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Offline Monkhouse

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Playing fantastic in the past few games after averaging over 15+ MPG.

Last game in 25 minutes while playing solid defense had a statline 5/10 FG, 12 pts and 11 rebounds, I forgot the team right now, but Gorgui Dieng is doing extremely well right now against the Rockets. Hes forcing hard shots, grabbing boards 9 rebounds in the first quarter, 10 pts, 1 assist, and 1 steal.

We should've picked this guy up too. A tandem of Sully/Dieng would be full of two smart big men who know how to pass, and hustle hard.
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He's doing ok against Omer Asik (D Howard is hurt).  All season long KO has done well. I'm fine with KO over GD

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He's doing ok against Omer Asik (D Howard is hurt).  All season long KO has done well. I'm fine with KO over GD

22 pts 21 rebounds 4asts and 5 of his shots got blocked but 3 of them resulted in FT in which hes 10-11...

That isn't just okay... This is an organization that can't develop talent... Going to the Wolves is a black hole... name 5 prospects besides KG who had McHale to fully develop them that actually thrived and did well?

If Dieng can ever get a place where they can develop talent like the Celtics, I can see him doing really well. Hes also quick and agile. In this day and age, you can't have slow bulky Centers... Dieng runs quick, is mobile, and knows how to pass out of double teams.

Also going to say Love isn't going to stay. If anyone thinks so are completely deluded... This team is terrible... Their one of the worst teams in closing out games, cause they can't defend. Simply put, they allow the worst defensive rating in clutch time..

Gorgui Dieng was a huge reason for the championship for the Louisville Cardinals... In the past 3 games where he has averaged above 30 minutes as a starter, Dieng has 3 doubles.
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I like dieng but he has ways to go before doing damage in the nba consistently. He has no left hand in either dribbling or shooting. He is 20 pounds of musle away and with his body type , it wont be easy to put on muscle

If danny wanted him he could of had him

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One good game certainly doesn't prove anything. KO has a lot of decent games throughout the season, which proves that he has a future for the celts.

KO also got more advanced finishing, passing, dribbling skills than Dieng, not to mention his higher BBIQ. I agree that Dieng is more athletic and probably has a higher potential on defense, but KO is also surpassing expectations of us fans with his improving defense and rebounding.

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He's doing ok against Omer Asik (D Howard is hurt).  All season long KO has done well. I'm fine with KO over GD

22 pts 21 rebounds 4asts and 5 of his shots got blocked but 3 of them resulted in FT in which hes 10-11...

That isn't just okay... This is an organization that can't develop talent... Going to the Wolves is a black hole... name 5 prospects besides KG who had McHale to fully develop them that actually thrived and did well?

If Dieng can ever get a place where they can develop talent like the Celtics, I can see him doing really well. Hes also quick and agile. In this day and age, you can't have slow bulky Centers... Dieng runs quick, is mobile, and knows how to pass out of double teams.

Also going to say Love isn't going to stay. If anyone thinks so are completely deluded... This team is terrible... Their one of the worst teams in closing out games, cause they can't defend. Simply put, they allow the worst defensive rating in clutch time..

Gorgui Dieng was a huge reason for the championship for the Louisville Cardinals... In the past 3 games where he has averaged above 30 minutes as a starter, Dieng has 3 doubles.
Donatas Motejunas went for 20 and 6 in that game. It doesn't mean anything

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He's doing ok against Omer Asik (D Howard is hurt).  All season long KO has done well. I'm fine with KO over GD

22 pts 21 rebounds 4asts and 5 of his shots got blocked but 3 of them resulted in FT in which hes 10-11...

That isn't just okay... This is an organization that can't develop talent... Going to the Wolves is a black hole... name 5 prospects besides KG who had McHale to fully develop them that actually thrived and did well?

If Dieng can ever get a place where they can develop talent like the Celtics, I can see him doing really well. Hes also quick and agile. In this day and age, you can't have slow bulky Centers... Dieng runs quick, is mobile, and knows how to pass out of double teams.

Also going to say Love isn't going to stay. If anyone thinks so are completely deluded... This team is terrible... Their one of the worst teams in closing out games, cause they can't defend. Simply put, they allow the worst defensive rating in clutch time..

Gorgui Dieng was a huge reason for the championship for the Louisville Cardinals... In the past 3 games where he has averaged above 30 minutes as a starter, Dieng has 3 doubles.
Donatas Motejunas went for 20 and 6 in that game. It doesn't mean anything

One good game certainly doesn't prove anything. KO has a lot of decent games throughout the season, which proves that he has a future for the celts.

KO also got more advanced finishing, passing, dribbling skills than Dieng, not to mention his higher BBIQ. I agree that Dieng is more athletic and probably has a higher potential on defense, but KO is also surpassing expectations of us fans with his improving defense and rebounding.

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According to Basketball-Reference, only 13 different players have recorded a 20/20 game during the 2013-14 campaign. And any guesses how many also recorded four assists during their monstrous outing?

Just three: Dieng, Jared Sullinger and Tobias Harris.

In fact, only 25 players in the past decade have managed to meet or top those numbers in the past decade, once more per Basketball-Reference.


He's averaged 14.7 points, 14.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.3 steals and 2.0 blocks per game when receiving the opportunity to corral the opening tip, and he's shooting 57.1 percent from the field.
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I liked Dieng a lot last year. Given it was a weak draft, he seemed like a pretty sure bet in terms of nice athletic interior defender. I'm down with KO, though. I think he's gonna be a good scorer for us and we need that too.

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He had 11 and 17 tonight against the Kings.  He is looking more and more like the real deal.

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I remember how many posters here were pining for him at the draft last year, but I also thought he was supposed to have some kind of knee problem. I'm glad he seems to be okay.

This article makes clear he's only getting a chance now because Adelman ran out of other big-man options. I wonder if it's possible that Vitor, who's an even older rookie, could have similarly been a revelation if he'd stayed healthy and Stevens had run out of bigs.

Re: Wish we could've gotten a pick in the first round to get Gorgui Dieng..
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Dieng was the guy I wanted in the draft last year.  Despite my bias towards him, I think he needs to develop a lot more before I consider him a solid NBA player at this point. 

I still think he can be a solid defensive center in the NBA but probably needs another 2-3 years to develop into a consistant season-long contributor.

wasn't thrilled we took KO over Dieng at drafttime but at this point I think we did fine.

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I remember how many posters here were pining for him at the draft last year, but I also thought he was supposed to have some kind of knee problem. I'm glad he seems to be okay.

This article makes clear he's only getting a chance now because Adelman ran out of other big-man options. I wonder if it's possible that Vitor, who's an even older rookie, could have similarly been a revelation if he'd stayed healthy and Stevens had run out of bigs.

I was probably one of the posters here that was vying for him or Shabazz. I know people here still don't like Shabazz, but in short minutes Shabazz did extremely well, and is the only rookie in the league that was a first round pick that isn't receiving any minutes... Even Robbie Hummel who is clearly worse, as he can't stretch the floor, nor can he even defend a fly if need be is getting 3-4 extra minutes... 30 rookies are getting more minutes than Shabazz....

The reason I don't like Adelman is that he is a huge reason for why the Wolves are in their situation as is. He isn't a good coach in terms of developing and making players play hard for him... He calls timeouts when they give up a 12-0 run, then sits some questionably hot players, and puts in weaker ones.

I don't know where you heard of his knee problems, but hes pretty healthy from what I heard.

Dieng was the guy I wanted in the draft last year.  Despite my bias towards him, I think he needs to develop a lot more before I consider him a solid NBA player at this point. 

I still think he can be a solid defensive center in the NBA but probably needs another 2-3 years to develop into a consistant season-long contributor.

wasn't thrilled we took KO over Dieng at drafttime but at this point I think we did fine.

I sort of disagree. I have stated countless times Dieng was the most NBA ready Center in my opinion, yes he needs 1-2 years to develop and get used to the speed of the NBA, but he can still clearly anchor the defense, and has done well so. I hope Adelman realizes Dieng is a viable back up and decent starting Center at best.

I still would have taken Dieng over KO, simply because Dieng is a smart basketball player like KO, but has the wingspan, and speed to play like Sanders.
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Re: Wish we could've gotten a pick in the first round to get Gorgui Dieng..
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I liked Deing in last year draft soley because he was the young, active, mobile, long rim protecting type center the Celtics have never really had the luxury to have in this era/generation.

I wasn't super excited about the Shabazz pick. And at the time was even less excited about the KO pick. Really wanted Dieng at the time but his age and lack of experience worried me and still do....

In hindsight I am happy with KO, I think he is going to be a good NBA player and am happy at his overall season production compared to a 3 or 4 game hot streak Dieng has provided.

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I liked Deing in last year draft soley because he was the young, active, mobile, long rim protecting type center the Celtics have never really had the luxury to have in this era/generation.

I wasn't super excited about the Shabazz pick. And at the time was even less excited about the KO pick. Really wanted Dieng at the time but his age and lack of experience worried me and still do....

In hindsight I am happy with KO, I think he is going to be a good NBA player and am happy at his overall season production compared to a 3 or 4 game hot streak Dieng has provided.

Kind of why I really wanted Dieng.

I never understood why people think Dieng couldn't been a great Center. Has all the tools to make up for it.

But we'll see. I'm hoping Dieng does well, I was a huge fan of him when I saw him play, and knew right and there we should have got him. But I trust Danny Ainge's overall judgement, so we'll see what happens.
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Re: Wish we could've gotten a pick in the first round to get Gorgui Dieng..
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Important thing to remember with Dieng:

He's already 24, and might be even older than that.
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