Rondo & Jeff starting to figure out how to play together?

[kozlodoev]

I think it means we have two out of the four core players to be a contender.

There's no such thing as "four core players". Contending teams typically have (up to) 2 core players -- an offensive and a defensive playmaker. Occasionally, the two are rolled into one. The rest is usually complementary (i.e. replaceable) pieces of various quality.

Unfortunately, I don't believe we have either of the core players we need.

I see your point to an extent. You basically describe the Kobe shaq lakers.

My point was that I feel if Jeff green or sullinger are on your team then they have to be your third and fourth guys at most. If either is your second best player then you probably won't win a title. Of course it depends then on how talented your top guys are. They can't be deng and Noah. But I think they could be rondo as your second and a player on a superior level then rondo as your first.

Oh, I get that point. My point was that if you have those first and second guys you're describing, then both Jeff Green and Sullinger are easily replaceable. Even Rondo probably is.

[CFAN38]

I think it means we have two out of the four core players to be a contender. Sully might be able to be that third guy. None are in my opinion that number one guy but they can be your 2-4. This assumes sully continues to improve.

It also means Ainge might be more willing to push all his Chips forward on the table to acquire a number one if he becomes available.

I tend to agree. I think Jeff is showing that with Rondo he can be a #2 offensive option on a solid playoff team.

Rondo and Sully should both constitute #3 options. If DA can find a way to add a center like Asik and even a lower end #1 scoring option Afflalo? Then this team is a solid 3rd team in the east behind Indy and Miami. In addition to this if AB can be resigned for reasonable then he and KO could develop into a great bench tandem.

[D.o.s.]

I think it means we have two out of the four core players to be a contender. Sully might be able to be that third guy. None are in my opinion that number one guy but they can be your 2-4. This assumes sully continues to improve.

It also means Ainge might be more willing to push all his Chips forward on the table to acquire a number one if he becomes available.

I tend to agree. I think Jeff is showing that with Rondo he can be a #2 offensive option on a solid playoff team.

Rondo and Sully should both constitute #3 options. If DA can find a way to add a center like Asik and even a lower end #1 scoring option Afflalo? Then this team is a solid 3rd team in the east behind Indy and Miami. In addition to this if AB can be resigned for reasonable then he and KO could develop into a great bench tandem.

Optimistic outlook on AB and KO, I think. Also, given the way Jeff Green's game comes in spurts, I think he'd be a safer third option then second.

[RJ87]

Green's not really been particularly efficient through this stretch.

I'm not necessarily looking at the stats as I am looking at how the play off of one another. Jeff Green has gotten much more attention from opposing offensives - I don't think him maintaining at 47-48% or higher fg percentage as the number 1 option this season was ever in the cards. We'd have an all-star on our hands if he was capable of being that efficient as a #1 option.

There was a long stretch where those two guys never played well at the same time.  That's changed.  They've had a handful of games where they have both played pretty well.

I think there's a difference between them playing at the same time and them playing well together. I think they've played very well as a tandem of late. Getting Jeff to move off of the ball has been the biggest change that I can see - Jeff used to have a habit of going to the corner and just waiting for a kickout pass. Now, he's cutting the rim and even running off of screens. It seems like he's making a more concerted effort to get open because he knows he can get the ball if he does.

I think Rondo and Jeff can be #2 and #3 respectively, we'd still need a legit 20pt scorer to take the next step. But I'm encouraged that they finally seems to be meshing.

[Monkhouse]

Green's not really been particularly efficient through this stretch.

I'm not necessarily looking at the stats as I am looking at how the play off of one another. Jeff Green has gotten much more attention from opposing offensives - I don't think him maintaining at 47-48% or higher fg percentage as the number 1 option this season was ever in the cards. We'd have an all-star on our hands if he was capable of being that efficient as a #1 option.

There was a long stretch where those two guys never played well at the same time.  That's changed.  They've had a handful of games where they have both played pretty well.

I think there's a difference between them playing at the same time and them playing well together. I think they've played very well as a tandem of late. Getting Jeff to move off of the ball has been the biggest change that I can see - Jeff used to have a habit of going to the corner and just waiting for a kickout pass. Now, he's cutting the rim and even running off of screens. It seems like he's making a more concerted effort to get open because he knows he can get the ball if he does.

I think Rondo and Jeff can be #2 and #3 respectively, we'd still need a legit 20pt scorer to take the next step. But I'm encouraged that they finally seems to be meshing.

Do you think a team of Affalo, Love, Green, Rondo, and Asik is a contender? I think those are all players we can possibly pick up.

Asik might be had if we absorbed the contract, and maybe traded someone like Bass+1st round pick for someone else.

The Magic might be interested in Bradley to back up as a SG or start, and if we add a pick and a second round.

Love of course would be the hardest one to grab.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

I m thinking it is a Rondo thing , more than a Green and Rondo deal

Rondo is starting really to learn his teammates under a NEW coach ,  with more flexibility .  It wasn't the same under Doc.....Greens role was different ..it all was different with PP and KG and Doc.

Rondo is figuring it out.....who does what , when , where and how the best .

Rondo puts the ball into Greens hands at the right times now .  Break the defense down and a just the right moment  make a play or put someone like Green in his best position to attack.

Romdo,is,like a fighter pilot at the controls using his weapons as he breaks the opponent down.

Beautiful thing really

TP

It really is nice to watch Rondo break down a defense.
They had some gifs on the main site which was showing him do that. As soon as a defender "commits" by leaning on the wrong leg it's over if Rondo sees it. That pic of Green looking like "calm down dude" to Rondos intensity is why Howard and Harden so the rumor was didn't think he'd fit on the Rockets......fine with me

I love Rondo. Danny and him need to work something out.

So yeah...TP

[RJ87]

Green's not really been particularly efficient through this stretch.

I'm not necessarily looking at the stats as I am looking at how the play off of one another. Jeff Green has gotten much more attention from opposing offensives - I don't think him maintaining at 47-48% or higher fg percentage as the number 1 option this season was ever in the cards. We'd have an all-star on our hands if he was capable of being that efficient as a #1 option.

There was a long stretch where those two guys never played well at the same time.  That's changed.  They've had a handful of games where they have both played pretty well.

I think there's a difference between them playing at the same time and them playing well together. I think they've played very well as a tandem of late. Getting Jeff to move off of the ball has been the biggest change that I can see - Jeff used to have a habit of going to the corner and just waiting for a kickout pass. Now, he's cutting the rim and even running off of screens. It seems like he's making a more concerted effort to get open because he knows he can get the ball if he does.

I think Rondo and Jeff can be #2 and #3 respectively, we'd still need a legit 20pt scorer to take the next step. But I'm encouraged that they finally seems to be meshing.

Do you think a team of Affalo, Love, Green, Rondo, and Asik is a contender? I think those are all players we can possibly pick up.

Asik might be had if we absorbed the contract, and maybe traded someone like Bass+1st round pick for someone else.

The Magic might be interested in Bradley to back up as a SG or start, and if we add a pick and a second round.

Love of course would be the hardest one to grab.

I'm don't think we have the pieces to acquire 3 players of that caliber via trade. We have a ton of assets, true, but that's a ton of wheeling and dealing. I definitely can see Ainge going after Love if our draft pick isn't in the Top 4 but it's going to take a lot to pry him from the Wolves.

As far as Afflalo, the Magic are going to want to much for him - I think he's a good player but I wouldn't give up what the magic are likely to ask for. He's having a career year at age 28 on a terrible team. I think the way he played with Denver is more indicative of the type of play you can expect to get for him on a contender.

I think Asik is the most realistic target and even then, Houston is asking for a ton.

[LooseCannon]

Three core players is the norm these days to win a ring imo.  One preferably has to be a c or pf and the other a sg or pg.

I'd like to see you try to put together a three-man core without either a player who is a c or pf or a player who is a sg or pg.

[wayupnorth]

Three core players is the norm these days to win a ring imo.  One preferably has to be a c or pf and the other a sg or pg.

I'd like to see you try to put together a three-man core without either a player who is a c or pf or a player who is a sg or pg.

 

[Tr1boy]

Three core players is the norm these days to win a ring imo.  One preferably has to be a c or pf and the other a sg or pg.

I'd like to see you try to put together a three-man core without either a player who is a c or pf or a player who is a sg or pg.

My point is you can have a three core of pg,sg sf or c,pf,sf.

its not balanced. Unless the sf is more like a point fwd or can do lots of things that a pf/c can

[D.o.s.]

Three core players is the norm these days to win a ring imo.  One preferably has to be a c or pf and the other a sg or pg.

I'd like to see you try to put together a three-man core without either a player who is a c or pf or a player who is a sg or pg.

My point is you can have a three core of pg,sg sf or c,pf,sf.

its not balanced. Unless the sf is more like a point fwd or can do lots of things that a pf/c can

That seems way, way too general to me.

[Donoghus]

Three core players is the norm these days to win a ring imo.  One preferably has to be a c or pf and the other a sg or pg.

I'd like to see you try to put together a three-man core without either a player who is a c or pf or a player who is a sg or pg.

My point is you can have a three core of pg,sg sf or c,pf,sf.

its not balanced. Unless the sf is more like a point fwd or can do lots of things that a pf/c can

That seems way, way too general to me.

Because it is.

[D.o.s.]

Go figure.

[BleedGreen1989]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

[kozlodoev]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

It's worth little without context. And the context says that he shot .390 and played 37 mpg in February. Although admittedly he got to the line considerably more frequently, and the team had a "respectable" 5-6 record. Meh.