can you start Sully KO Randle ?

[Tr1boy]

If we draft Julius Randle, can we start him with Sully, KO?

Randle is a pf but has some some sf skills/quality in his game. He can handle the ball, slash to the basket is quick on his feet and seen him be able to guard pf/sf. Also excellent in pnr defense and able to keep up with guards.

Randle needs to improve his jump shot but right now doesnt need it bc he just bulldozes points in near the paint. He is an excellent ft shooter

It would be a little unorthodox to have three pf take up the c to sf spots but i think it could workout. At least sully and KO would get some big help in the rebounding department

Good or bad idea?

Why stop there, let's have Brandon Bass start at SG.

TP.

Bc bass has no ounce of sg skills. Not even a possibility

Cant be said about Randle. He was known to be a pf/sf in HS.

If he had footspeed like zbo of cours he cant defend sfs.  But with his size he quick like bass, lebron to be able to defend the sf spot

Watch from 8:49 regarding his lateral quickness in defensive situations. Thats not quick to cover sf in the nba?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7oLRl6NVDU

[Boris Badenov]

Which one of those 3 players can guard the alpha-male scoring 3?  Which one of them has the quickness and ball handling skills to be a wing in the NBA?  Well, none of them...

If you draft Randle, someone is getting shipped out, or will just be on the bench.  I don't think you draft someone in the top 5 and then sit them on the bench.

Like i said randle has sf skills. His handles and ability to slash is not what a normal pf is able to do. Now He physically overwhelms college players and can play pf/c.

If lebron played in college before the nba he could play pf

Oh, OK. If Lebron could've done it, it should be no problem at all for Julius Randle.

[Mr October]

I actually think Randle could play some small forward in the nba. He is really good at picking up small guys on the perimeter and playing good defense. he is fast. I think he could do as decent a job at defending the big 3s like James, Anthony as other big 3s.

I see a lot of Antoine Walker, Anthony mason and billy Owens to his game. All those guys played some at both forward positions.

His handle like theirs is ok. Supposedly he has an outside shooting game in his high school days. He has a high motor for a forward.

Ideally he is absolutely a power forward. In a pinch i think he could play a little small forward.

A full time small forward? Probably not.

[nickagneta]

If we draft Julius Randle, can we start him with Sully, KO?

Randle is a pf but has some some sf skills/quality in his game. He can handle the ball, slash to the basket is quick on his feet and seen him be able to guard pf/sf. Also excellent in pnr defense and able to keep up with guards.

Randle needs to improve his jump shot but right now doesnt need it bc he just bulldozes points in near the paint. He is an excellent ft shooter

It would be a little unorthodox to have three pf take up the c to sf spots but i think it could workout. At least sully and KO would get some big help in the rebounding department

Good or bad idea?

Why stop there, let's have Brandon Bass start at SG.

TP.

Bc bass has no ounce of sg skills. Not even a possibility

Cant be said about Randle. He was known to be a pf/sf in HS.

If he had footspeed like zbo of cours he cant defend sfs.  But with his size he quick like bass, lebron to be able to defend the sf spot

Watch from 8:49 regarding his lateral quickness in defensive situations. Thats not quick to cover sf in the nba?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7oLRl6NVDU

Dude, you really need to lay off draftexpress.com and youtube as your sole sources of what these college kids can do.

Randle is not a SF nor does he have the skills to be one. Its not even close. For a pro PF he has a good handle and decent lateral motion which allows him to occasionally guard a college SF while playing at Kentucky and allowed him to dominate at SF in high school.

But he clearly has no business being played at SF in the NBA.

[D.o.s.]

Yeah, I think that Randle's going to struggle to adjust his game to the pro level, but I don't think he's got the skillset to be considered a tweener, let alone a guy who should be playing any SF in the NBA.

[Fred Roberts]

Guess Danny could always draft him and flip him for Marcus Smart or Exum and a 2nd rounder / spare part if he were BPA when the C's pick.

I'm def tired of undersized PFs, and if he only a PF, he's on the small side.

That said, KO can come off the bench if he's the real BPA and the best way to add firepower to the squad.

[PRIDE]

In the late 90's San Antonio started Robinson, Duncan, and Will Perdue and they were successful. Not a fan of this type of lineup but it's been done before.

[Fafnir]

In the late 90's San Antonio started Robinson, Duncan, and Will Perdue and they were successful. Not a fan of this type of lineup but it's been done before.

For one season for only 30 games when one of their starting guards/wings was hurt.

[Moranis]

Celtics don't need another PF.

The next PF they get if they're going to address the position is move Sully and parts out the door for Love.

Otherwise, the Celtics have more pressing issues.  Namely C & an offensive, take control SF.

sure but you always take the best player available, especially when you have a high pick in the draft.  If Randle is the bpa, you have to take him.

Sure but then Danny will need a plan to figure out what to do with all of them.  They'd be nuts to start Sully & Randle in the frontcourt, IMO. 

Draft Randle and you're moving somoene.

I don't disagree with that, though I do think Sully and Randle can play together at times against most teams and as such I think they could be part of a solid 3 man rotation if Boston picked up a good quality starting center.  Olynyk is nothing more than a rotation player imo, so I don't pay much attention to him.  The reality is, Boston if it ends up in the 4-7 range is more than likely going to get either Exum or a PF (Randle, Vonleh, Gordon), so they are going to have some overlap in this draft.  I don't see it as a problem given the current status of the team.  Just get the talent and let the rest work itself out (either through trades, injuries, or people just not working out). 

[Tr1boy]

I actually think Randle could play some small forward in the nba. He is really good at picking up small guys on the perimeter and playing good defense. he is fast. I think he could do as decent a job at defending the big 3s like James, Anthony as other big 3s.

I see a lot of Antoine Walker, Anthony mason and billy Owens to his game. All those guys played some at both forward positions.

+1. The guy wouldnt get taken adv of on the defensive end and  would feel bad for guys like batum try to contain him on the offensive end. Prob be fouled out before the half

[The One]

I can't see it working.  They might be able to score at will, more or less.

But they would get torched defensively.

You seen randle play defense right? He can guard sfs. And will be able to help under the rim

I like Randle.  I would like it if the Celtics ended up with him.  But he is not as quick and reactionary as LeBron.  250lbs is too heavy for the average/normal NBA player to guard NBA small forwards.  Especially out to the 3pt line.

If they draft him, he and/or Sully would be moved.

[The One]

I see a lot of Antoine Walker, Anthony mason and billy Owens to his game. All those guys played some at both forward positions.

Ideally he is absolutely a power forward. In a pinch i think he could play a little small forward.

A full time small forward? Probably not.

That was a different era.

And you're right...can't do it full time.

[CFAN38]

No....


Terrible decense that is a ticket to the bottom 5 of 2015. Out of the three front court positions you have to get 1 floor spacer, 1 rim protector, and 1 guy who can defend the perimeter in order to be effective

[Mr October]

I see a lot of Antoine Walker, Anthony mason and billy Owens to his game. All those guys played some at both forward positions.

Ideally he is absolutely a power forward. In a pinch i think he could play a little small forward.

A full time small forward? Probably not.

That was a different era.

And you're right...can't do it full time.

True. Yeah, it was a bigger era. And having a big time center helps too. Walker was a 3 on the shaq Miami team. Mason was a 3 on the Ewing knicks teams. Meanwhile billy Owens was good enough to start on a bunch of bad teams and never quite panned out.

Anyway, i think Randle can play a few minutes there, but not full time. A full time SF has to deal with a lot of speed night after night. And there is a higher premium placed on 3 point shooting from both wing positions in today's nba.

If Randle is the best player available, you've got to pick him. A trade could come at some point, but i also think sully and Randle could duke it out in practice for a year or 2, giving the celtics a clearer idea of who is the better player to keep.

For those who hate the idea of drafting Randle, aren't the celtics facing the same issue if they draft Noah vonleh? Vonleh does not look like a center to me.

[Tr1boy]

No....


Terrible decense that is a ticket to the bottom 5 of 2015. Out of the three front court positions you have to get 1 floor spacer, 1 rim protector, and 1 guy who can defend the perimeter in order to be effective

Floor spacer(shooters) - KO, Sully
Ball handling - sully, ko, randle
Passing- sully, KO
Slasher - Randle, KO, Sully (capable)
Perimeter defense - Randle, KO(help)
Shot blocker - none
Post presence - Sully, Randle
Rebounding - Sully, Randle, KO(better next season)

So not much in terms of shot blocking. Not strong in perimeter defense. But you get alot other wise. Matter of fact you get extra . Look at teams like the heat. That is not a traditional lineup most of the game. With Bosh at C, lebron at pf and wade at sf . Same goes for the spurs of the past with robinson and suncan playing c, Pf when both are centers.

Who is to say a non traditional starting unit cant work?