If Rondo is traded, would you mind bringing back Ray Allen for next season?

[Eja117]

yes or no?

If Kate Upton was looking for a date would you mind taking her out?  Yes or No.

And what does Rondo being traded have anything to do with Ray Allen?  Does not compute.

what does that have to do with rondo being traded or not?

LOL, exactly what I was thinking!!

I can't believe that this is a topic of discussion with all due respect. The only reason to ever mention Allen, Pierce and Garnett is in a debate about which numbers should be retired. The Celtics are trying to build a team of 20 somethings that can be a deep playoff team for an extended period of time. Think younger please.

We have Bingo!  This is the same guy who suggested we trade 2 1st round picks and salary filler for Pau Gasol and the corpse of Steve Nash.

I wouldn't want to take out Kate Upton. No need to lower my average

[manl_lui]

trading a star to bring back an old guy who probably has 2 more seasons left in the tank at most? No thanks

[BballTim]

I say Ray, KG and Paul are all welcome back. 

  Must be another heck of a draft next year, chock full of franchise cornerstones. Tank city again?

That comment don't make no sense, Tim.  Boston was on a 16 win pace with Rondo leading the charge this season.  Last i checked, KG and Pierce are playing in the 2nd round of the playoffs.  Pierce would still be this team's best scorer.  KG would still be this team's best defensive player.  Ray has been a consistent bench performer for 2 years... he's averaging 16 points in the second round.   

  This post reminds me of your predictions of how the Steve Nash Lakers were strong title contenders.  PP is more efficient, but he doesn't score any more than Bradley or Green. KG might be our best defensive big but he only plays 20 minutes a game and on offense he scores about like Rondo did when he was coming back from a knee injury. Ray averaged less than 10 ppg a season this year. Oh, and none of them are going to be as good next year as they were this year.

The Nash/Kobe/Howard trio was pretty dangerous on paper.  I'm glad they didn't live up to their potential

  It was dangerous on paper if you didn't really notice the effect that aging had on the players and didn't consider the consequences of putting 4 players in their mid-late 30s on the court at the court at the same time.

I think if anything, this season proved that without KG and Pierce, we were a bottom 5 team.   Obviously as they older they get worse.  I'm not saying we'd be title contenders with them.  I'm saying that if we made some splashy trades, filled some holes enough to be a playoff team... Pierce and Ray would look nice on our bench...

  Frankly this season (or even last season) didn't prove much of anything. Last year's team was horribly uneven on many levels. The team was extremely inconsistent, we were integrating new players, we had plenty of injuries and our defense was bottom 10 some months and top 5 others. Same with this season. The team got off to a decent start (when many teams were floundering. The team's season went south in December. You really can't draw any meaningful conclusions after that.

And I agree with you that we had guys who had more points than Pierce this year, but Pierce remained the more efficient/better scorer this season.  Had he stayed in Boston, he'd more than likely have lead us in points again.

  I doubt he'd have gotten the minutes to lead the team in scoring.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

nope. makes no sense. he is not a young guy we would develop nor is he a star to help us win a title anymore.

[gpap]

Why would Ray come back and if we traded rondo why would Ray be his replacement?

Because it sounds like Ray's biggest source of tension with the Celts were his issues with Rondo and DA's attempt to deal him on numerous occasions.

Also, IMO, I think many are misreading the whole Ray Allen situation. It doesn't really seem to me like he really burned any bridges. I mean, he expressed some disappointment with some of the things that happened during this his time in Boston.

That said, I am really not sure what Ray did or didn't do that would ever preclude the Celts from resigning him.

He was a free agent, and chose to play in Miami instead of Boston. I probably would've done the same thing if I were him.

And after the Celts signed Jason Terry, it became more apparent that Ray was going to have an even more reduced role with the team.

Anyway, I'd take him back.

To me, age doesn't really matter as long as you can still play.

I know Doc and KG seemed disappointed with Ray's decision to play in Miami, but last time I checked, Doc and KG are no longer on the Celtics.

[pearljammer10]

Why would Ray come back and if we traded rondo why would Ray be his replacement?

Because it sounds like Ray's biggest source of tension with the Celts were his issues with Rondo and DA's attempt to deal him on numerous occasions.

Also, IMO, I think many are misreading the whole Ray Allen situation. It doesn't really seem to me like he really burned any bridges. I mean, he expressed some disappointment with some of the things that happened during this his time in Boston.

That said, I am really not sure what Ray did or didn't do that would ever preclude the Celts from resigning him.

He was a free agent, and chose to play in Miami instead of Boston. I probably would've done the same thing if I were him.

And after the Celts signed Jason Terry, it became more apparent that Ray was going to have an even more reduced role with the team.

Anyway, I'd take him back.

To me, age doesn't really matter as long as you can still play.

I know Doc and KG seemed disappointed with Ray's decision to play in Miami, but last time I checked, Doc and KG are no longer on the Celtics.

Great.

That still doesn't answer the questions as to why would Ray come back to a team that most likely won't be contending next year. And if we did trade Rondo, who yes was the source of tension, why would we want Ray as our replacement for a top 5 PG in the league?

If we miraculously make a rebuilding turn around and Ray wanted to come back and it was mutual...Sure, sign him, I agree age doesn't matter if you can still ball. But why wouldn't Ray go to another team with a better shot at contention.

[gpap]

Why would Ray come back and if we traded rondo why would Ray be his replacement?

Because it sounds like Ray's biggest source of tension with the Celts were his issues with Rondo and DA's attempt to deal him on numerous occasions.

Also, IMO, I think many are misreading the whole Ray Allen situation. It doesn't really seem to me like he really burned any bridges. I mean, he expressed some disappointment with some of the things that happened during this his time in Boston.

That said, I am really not sure what Ray did or didn't do that would ever preclude the Celts from resigning him.

He was a free agent, and chose to play in Miami instead of Boston. I probably would've done the same thing if I were him.

And after the Celts signed Jason Terry, it became more apparent that Ray was going to have an even more reduced role with the team.

Anyway, I'd take him back.

To me, age doesn't really matter as long as you can still play.

I know Doc and KG seemed disappointed with Ray's decision to play in Miami, but last time I checked, Doc and KG are no longer on the Celtics.

Great.

That still doesn't answer the questions as to why would Ray come back to a team that most likely won't be contending next year. And if we did trade Rondo, who yes was the source of tension, why would we want Ray as our replacement for a top 5 PG in the league?

If we miraculously make a rebuilding turn around and Ray wanted to come back and it was mutual...Sure, sign him, I agree age doesn't matter if you can still ball. But why wouldn't Ray go to another team with a better shot at contention.

1.)Who said we are not going to be contending?

2.)If I read the title of this thread correctly, the question isn't would you want Ray Allen to replace Rondo. The title of the thread is, if Rondo is dealt (and assuminly Ainge picks up another PG either in a Rondo deal or some other way), then would you want Ray Allen back?

I agree, that I don't think he comes back here. However, if by some slim chance, there was some mutual interest between Ray and Ainge, I don't think a return is that far-fetched.

[pearljammer10]

Why would Ray come back and if we traded rondo why would Ray be his replacement?

Because it sounds like Ray's biggest source of tension with the Celts were his issues with Rondo and DA's attempt to deal him on numerous occasions.

Also, IMO, I think many are misreading the whole Ray Allen situation. It doesn't really seem to me like he really burned any bridges. I mean, he expressed some disappointment with some of the things that happened during this his time in Boston.

That said, I am really not sure what Ray did or didn't do that would ever preclude the Celts from resigning him.

He was a free agent, and chose to play in Miami instead of Boston. I probably would've done the same thing if I were him.

And after the Celts signed Jason Terry, it became more apparent that Ray was going to have an even more reduced role with the team.

Anyway, I'd take him back.

To me, age doesn't really matter as long as you can still play.

I know Doc and KG seemed disappointed with Ray's decision to play in Miami, but last time I checked, Doc and KG are no longer on the Celtics.

Great.

That still doesn't answer the questions as to why would Ray come back to a team that most likely won't be contending next year. And if we did trade Rondo, who yes was the source of tension, why would we want Ray as our replacement for a top 5 PG in the league?

If we miraculously make a rebuilding turn around and Ray wanted to come back and it was mutual...Sure, sign him, I agree age doesn't matter if you can still ball. But why wouldn't Ray go to another team with a better shot at contention.

1.)Who said we are not going to be contending?

2.)If I read the title of this thread correctly, the question isn't would you want Ray Allen to replace Rondo. The title of the thread is, if Rondo is dealt (and assuminly Ainge picks up another PG either in a Rondo deal or some other way), then would you want Ray Allen back?

I agree, that I don't think he comes back here. However, if by some slim chance, there was some mutual interest between Ray and Ainge, I don't think a return is that far-fetched.

Fair. In that case I would have to agree.

[slamtheking]

what would be the point of bringing Ray back?  The Rondo-leaving reasoning in nonsense.

Ray's chasing rings and is at the end of his career.  The C's are looking to improve to a playoff/team contender with a long term view.  how does Ray returning accomplish that?

it's certainly not for a sentimental reason.  he jumped ship for money and security and was the weakest link of the 'big 3' which is why Danny was always shopping him for an improved player