports period.

You SERIOUSLY believe that Ray Allen is going to be remembered more as a role player off the bench for the heat rather than being a big 3 on a boston championship team to win a championship?

that is just a rediculous statement. 

Thats like saying if in 10years Lebron is a role player on a team who hits a few big shots that helps the team get a championship he will be remembered more for that than when he was an MVP/leading his team.

youre comparing Lebron in his prime to Ray Allen in his prime??   Before Ray Allen made it to the celtics to win a title in 2008, he'd only been to the playoffs 4 years out of 12 in his NBA career.

Lebron made it in the playoffs 6 years out of 8 with two finals appearances and winning MVP trophies before winning his first title 2 seasons ago.

Comparing those two is the real ridiculous statement.  Rays been on 4 different NBA teams now, and besides the personal 3pt shooting accomplishment hes been the 3rd banana at best when it came to any kind of team success in his career.