Rondo & Jeff starting to figure out how to play together?

[mmmmm]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

It's worth little without context. And the context says that he shot .390 and played 37 mpg in February. Although admittedly he got to the line considerably more frequently, and the team had a "respectable" 5-6 record. Meh.

You are correct that it is important to pay attention to context.

Well, the context also shows that Green was injured (shoulder) in the Rockets game on Jan 13.

The context shows that from the start of the season up until that point, Green's eFG% was a solid 49.8%   (within the noise of being identical to peers like Paul George, Melo, Pierce).

The context also shows that from Jan 13 through Feb 2, his eFG% dropped like a rock to 39%.

After getting a couple days off, in the games since Feb 5, Green's eFG% has been 48.7%.  And climbing.

Gee - do you think that maybe, just maybe that shoulder injury might have had an impact?

FG%, btw, is by itself a somewhat misleading measure, especially for a shooter who takes a lot of 3PT shots.   That's also part of understanding the context, of course.

Meh.

[Fred Roberts]

You can also talk about the context of consistency for the team in general. Having all sorts of different lineups throughout the season, different PGs (Craw, Pressey, Avery?, Rondo, etc), playing different positions (2, 3, 4) may not have helped Jeff thrive.

Having Rondo and more consistency in the day to day lineup throughout camp and the season will help both Jeff & Rondo. Jeff has certainly had high points this season, but hasn't been able to take the torch game in game out amidst all the different lineups. Once the team is more settle in with its personnel and rotation I think Jeff & Rondo will be better.

[kozlodoev]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

It's worth little without context. And the context says that he shot .390 and played 37 mpg in February. Although admittedly he got to the line considerably more frequently, and the team had a "respectable" 5-6 record. Meh.

You are correct that it is important to pay attention to context.

Well, the context also shows that Green was injured (shoulder) in the Rockets game on Jan 13.

The context shows that from the start of the season up until that point, Green's eFG% was a solid 49.8%   (within the noise of being identical to peers like Paul George, Melo, Pierce).

The context also shows that from Jan 13 through Feb 2, his eFG% dropped like a rock to 39%.

After getting a couple days off, in the games since Feb 5, Green's eFG% has been 48.7%.  And climbing.

Gee - do you think that maybe, just maybe that shoulder injury might have had an impact?

FG%, btw, is by itself a somewhat misleading measure, especially for a shooter who takes a lot of 3PT shots.   That's also part of understanding the context, of course.

Meh.

Jeff Green is shooting .454 on two-point shots, the lowest since his rookie season (when he shot .444), and considerably lower than any of the last three seasons, when he shot .503, .499,and .490.

He's not having a very efficient season by any measurable standard, so forgive me if I'm not exactly impressed by the volume scoring on a horrible team.

I'm not entirely sure what happened to the guy who averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes last season, but it looks like some folks are just going through the motions this season.

[kozlodoev]

You can also talk about the context of consistency for the team in general. Having all sorts of different lineups throughout the season, different PGs (Craw, Pressey, Avery?, Rondo, etc), playing different positions (2, 3, 4) may not have helped Jeff thrive.

This is just silly. Playing three positions didn't seem to be an issue last year, and Crawford started and played PG for 35 of the 39 games before he was shipped out of town. In fact, Crawford and Rondo account for 53 of the 63 PG starts this season, hardly a revolving door.

[mmmmm]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

It's worth little without context. And the context says that he shot .390 and played 37 mpg in February. Although admittedly he got to the line considerably more frequently, and the team had a "respectable" 5-6 record. Meh.

You are correct that it is important to pay attention to context.

Well, the context also shows that Green was injured (shoulder) in the Rockets game on Jan 13.

The context shows that from the start of the season up until that point, Green's eFG% was a solid 49.8%   (within the noise of being identical to peers like Paul George, Melo, Pierce).

The context also shows that from Jan 13 through Feb 2, his eFG% dropped like a rock to 39%.

After getting a couple days off, in the games since Feb 5, Green's eFG% has been 48.7%.  And climbing.

Gee - do you think that maybe, just maybe that shoulder injury might have had an impact?

FG%, btw, is by itself a somewhat misleading measure, especially for a shooter who takes a lot of 3PT shots.   That's also part of understanding the context, of course.

Meh.

Jeff Green is shooting .454 on two-point shots, the lowest since his rookie season (when he shot .444), and considerably lower than any of the last three seasons, when he shot .503, .499,and .490.

He's not having a very efficient season by any measurable standard, so forgive me if I'm not exactly impressed by the volume scoring on a horrible team.

I'm not entirely sure what happened to the guy who averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes last season, but it looks like some folks are just going through the motions this season.

You seem to be rather selective in the way you want to look at his statistics.    You assert that context is important, but then wave it off when it doesn't fit what you want to see.

Paying attention to context means partitioning data that reflects different conditions.

Jeff Green has shot 595 2pt FGA and made 270 of them.  Now, during the interval I mentioned up above when he was injured, he took 97 2pt FGA, making just 33 of them (a miserable 34% FG% on 2pt shots).   The rest of the season he has made 2PT shots at a rate of 48%.  Since 2/5, he has shot them at 49%.

To your contention that he has not had a very efficient season by any measurable standard, even if we include that obviously anomalous interval, his overall eFG% is just under 48%.   Not great, but not terrible by any stretch.    And it is clearly climbing steadily back up to where it was pre-injury (49.8%).   Unless something unusual happens, he will likely end the season with an eFG of around 49-50%.

For comparison, Paul George's eFG is 50.3%.   Paul Pierce is at 50.2%.  Melo is at 50.5%.

Basically, other than the interval of a couple of weeks after getting injured, Green's shooting efficiency has been very comparable to his peers.

I'm not sure why Green's block rate is even a topic of conversation.

[kozlodoev]

Jeff Green has shot 595 2pt FGA and made 270 of them.  Now, during the interval I mentioned up above when he was injured, he took 97 2pt FGA, making just 33 of them (a miserable 34% FG% on 2pt shots).   The rest of the season he has made 2PT shots at a rate of 48%. Since 2/5, he has shot them at 49%.

Yeah, in this particular period he's been killing his efficiency by chucking 6 three-pointers a game at a paltry 31%.

[wayupnorth]

Well Green is averaging 19.5 PPG since 1-17 (Rondo's first game back) and is the 6th highest scoring SF behind Durant, LBJ, George, Melo, and Gay this season.

Take it for what it's worth.

It's worth little without context. And the context says that he shot .390 and played 37 mpg in February. Although admittedly he got to the line considerably more frequently, and the team had a "respectable" 5-6 record. Meh.

You are correct that it is important to pay attention to context.

Well, the context also shows that Green was injured (shoulder) in the Rockets game on Jan 13.

The context shows that from the start of the season up until that point, Green's eFG% was a solid 49.8%   (within the noise of being identical to peers like Paul George, Melo, Pierce).

The context also shows that from Jan 13 through Feb 2, his eFG% dropped like a rock to 39%.

After getting a couple days off, in the games since Feb 5, Green's eFG% has been 48.7%.  And climbing.

Gee - do you think that maybe, just maybe that shoulder injury might have had an impact?

FG%, btw, is by itself a somewhat misleading measure, especially for a shooter who takes a lot of 3PT shots.   That's also part of understanding the context, of course.

Meh.

Jeff Green is shooting .454 on two-point shots, the lowest since his rookie season (when he shot .444), and considerably lower than any of the last three seasons, when he shot .503, .499,and .490.

He's not having a very efficient season by any measurable standard, so forgive me if I'm not exactly impressed by the volume scoring on a horrible team.

I'm not entirely sure what happened to the guy who averaged 1.1 blocks per 36 minutes last season, but it looks like some folks are just going through the motions this season.

You seem to be rather selective in the way you want to look at his statistics.    You assert that context is important, but then wave it off when it doesn't fit what you want to see.

Paying attention to context means partitioning data that reflects different conditions.

Jeff Green has shot 595 2pt FGA and made 270 of them.  Now, during the interval I mentioned up above when he was injured, he took 97 2pt FGA, making just 33 of them (a miserable 34% FG% on 2pt shots).   The rest of the season he has made 2PT shots at a rate of 48%.  Since 2/5, he has shot them at 49%.

To your contention that he has not had a very efficient season by any measurable standard, even if we include that obviously anomalous interval, his overall eFG% is just under 48%.   Not great, but not terrible by any stretch.    And it is clearly climbing steadily back up to where it was pre-injury (49.8%).   Unless something unusual happens, he will likely end the season with an eFG of around 49-50%.

For comparison, Paul George's eFG is 50.3%.   Paul Pierce is at 50.2%.  Melo is at 50.5%.

Basically, other than the interval of a couple of weeks after getting injured, Green's shooting efficiency has been very comparable to his peers.

I'm not sure why Green's block rate is even a topic of conversation.

That is because he is, and he is also annoyingly contrarian .

[kozlodoev]

That is because he is, and he is also annoyingly contrarian .

I am. I'm also not always right (in fact, I may be wrong just as often). I do however consider it a small victory of science every time I've been conclusively disproved, because it means someone actually took time to look at the data and put together a coherent analysis.

Although, I must admit this Jeff Green argument is particularly easy to kill -- I didn't watch many games in February and am mostly going on a faint impression that the guy couldn't guy a basket. So the injury argument is well-taken, although it still doesn't explain the three-point brick fest since.

[Tr1boy]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his health relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

[RJ87]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

[Tr1boy]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

A building block is someone that can carry you to wins against good teams, not the lowly pistons. Especially tight ugly ones like tonight. If you think we lost this game bc we are lottery bound and Indiana are the 1st seed in the east, you are wrong. They were terrible bc for the most part we played a decent team defensive game and pulled down enough offensive rebounds. We could of won the game. And since Rondo is claimed here to be "the man, franchise calibre player" he needs to take the bull by the horns and get us the win.

But Rondo can't. He is a "helper" player. He depends on others to help the team win. I just want it to make it clear that he is not "the man of the team". The man for now, but can't be if we want to contend for a ring. He also shouldn't be paid like one

I'm not hating on Rondo. I'm just stating his role on the team, vs others here who state we shouldn't trade Rondo even for a potential game changer like Wiggins. Bc to me thats nuts

[RJ87]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

A building block is someone that can carry you to wins against good teams, not the lowly pistons. Especially tight ugly ones like tonight. If you think we lost this game bc we are lottery bound and Indiana are the 1st seed in the east, you are wrong. They were terrible bc for the most part we played a decent team defensive game and pulled down enough offensive rebounds. We could of won the game. And since Rondo is claimed here to be "the man, franchise calibre player" he needs to take the bull by the horns and get us the win.

But Rondo can't. He is a "helper" player. He depends on others to help the team win. I just want it to make it clear that he is not "the man of the team". The man for now, but can't be if we want to contend for a ring. He also shouldn't be paid like one

I'm not hating on Rondo. I'm just stating his role on the team, vs others here who state we shouldn't trade Rondo even for a potential game changer like Wiggins. Bc to me thats nuts

But you are hating on Rondo because you completely disregard the fact that he has "taken the bull by the horns" in the past. This is a player who has dropped triple doubles on the Lakers in the finals, who has gone toe to toe with Lebron in the playoffs. Guess what, all players - even the Lebrons and Durants - have mediocre games. You seem to have this unrealistic standard you hold him to and that has more to do with you than about what he is or isn't capable of.

[Tr1boy]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

A building block is someone that can carry you to wins against good teams, not the lowly pistons. Especially tight ugly ones like tonight. If you think we lost this game bc we are lottery bound and Indiana are the 1st seed in the east, you are wrong. They were terrible bc for the most part we played a decent team defensive game and pulled down enough offensive rebounds. We could of won the game. And since Rondo is claimed here to be "the man, franchise calibre player" he needs to take the bull by the horns and get us the win.

But Rondo can't. He is a "helper" player. He depends on others to help the team win. I just want it to make it clear that he is not "the man of the team". The man for now, but can't be if we want to contend for a ring. He also shouldn't be paid like one

I'm not hating on Rondo. I'm just stating his role on the team, vs others here who state we shouldn't trade Rondo even for a potential game changer like Wiggins. Bc to me thats nuts

But you are hating on Rondo because you completely disregard the fact that he has "taken the bull by the horns" in the past. This is a player who has dropped triple doubles on the Lakers in the finals, who has gone toe to toe with Lebron in the playoffs. Guess what, all players - even the Lebrons and Durants - have mediocre games. You seem to have this unrealistic standard you hold him to and that has more to do with you than about what he is or isn't capable of.

It wasn't him. It was bc of the big three RJ87. Do you see him pulling in triple doubles against good teams without the three? 

Rondo was great, but as the "helper". Just like guys like Battier for the heat.  You couldn't also build a team around a guy like Battier. And if he thinks he is the best of the team then the team has the wrong top player at the top. The guy that should have the ball when clutch baskets are required, the guy who will make these kind of baskets, the guy that should have the ball in his hands quite a bit of the time in the game.  Look at the mavericks right now. Without Nowitzki they are a lotto team, just like us. But with him he is the "man".  He is carrying that team right now.

We had him tonight, he would of won us the game

[RJ87]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

A building block is someone that can carry you to wins against good teams, not the lowly pistons. Especially tight ugly ones like tonight. If you think we lost this game bc we are lottery bound and Indiana are the 1st seed in the east, you are wrong. They were terrible bc for the most part we played a decent team defensive game and pulled down enough offensive rebounds. We could of won the game. And since Rondo is claimed here to be "the man, franchise calibre player" he needs to take the bull by the horns and get us the win.

But Rondo can't. He is a "helper" player. He depends on others to help the team win. I just want it to make it clear that he is not "the man of the team". The man for now, but can't be if we want to contend for a ring. He also shouldn't be paid like one

I'm not hating on Rondo. I'm just stating his role on the team, vs others here who state we shouldn't trade Rondo even for a potential game changer like Wiggins. Bc to me thats nuts

But you are hating on Rondo because you completely disregard the fact that he has "taken the bull by the horns" in the past. This is a player who has dropped triple doubles on the Lakers in the finals, who has gone toe to toe with Lebron in the playoffs. Guess what, all players - even the Lebrons and Durants - have mediocre games. You seem to have this unrealistic standard you hold him to and that has more to do with you than about what he is or isn't capable of.

It wasn't him. It was bc of the big three RJ87. Do you see him pulling in triple doubles against good teams without the three? 

Rondo was great, but as the "helper". Just like guys like Battier for the heat.  You couldn't also build a team around a guy like Battier. And if he thinks he is the best of the team then the team has the wrong top player at the top. The guy that should have the ball when clutch baskets are required, the guy who will make these kind of baskets, the guy that should have the ball in his hands quite a bit of the time in the game.  Look at the mavericks right now. Without Nowitzki they are a lotto team, just like us. But with him he is the "man".  He is carrying that team right now.

We had him tonight, he would of won us the game

Lol. There's so much wrong here. I'll start with this though:

You do know Dallas was a lottery team last year when Dirk was coming back from a knee injury?

[vinnie]

Both guys have proved tonight that they cannot by themselves carry the team against an elite group.  They haven't all year long

Rondo is healthy when he dishes out 18 assist but i'm sure many fans will blame his injury relating to tonights poor showing? He missed so many shots it was ugly. He couldn't make a jump shot nor make a layup. Also really bad defensively , especially PNR defense. His passing saved his otherwise horrible night. Jeff Green missed everything. Everything for him is about going at high speed. If he struggles, he tries to do things at warp speed. Just out of control

IF we add a few better player than these two, maybe we will have a chance to beat a team like Indiana, Spurs etc. But if ppl that think these two can carry us (especially Rondo), they are not realisitc (nicer way to put than to say delusional)

1.) We're a lottery team. The Pacers are the best defensive team in the league with a beast of a frontline rotation. There's not a lot of players that can beat that "by themselves".

2.) No one is playing the "Rondo is only healthy when he plays well". Most of the posts seem to have an understanding that he's going to be up and down for awhile as he continues to get back into shape. Most of the cherry picking is from the other side. "Rondo played badly this one game so he's clearly not very good." Case and point.

3.) The beauty of teams like Indiana and the Spurs is that they're teams a.k.a they have multiple weapons.. No one is claiming that Rondo can carry the team by himself, not in this thread anyway, that's about as delusional as claiming he can't be a building block for the future, so I'm not sure what it is you're trying to disprove.

A building block is someone that can carry you to wins against good teams, not the lowly pistons. Especially tight ugly ones like tonight. If you think we lost this game bc we are lottery bound and Indiana are the 1st seed in the east, you are wrong. They were terrible bc for the most part we played a decent team defensive game and pulled down enough offensive rebounds. We could of won the game. And since Rondo is claimed here to be "the man, franchise calibre player" he needs to take the bull by the horns and get us the win.

But Rondo can't. He is a "helper" player. He depends on others to help the team win. I just want it to make it clear that he is not "the man of the team". The man for now, but can't be if we want to contend for a ring. He also shouldn't be paid like one

I'm not hating on Rondo. I'm just stating his role on the team, vs others here who state we shouldn't trade Rondo even for a potential game changer like Wiggins. Bc to me thats nuts

But you are hating on Rondo because you completely disregard the fact that he has "taken the bull by the horns" in the past. This is a player who has dropped triple doubles on the Lakers in the finals, who has gone toe to toe with Lebron in the playoffs. Guess what, all players - even the Lebrons and Durants - have mediocre games. You seem to have this unrealistic standard you hold him to and that has more to do with you than about what he is or isn't capable of.

The standard he holds Rondo to is pretty funny given his love affair with Jeff Green...