Could Pau Gasol be on option this offseason? (Trade Exception)

[beantownboy171]

I think this would be a solid move, for a 2-3 year stop-gap solution at center. Gasol is likely to move on from the lakers this offseason, and they would like love to find a partner in a sign-and-trade deal.

Our trade exception is for 10.3 million:
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4706114/the-secret-gem-in-cs-nets-trade

The trade exception will expire on June 12th. Which means we will have about 3 days during the free agency period to swing a deal in a sign and trade. I think Gasol would be one of our best options at center.

I think the celtic are trying to compete next year. This move will allow us to do so, without mortgaging our future too much. We would need to trade either of our picks this year. The lakers were trying to move gasol for a first rounder at the trade deadline. I think the clippers pick would be best used getting a veteran like Gasol on this team.

Any center we take in this years draft is going to need time to develop, unless we get really lucky and draft Embiid. Unfortunately you can't compete in this league with out a capable center.

Gasol would give this team length, and i think we could sign him to a shorter deal

[pearljammer10]

Wouldnt make sense to add a past his prime slow center to a rebuild. If we make any trades it will be for younger game changer types. Not over the hill guys. Gasol will look to join a contender and rightfully so.

[LarBrd33]

That's interesting. 

But when does the trade exception expire.  Doesn't it expire prior to free agency? ... Edit:  nevermind, you covered that.

Also, do you think Pau would command more than 10 mil per year?

[beantownboy171]

That's interesting. 

But when does the trade exception expire.  Doesn't it expire prior to free agency?

Also, do you think Pau would command more than 10 mil per year?

If i remember correctly, we have a few days into free agency. It expires exactly one year to the day of the KG-Pierce trade. Which didn't actually happen until a few days into free agency.

I think the price might be right at 10 million. Theres a chance that we get outbid. I'm not really sure who has cap space this off-season. But I think that we could sell gasol on the idea of coming and playing with Rondo.

I really like the way Gasol plays. He's very skilled at this point of his career.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Wouldnt make sense to add a past his prime slow center to a rebuild. If we make any trades it will be for younger game changer types. Not over the hill guys. Gasol will look to join a contender and rightfully so.

While I completely agree, I disagree that Gasol is past his prime.

We can use him, but only if we have the rest of the pieces in place.

[beantownboy171]

Wouldnt make sense to add a past his prime slow center to a rebuild. If we make any trades it will be for younger game changer types. Not over the hill guys. Gasol will look to join a contender and rightfully so.

But we could still make a trade for younger guys. It's a matter of using the trade exception before it expires. Trades for younger guys, like a greg monroe, will come with a price of draft picks or young pieces.

The cost for Gasol would be minimal.

[More Banners]

Wouldnt make sense to add a past his prime slow center to a rebuild. If we make any trades it will be for younger game changer types. Not over the hill guys. Gasol will look to join a contender and rightfully so.

But we could still make a trade for younger guys. It's a matter of using the trade exception before it expires. Trades for younger guys, like a greg monroe, will come with a price of draft picks or young pieces.

The cost for Gasol would be minimal.

I'd say Gasol could be a good #2b-#3 guy for another 2-3 years if his minutes were managed much in the way Tim Duncan's are.

And I'd say that as long as we have KO on his rookie deal, we could afford to keep Gasol around to split C minutes with KO.

So...I could see some wisdom in giving Gasol a 3 year deal starting at our TPE, and essentially taking the roster space currently held by Hump, keeping us under the tax. 

With this idea, I would want to upgrade to a better scoring SG, though.

[Smokeeye123]

If duncan retires i see him wearing black and silver.

[freshinthehouse]

Love Gasol's game, but I think he would want to go to a contender in his golden years.  And let's face it, this team isn't contending next year.

[JBcat]

That's interesting. 

But when does the trade exception expire.  Doesn't it expire prior to free agency?

Also, do you think Pau would command more than 10 mil per year?

If i remember correctly, we have a few days into free agency. It expires exactly one year to the day of the KG-Pierce trade. Which didn't actually happen until a few days into free agency.

I think the price might be right at 10 million. Theres a chance that we get outbid. I'm not really sure who has cap space this off-season. But I think that we could sell gasol on the idea of coming and playing with Rondo.

I really like the way Gasol plays. He's very skilled at this point of his career.

Isn't there another twist that we can't go over the cap, or maybe it's the luxury tax if we are to use the trade exception?  If it's the tax I think it would leave us with about 10 million to re-sign our own free agents after considering the salaries of our 2 first round picks.  I'll have to double the rule, and our salary situation...

[JBcat]

That's interesting. 

But when does the trade exception expire.  Doesn't it expire prior to free agency?

Also, do you think Pau would command more than 10 mil per year?

If i remember correctly, we have a few days into free agency. It expires exactly one year to the day of the KG-Pierce trade. Which didn't actually happen until a few days into free agency.

I think the price might be right at 10 million. Theres a chance that we get outbid. I'm not really sure who has cap space this off-season. But I think that we could sell gasol on the idea of coming and playing with Rondo.

I really like the way Gasol plays. He's very skilled at this point of his career.

Isn't there another twist that we can't go over the cap, or maybe it's the luxury tax if we are to use the trade exception?  If it's the tax I think it would leave us with about 10 million to re-sign our own free agents after considering the salaries of our 2 first round picks.  I'll have to double the rule, and our salary situation...

Tough to find a direct answer but I read the Magic had a 17.8 million trade exception from the Howard trade, but weren't far enough below the cap where they could actually use it, so it expired.  We might have a similar problem with our exception.

[saltlover]

That's interesting. 

But when does the trade exception expire.  Doesn't it expire prior to free agency?

Also, do you think Pau would command more than 10 mil per year?

If i remember correctly, we have a few days into free agency. It expires exactly one year to the day of the KG-Pierce trade. Which didn't actually happen until a few days into free agency.

I think the price might be right at 10 million. Theres a chance that we get outbid. I'm not really sure who has cap space this off-season. But I think that we could sell gasol on the idea of coming and playing with Rondo.

I really like the way Gasol plays. He's very skilled at this point of his career.

Isn't there another twist that we can't go over the cap, or maybe it's the luxury tax if we are to use the trade exception?  If it's the tax I think it would leave us with about 10 million to re-sign our own free agents after considering the salaries of our 2 first round picks.  I'll have to double the rule, and our salary situation...

Twist #1 with the trade exception:  It counts as cap space.  So you can have a trade exception or cap space, but not both.  This was the Magic's problem with the Howard exception.  This is not currently an issue for the C's.

Twist #2:  If you use the trade exception to acquire someone in a sign-and-trade, you are limited by the hard cap that year, which is $4 million above the luxury tax line. (This is true for all sign-and-trades, regardless of whether a trade exception was used.)  While this could be a hurdle, it is unlikely the Celtics intend to go that far over the luxury tax next year.

[saltlover]

Also, based on the Lakers demands in trading Gasol for Bynum's waivable contract, it seems unlikely to me that acquiring Gasol would be cheap.  They seem a little irrational with regards to him.  I'm fairly sure the Lakers would want a 2015 1st.

[pearljammer10]

Wouldnt make sense to add a past his prime slow center to a rebuild. If we make any trades it will be for younger game changer types. Not over the hill guys. Gasol will look to join a contender and rightfully so.

While I completely agree, I disagree that Gasol is past his prime.

We can use him, but only if we have the rest of the pieces in place.

True, past his prime might be a little harsh. Like you say if we had other pieces in place then yes he would still be an effective option. I think we would have too much work to do in order to make us enough of a contender to add Gasol in a sensible manner.

Kinda like the 2 firsts for Noah thread. Unless we are able to put down the groundwork and shape a nice contending team it wouldn't make sense.

[gpap]

I agree.

I still think Gasol is a good player, regardless of what team he is on.

It's also clear that he's gotten tired of Mike D'Antoni and maybe a new voice like BS would help rejuvenate him.

I mentioned last week in a thread about the Lakers possibly going after Rondo this summer, for the Lakers to package their 2014 1st rounder, Steve Nash's contract and Pau Gasol in a S/T for Rajon Rondo and maybe another player (either Bass, Green or Wallace.)