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Optimistic about adding a real center
« on: April 23, 2014, 09:26:06 AM »

Offline oldutican

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I see several reasonable opportunities for adding a center.
1. Landing a top 3 pick and taking Embiid.

2. 3 of the 4 teams with the best chance of picking in the top 4 (Bucks, Jazz & Magic) are set at center, but might take Embiid because he is clearly the best on the board when they pick. That could allow trading for any of these centers at a reasonable price: Sanders, Vucevic and Kantner/Gobert. Also possible is trading up with one of those teams for Embiid.

3. Others available via trade. Asik is the obvious possibility. Another is a deal with Minnesota for either Deng or Pekovic.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 09:43:02 AM »

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I see several reasonable opportunities for adding a center.
1. Landing a top 3 pick and taking Embiid.

2. 3 of the 4 teams with the best chance of picking in the top 4 (Bucks, Jazz & Magic) are set at center, but might take Embiid because he is clearly the best on the board when they pick. That could allow trading for any of these centers at a reasonable price: Sanders, Vucevic and Kantner/Gobert. Also possible is trading up with one of those teams for Embiid.

3. Others available via trade. Asik is the obvious possibility. Another is a deal with Minnesota for either Deng or Pekovic.

I would like Dieng/Asik.

I don't think the Wolves will get rid of Dieng though. They are going to need insurance in case Pekovic gets injurd again, and Dieng has proven to be a good contributor.
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Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 10:43:01 PM »

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we will see!
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Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 11:08:44 PM »

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Me too.

Gortat and Okafor are free agents and we have the TPE.  Asik will likely change teams and we have multple parts to shift around.  Iverson might come back from Turkey and contribute some backup minutes.  We might use our assets to lube someone else's deal and pick up a nice role player who fits better and complements well. 

Who knows, but I'm very hopeful, almost to the point of confidence, that we'll have a center rotation next year.

It would seem we're not even trying to win if we don't look to beef up that spot.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 11:12:37 PM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers. It is still very possible that if Embiid's back holds up to closer examination in workouts that they will still take him #1.
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Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2014, 11:33:22 PM »

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Besides drafting Embiid, I'd say our best chance at acquiring an impact center would be in the 2015 draft. 

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2014, 12:18:30 AM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers.

Is it just a suggestion by a sports columnist rather than an actual attempt?

Because I think I've seen the article in question and it seems more like the columnist speculating than actual intent.

I've seen some say a Henson/Sanders frontcourt is something the Bucks may be shooting for.

But, as always, if Sanders comes cheap, this fan is very interested.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2014, 06:15:58 AM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers.

Is it just a suggestion by a sports columnist rather than an actual attempt?

Because I think I've seen the article in question and it seems more like the columnist speculating than actual intent.

I've seen some say a Henson/Sanders frontcourt is something the Bucks may be shooting for.

But, as always, if Sanders comes cheap, this fan is very interested.


He can no longer be considered "coming cheap".  His cap space eating contract is the biggest issue.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2014, 06:26:00 AM »

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Thing is, unless the Celtics are going all-in to try and keep Rondo, it doesn't make sense to target any of the centers mentioned who are already 27 / 28 years old.  They'll be on the wrong side of 30 by the time the Celtics are read to be really competitive.

Personally, I think the best plan would be to find a veteran stop-gap solution at center for a year or two, ideally one who comes cheap.  This could be Asik, provided no significant assets need to be given up to acquire him, or it could be somebody like Emeka Okafor.

Then, the team can draft a project big like Jusuf Nurkic or Clint Capela, or wait for a future draft or free agency opportunity to find a long term solution at center.
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Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2014, 07:49:50 AM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers.

Is it just a suggestion by a sports columnist rather than an actual attempt?

Because I think I've seen the article in question and it seems more like the columnist speculating than actual intent.

I've seen some say a Henson/Sanders frontcourt is something the Bucks may be shooting for.

But, as always, if Sanders comes cheap, this fan is very interested.


He can no longer be considered "coming cheap".  His cap space eating contract is the biggest issue.

His contract is like 11 mil per year, right? Or is it 9?

As mmmmm pointed out to me in another thread, it's good value for a legit, young center (whether it's 11 or 9). It's basically Asik level.

I previously assumed it was 15 like Josh Smith.

Of course, his being an idiot makes it risky, and makes trading for him potentially "cheap" in terms of trade value and an actual attainable target in the first place.

I'm guessing if he weren't a headcase, they'd keep the crap out of him for 11 mil a year.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2014, 08:15:57 AM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers.

Is it just a suggestion by a sports columnist rather than an actual attempt?

Because I think I've seen the article in question and it seems more like the columnist speculating than actual intent.

I've seen some say a Henson/Sanders frontcourt is something the Bucks may be shooting for.

But, as always, if Sanders comes cheap, this fan is very interested.


He can no longer be considered "coming cheap".  His cap space eating contract is the biggest issue.

His contract is like 11 mil per year, right? Or is it 9?

As mmmmm pointed out to me in another thread, it's good value for a legit, young center (whether it's 11 or 9). It's basically Asik level.

I previously assumed it was 15 like Josh Smith.

Of course, his being an idiot makes it risky, and makes trading for him potentially "cheap" in terms of trade value and an actual attainable target in the first place.

I'm guessing if he weren't a headcase, they'd keep the crap out of him for 11 mil a year.

If he was playing like before last season, I would be just fine with his deal. 


But he didn't. 

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 08:23:05 AM »

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The Bucks were trying to move Sanders earlier this season but had no takers.

Is it just a suggestion by a sports columnist rather than an actual attempt?

Because I think I've seen the article in question and it seems more like the columnist speculating than actual intent.

I've seen some say a Henson/Sanders frontcourt is something the Bucks may be shooting for.

But, as always, if Sanders comes cheap, this fan is very interested.


He can no longer be considered "coming cheap".  His cap space eating contract is the biggest issue.

His contract is like 11 mil per year, right? Or is it 9?

As mmmmm pointed out to me in another thread, it's good value for a legit, young center (whether it's 11 or 9). It's basically Asik level.

I previously assumed it was 15 like Josh Smith.

Of course, his being an idiot makes it risky, and makes trading for him potentially "cheap" in terms of trade value and an actual attainable target in the first place.

I'm guessing if he weren't a headcase, they'd keep the crap out of him for 11 mil a year.

If he was playing like before last season, I would be just fine with his deal. 


But he didn't.

Yeah. But you could also chalk the bad season up to injuries and such.

Still, I agree. There's a lot of risk entailed.

The real question is, as always, how much will he cost.

Gerald Wallace plus a lesser first (like this year's Nets pick)? Probably. A Jeff Green swap? Why the heck not. Jeff Green plus a first? Eh.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2014, 08:22:38 AM »

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I see several reasonable opportunities for adding a center.
1. Landing a top 3 pick and taking Embiid.

2. 3 of the 4 teams with the best chance of picking in the top 4 (Bucks, Jazz & Magic) are set at center, but might take Embiid because he is clearly the best on the board when they pick. That could allow trading for any of these centers at a reasonable price: Sanders, Vucevic and Kantner/Gobert. Also possible is trading up with one of those teams for Embiid.

3. Others available via trade. Asik is the obvious possibility. Another is a deal with Minnesota for either Deng or Pekovic.

So if we were to list possible Center targets for trades:

Sanders
Kanter
Gobert
Vucevic
Asik
Monroe

And Maybe:

Deng
Pekovic

Personally, I don't want Pekovic, and I think the Wolves are probably very high on Deng (SP?) I think Kanter or Gobert would be better in a different situation... both are still developing, and both are still fairly cheap right now (cap-wise). Vucevic is probably not going anywhere unless Embiid is coming there way, and he will cost a lot. I see Sanders, Monroe, and Asik being the most likely targets. Bucks are not too happy with Sanders, Monroe is not needed in Detriot, and Asik is not needed in Houston; both are relegated to playing mostly out of position.

Who knows what we will end up with? But I imagine that Danny will knock on those doors first with the most interest, while keeping the other teams with possible available guys on the line as well.
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Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2014, 09:41:21 AM »

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I just don't see Monroe as a strong enough defensive center.

Re: Optimistic about adding a real center
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2014, 11:02:25 AM »

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I saw this guy for a full game only once....he's entered his name and most sites have him undrafted.....but as an UFA....Alex Kirk of New Mexico is worth a look.....game similar to Iverson's but more offense