can you start Sully KO Randle ?

[Tr1boy]

So I take it the answer is "yes, I was too young to watch Chris Webber."

I stated Randle has handles and able to go end to end unlike most PF in the nba. Why do you bring up a guy that is not even in the league anymore? why don't you instead name a guy in the nba today that can to try to rebuttal my point?  One exception example from the past does not strengthen your pt

Also your incapability to differentiate different quickness/agility levels is concerning. Webber was a pure PF.  His wide shoulders and mass prevented him to move a certain way.  So he can't play SF. Randle is lighter on his feet, spins , runs/moves differently

[jaketwice]

You have Olynyk out in the perimeter near the three pt line. Its the way he plays now and i doubt will change any time soon. So you bring out his man . Olynyk can shoot if you haven't notice. He is getting better and better

He has improved his shooting somewhat. And that is encouraging. No doubt. The issue is that if he drives in, he's going to run into Randle/Sully's man down low. Finally, if you're doing a high pick and roll with KO at the top of the key (let's say) what's the point of bumping off KO's man if Rondo is just driving into a set of defenders that are already there?

Sullinger can operate on the left side of the basket. Randle on the right side.  Then you have a 3 pt shooter on the corner etc.   This could make Rondo's life easier also as he can feed either sully or randle down low. As they get closer to the basket, likely some help defense will come which then Olynyk, 3pt shooter or Rondo can expect a pass for a jump shot. Or you can also play the PnR game with all three players.For example Rondo and Olynyk do a PNR and now Ko can do so many things (options down low to feed randle, sullinger, pass to 3 pt shooter) it will drive opponents crazy

I love your faith in Kelly Olynyk!

The spacing can work. Its not having two or three shooters around the key like you usually see, but having two post players to pass to, or PNR hell.

It's just that there is only one basket. So even if you are doing a pick and roll with Sully and Rondo, if Randle's man is waiting around on the weak-side, don't you set up a potentially blocked shot?

To answer your last point about Sullinger having issues guarding Centers. Yes it will happen. But instead of having soft Jeff Green trying to help you out or grab rebounds in case your boxing out/out of position, now you have Randle that can do the job.  Olynyk will improve his rebounding next season.

What would about opponents shooting a higher percentage, decreasing rebounds? You're assuming Sully makes people miss - I'm not so sure about that. Who is helping him on the weak-side?

[Donoghus]

So I take it the answer is "yes, I was too young to watch Chris Webber."

I stated Randle has handles and able to go end to end unlike most PF in the nba. Why do you bring up a guy that is not even in the league anymore? why don't you instead name a guy in the nba today that can to try to rebuttal my point?  One exception example from the past does not strengthen your pt

Also your incapability to differentiate different quickness/agility levels is concerning. Webber was a pure PF.  His wide shoulders and mass prevented him to move a certain way.  So he can't play SF. Randle is lighter on his feet, spins , runs/moves differently

If you think Webber was simply a "pure" PF, you are sorely mistaken. I don't even know what else to tell you on that point.

And, in regards, to your question about end to end play, Webber especially at Michigan & Golden State was a master of it. Since I know you're a big Youtube guy, you may wanna check that out.

He was also one of the better facilitating power forwards of all time.

[D.o.s.]

Thanks Donghus.

Triboy, dude, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to be almost consistently incorrect in your analysis, and deaf to the numerous posters on this blog who try to help you understand why what you're saying doesn't make much, if any, sense.

[Boris Badenov]

I think it's in Simmons's book where it's revealed that going Ultra-Big was Isiah Thomas's strategy when he was the captain on the Knicks Ship(show).


So. Great minds?

TP.

[fitzhickey]

No way too big and slow

[PhoSita]

Nope.

[Smokeeye123]

I like Randle but he is redundant on our team. Sully, Olynyk, Anthony, Hump, Bass, etc. Last thing we need is another PF.

[RockinRyA]

Thanks Donghus.

Triboy, dude, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to be almost consistently incorrect in your analysis, and deaf to the numerous posters on this blog who try to help you understand why what you're saying doesn't make much, if any, sense.

He constantly refuses to see evidences (stats,etc) disproving his claims in multiple threads he started. I think triboy is in his early 20s, around 16-17 when the 2008 celts won the championship, so yes he is much too young to have watched chris webber.

[RRNoLookPass]

Triboy, dude, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to be almost consistently incorrect in your analysis, and deaf to the numerous posters on this blog who try to help you understand why what you're saying doesn't make much, if any, sense.

+1  ...I was about to post my opinion on the thread subject, until I read through all 4 pages of responses, and realized that another post would be futile. Clearly the OP is unwilling to accept any input besides his own. This thread really has me scratching my head. Why put a question mark at the end of your thread title, if you're just going to argue with everyone who takes time to answer your question?

[SHAQATTACK]

I really don't think so ......or I wouldn't play em together......but Randle as Sully's backup ...whoa that would be cool with me...

I'm for drafting Randle at the fifth or sixth pick if you can t trade that pick and Sully for Love

Or if you get Randle,  then probably either he or Sully becomes trade bait to land an elite player from another team at some point in a year or two .

I think KO is DAs dream PF ........he plays well with the true point guards like Rondo or Pressey.....he an't going anywhere,

Yeah I like Parker , but so does every other lottery team.  So I don't get my hopes up.

I don't see Randle as a bust .  He comes with the right attitude .....fearless worker .....and Sully would be a awesome 1 -2 punch ...Randle off the bench ...teams would dread playing them .

I like ruff and tuff inside ball......give me Asik to mix in with Randle and Sully and Rondo......I'm downing beers fast and having a blast .....

Old school basketball son..

[tstorey_97]

Don't agree with the Olynyk part of post. If he is getting minutes as "an important big" the Celtics will be lacking. His ability is making connections and hitting shots from the perimeter. The Celtic's offense improves with him on the court and their defense doesn't...imo.

A starting NBA center next to Sullinger puts Olynyk on the bench until his talent is needed, a good thing. 

O.T....if the management of this  basketball team does not acquire an athlete who can hit a shot (can Randle do this?)...any shot in the the FINAL minute and thirty seconds or less of a basketball game, this general manager will be "picking in the top 5" for freaking ever.
Thank you.

[BballTim]

So I take it the answer is "yes, I was too young to watch Chris Webber."

  It's worse than that, you have to be old enough to have seen Webber with good knees.

[Tr1boy]

Thanks Donghus.

Triboy, dude, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to be almost consistently incorrect in your analysis, and deaf to the numerous posters on this blog who try to help you understand why what you're saying doesn't make much, if any, sense.

He constantly refuses to see evidences (stats,etc) disproving his claims in multiple threads he started. I think triboy is in his early 20s, around 16-17 when the 2008 celts won the championship, so yes he is much too young to have watched chris webber.

what?? lol

how do you know i'm not older than you. 

I don't understand why people don't concentrate on the topic instead of going off board. 

If you don't agree you don't agree. I don't have to agree if i don't either. i hope you understand how this place works

[Tr1boy]

Don't agree with the Olynyk part of post. If he is getting minutes as "an important big" the Celtics will be lacking. His ability is making connections and hitting shots from the perimeter. The Celtic's offense improves with him on the court and their defense doesn't...imo.

A starting NBA center next to Sullinger puts Olynyk on the bench until his talent is needed, a good thing. 

O.T....if the management of this  basketball team does not acquire an athlete who can hit a shot (can Randle do this?)...any shot in the the FINAL minute and thirty seconds or less of a basketball game, this general manager will be "picking in the top 5" for freaking ever.
Thank you.

I disagree. Olynyk in time will be ahead of Sullinger in the depth chart.  Could be as soon as next year once he adds strength , can't be easily pushed around and starts grabbing rebounds with one arm more frequently. Just too much skill imo not to be a starter

Centers will not come easy or cheap. Embiid likely goes #1 and even having the worse record doesn't guarantee the top pick.  Don't think danny will be interested in Asik with his contract for next year. Some interesting ideas if another team grabs embiid we could grab their center like Larry Sanders, but that will take us giving up a top 5 pick or multiple 1st which i don't see danny giving up

If Randle is available and he is the BPA you draft him. You can try my experiment and if fails then at worse we have a nice trio of players to take care of the PF/C spot for the short term.