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Greg Monroe: Is he big 3 material?
« on: May 01, 2014, 11:36:10 AM »

Offline jade88

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Should/could Monroe be one of our best 3 players moving forward if we could acquire?


If we could pair him with an athletic shot blocking PF, we might have something special imo.

Re: Greg Monroe: Is he big 3 material?
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Should/could Monroe be one of our best 3 players moving forward if we could acquire?


If we could pair him with an athletic shot blocking PF, we might have something special imo.

I like Monroe, because despite Drummond/Smith, there is a huge vast amount of basketball IQ that Monroe has; that towers over the two.

Hes a great passer, isn't a great defender, but uses his length/body to at least alter shots, and he has a great POST game. Absolutely great how he works defenders inside, and doesn't try to do anything flashy.

That being said, I don't consider Monroe Big 3 material.

Who knows if he could be, but right now I wouldn't consider him. You would have to bank on him fulfilling his full potential, and see if the reason his numbers are low based on having two big men gobbling his boards, and taking away his shots.
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Re: Greg Monroe: Is he big 3 material?
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You don't need a big 3 to win a title.  Dallas had a big 1, the Lakers had a big 2.  Going back further than that the Lakers were a big 2, San An was a big 1 with solid supporting cast, the Bulls 6 titles were a big 2, the first Miami was a big 2, etc.  Just because Boston and Miami are big 3's it doesn't mean that is all anyone needs.  I mean San Antonio made the finals last year as a pretty solid overall collective without a lot of tiers (though Parker and Duncan were obviously the most valuable players on the team). 

What you do need, except for a few rare cases, is one of the so-called Gold Medal Superstars (even ones past their prime, like the aforementioned Duncan, like Lebron, Kobe, Garnett, Shaq).  If you don't have one of them, then you aren't going to realistically win a title (except in very rare circumstances).  Greg Monroe is not a gold medal superstar, but he is a very nice player that could easily be a 35+ minute starter on a title team, you had just better find the gold medal superstar before you go signing him.
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A pretty great third option.

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What's Greg Monroe at his full potential? Al Jefferson maybe? Less more?
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I have no idea how good Monroe could be if he was out of Detroit's toxic bullcrap and that timeshare with Drummond. I hope we get to find out though, because I'd say with a punch in the arm and a complementary set of talent around him he's a 20-10-4(assists) guy easy.

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Keep in mind, most players (especially big men) peak between ages 23 and 28. He is averaging 15-10-2 before even hitting his prime. We are talking about adding a player at our biggest positional need who could be averaging 18-12-4 for the next four to six seasons.
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He has the skills , everything needed to play great ....every night  ???

Would be interested to see what he could do under pressure

At a spot on a team that needed him in the lineup 35 minutes a game and starting .

I would welcome him on the C's .....but not as Center

Like to have Hibbert  at a Center and Monroe at PF

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Like to have Hibbert  at a Center and Monroe at PF

I think that tandem would enjoy a size advantage over most opposing frontcourts, but a serious disadvantage in terms of mobility.

It's a shame that at this stage of his career, it's still not conclusive what Monroe's position in the NBA will be. I think it's eventually going to be at center.

To return to jade's initial post, imagine if OKC had Monroe next to Ibaka.
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I would love Monroe and think he could be a part of a team's top 3 (although I agree with others that we also need a superstar). Before the year began, there were high hopes that he would make the jump this year. What happened is that he basically remained the exactly the same player he has been.

The Detroit big man debacle isn't helping him and I don't think everybody salivating over Drummond while tossing him aside is helping his confidence either. I know there were talks at CB a couple of months ago of Green and a pick for Monroe. I am not sure what his contract demands are going to be, but I would do anything in the 11-13 mill/yr, for sure. We need to start taking chances somewhere and a young center with Monroe's smarts, offensive moves, and rebounding is a good place to start. He may not make 'the jump', but I don't see him falling off a cliff either.

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I wouldn't mind trying to sign him in restricted free agency. 11-13 a year seems reasonable, if we could move Wallace's contract and get rid of bogans bass Anthony possibly fav, let Avery Bradley go, we could make a run at Gordon Hayward to play the 2 and 3 him and Jeff could interchange. That would potentially be a quite formidable lineup. With rondo you could help maximize the skills of all your players in, Monroe and Hayward you could have 2 guys we can still grow leaps and bounds, Jeff is not longer the focal point of the defense he would more than likely improve, not to mention the improvement of Sullinger and KO, add in a high lottery pick Gordon? and a defensive minded center Biyombo? That would be a great rotation.

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Monroe, KO, Biyombo?

I'm sure a pick will have to be attached to the Wallace move but if we could get that roster on the floor I think that could easily be a possible contender sooner than later. Not sure if you could afford this because of the salary you'd bring back from trades, we could use out T/E I believe to help with this maybe stretch provision on Wallace, but if it would be possible id do it in a heartbeat.
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Could we trade Jeff Green a future protected draft pick for him?  That way Josh Smith could slide into power forward role, and Green could play small forward for them.  Only do this if we draft a small forward this summer (Wiggins or Gordon or Saric or McDermott).

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a team with him as a top-3 player won't win the title unless that team has Lebron or Durant on it.

decent enough player, as a PF.  hasn't been spectacular but should be a solid player on a good team. 

thing is, we already have Sully and KO that are a lot cheaper right now and provide about the same production.

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If we can add Monroe in a sign and trade, then we end up winning the lottery and Parker, Wiggins, or Embiid ends up as a top 10 player. Then yes Monroe, Rondo and draft pick could end up as big 3 material.
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I think Monroe can play a similar role on a very good team as Pau Gasol played on the late 2000s Lakers teams.  He's not as good as Pau was, but to me he seems to have a similar skillset.  He should be playing at center, however.
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