Rondo skips trip to sacramento

[BballTim]

I caught that...interesting.

Can't help but wonder if there's some sort of disconnect right now between Rondo and Danny Ainge.

Could be he's not happy about the back to back limitation.

Who knows though, this one incident is pretty minor but like the water bottle incident it'll get cited ad naseum.

Pretty much.

I remember that at some point Stevens said about Rondo that "the minute restriction is off". When Rondo was asked about this, he pretty much said "That's not really true, I won't be playing 40 minutes a game". So yeah, there is some disconnect there for sure, but I'm not certain it's in the direction you're suggesting.

  The minute restriction is off, the back to back restriction isn't.

[BballTim]

He didn't "skip" a game because the organization already gave him the game off for rest. It's the whole formality of telling them he was staying in LA with his family (which he should have done). When Rondo doesn't play back to backs he's not on the bench anyways and none of us would have even known that this was problem if the Herald didn't say anything.

Sure he did. Just because you don't suit up doesn't mean you're not required to be on the bench.

I guess it's however you want to look at it. I don't know the team policy (I'm guessing you don't either) so I really can't say. I don't think they're required to sit on the bench because when Doc would give rest days to Kg or PP they were not on the bench.

I really don't think it's a big deal, given that Rondo voluntarily took a quasi-assistant coach while he was recovering. So unless something changed dramatically in his relationship with the team brass recently, I view this as an unpleasant breakdown in communication more than anything else.

  I'd guess that he told someone, they were probably just expecting him to get permission as opposed to just letting them know he wasn't going to the game.

[Ogaju]

Wow, really? The kid turned 28 on Saturday and had a lot of family and friends present for a party. He wasn't going to play anyway, and Doc used to allow KG/PP days off all the time. You can hardly blame Rondo for doing what he did. I'm sure Ainge will clarify team policy with Rondo, and that'll be that. I swear, people find the smallest things to criticize Rondo about.

So it is too much to ask an employee to show up for work, or to get permission before he takes a day off. Rondo was paid for that game.

[Eja117]

If I know for a fact that if I ask someone permission they'll say yes, I usually don't bother to waste their time and they're usually fine with that.

Now if they're a control freak that sorta wants credit for my work?......yeeaaahhh....C YA!

[Eja117]

Wow, really? The kid turned 28 on Saturday and had a lot of family and friends present for a party. He wasn't going to play anyway, and Doc used to allow KG/PP days off all the time. You can hardly blame Rondo for doing what he did. I'm sure Ainge will clarify team policy with Rondo, and that'll be that. I swear, people find the smallest things to criticize Rondo about.

So it is too much to ask an employee to show up for work, or to get permission before he takes a day off. Rondo was paid for that gams

Well let's be clear. He wasn't being asked to show up to work. He was being asked to show up to watch other people work.  Are we going to ask for permission to go to the bathroom too? Maybe permission to shoot from certain spots. I mean if you don't trust his judgement off the court I'm not really sure how you trust his judgement on it. 

He has free agency coming up. We could lose him for nothing. Maybe it's ok to treat our excellent employee like a valued employee.

Let's be clear. The Celtics need Rondo about a million times more than he needs the Celts. Maybe we should act like that.

[Eja117]

Folks.....when Kevin Love says he could see himself as a Celtic because of our winning culture....who do you think he's referring to? Brad Stevens? Jeff Green? KO? The fans? Bob Cousy? Tommy? Our history?

He's referring to Rondo. He's referring to Rondo, maybe Sully, Parker/Wiggins and that's it. 

If Rondo is virtually any other name....if he's Teague. If he's Lawson. If he's Conley. If he's Jeremy Lin. If he's Jeremy Lin/Omer Asik/2 draft picks....if he's Rubio. If he's Goran Dragic......then K Love isn't thinking that way and neither is any major free agent in the league.

There's a reason Melo cries every night that he wishes they could trade for Rondo. There's a reason Rondo wants to test free agency.

Seriously. He had a birthday? Did we send him a present? Did we send him a card? Then we're morons.  Stars want to be treated like stars. Not like some hourly employee at Dunkin Donuts.  You don't have to coddle him, but you don't have to antagonize him either.

[D.o.s.]

Folks.....when Kevin Love says he could see himself as a Celtic because of our winning culture

Source?

[LooseCannon]

Folks.....when Kevin Love says he could see himself as a Celtic because of our winning culture

Source?

Peter Vescey tweeted:

KL will only commit 2 team w winning culture. Meaning Celtics r in his sights, as are Bulls. Both have lots to exchange....

Vescey's strength in reporting seems to lean towards locker room gossip rather than what front offices are thinking.

[D.o.s.]

Somehow I don't know if he's the guy I'd turn to when it comes to the Wolves. There are a couple of solid wolves beat guys, but PV's not in that group.

"I got a slew of those questions at (the All-Star Game) and basically said I'm done talking about it," Love said. "Then Peter Vecsey, who I don't think I've ever talked to, comes out with a story."

http://www.twincities.com/timberwolves/ci_25192206/timberwolves-kevin-love-we-laughed-about-vescey-tweets

[Frezz]

They're holding Rondo out of these games for no other reason than to tank and intentionally lose games and I'm supposed to be upset about him going to Chucky Cheese for his birthday the night they held hin out? Please. Try to win games, and I might care. Until then when you're holding him out he can go play skee ball all he wants.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Wow, really? The kid turned 28 on Saturday and had a lot of family and friends present for a party. He wasn't going to play anyway, and Doc used to allow KG/PP days off all the time. You can hardly blame Rondo for doing what he did. I'm sure Ainge will clarify team policy with Rondo, and that'll be that. I swear, people find the smallest things to criticize Rondo about.

So it is too much to ask an employee to show up for work, or to get permission before he takes a day off. Rondo was paid for that gams

Well let's be clear. He wasn't being asked to show up to work. He was being asked to show up to watch other people work.  Are we going to ask for permission to go to the bathroom too? Maybe permission to shoot from certain spots. I mean if you don't trust his judgement off the court I'm not really sure how you trust his judgement on it. 

He has free agency coming up. We could lose him for nothing. Maybe it's ok to treat our excellent employee like a valued employee.

Let's be clear. The Celtics need Rondo about a million times more than he needs the Celts. Maybe we should act like that.

Amen.


Paul and K.G. were older and it was a stroke of luck Danny could ship them together to what appeared to be a super team. Danny gets the genius tag without much cold hearted thrown in there.

This....is di fer ent!!! He is embarrassing (Danny)

We are discussing this now as opposed to after he leaves/traded is about as bad as saying he declined an offer nobody thought he'd take. Rondo rejects deal...Rondo skips game for birthday party Not so simple for Bball wonks on forums following everything but to most with 10 second attention span eating sound bites that what it is and means and danny knows it. Rondo knows he knows it. The vid of him snapping (long time no see peeved Rondo) about who told them about the offer....it ended right there.

Danny who i love as a shark is playing this wrong. Even if he plans on not resigning rondo he needs to keep it more in house. He's creating another reason to think FA won't sign here.

I called it on Jan 24 after Danny's way too much info morning radio show. Rondo is gone. Danny is baiting him now and he's gonna use the data gathered this past few weeks to determine roughly what he can get and from who'm.

I think Danny thought the Captaincy of Rondo was gonna lure him into signing that deal. Why assign the title to a guy who just went through the trade rumor wringer?( Danny coulda done what some other GM's did which was state they were not gonna trade____) ...maybe to get him to sign a team friendly contract with a NT clause? Rondo balked....everyone knows he should have and he did but I think Danny has been acting "differently" since the morning radio show 1/23?....

[celtsfan44]

The Celtics no longer need Rondo.   They can lose with or without Rondo.  This team isn't chasing a championship anytime soon.  If he leaves via FA before being traded elsewhere, Ainge can deploy the money elsewhere.

Media often blows things up but it doesn't make sense to make too big of a deal out of this.  Looks like Ainge will handle it well enough by keeping the discipline mostly in house.   

The players the Celtics and Ainge need to play well are players like Sullinger and Olynyk.  Low cost players that have nice value if they improve their games.

[D.o.s.]

The Celtics no longer need Rondo.   They can lose with or without Rondo.  This team isn't chasing a championship anytime soon.  If he leaves via FA before being traded elsewhere, Ainge can deploy the money elsewhere.

Media often blows things up but it doesn't make sense to make too big of a deal out of this.  Looks like Ainge will handle it well enough by keeping the discipline mostly in house.   

The players the Celtics and Ainge need to play well are players like Sullinger and Olynyk.  Low cost players that have nice value if they improve their games.

Ok. But if we don't need Rondo to lose games that we're going to lose either way (I agree with that), why not keep Rondo?

This is the hurdle I've never been able to overcome, personally, when I go down this path in my head.

[Ogaju]

okay Rondo is a free agent next year, so Cs should let him do whatever her wants. Skip games without permission just because he is not going to play. I get it.

Why again should anyone else show up for work?

After all that DA has done for the Cs why does he have to show up for work everyday? We better ease up on DA so that he does not bolt.

Rondo is the best thing we have, so we should all send him cards for his birthday, and give him the day off even when he does not ask.

[celtsfan44]

The Celtics no longer need Rondo.   They can lose with or without Rondo.  This team isn't chasing a championship anytime soon.  If he leaves via FA before being traded elsewhere, Ainge can deploy the money elsewhere.

Media often blows things up but it doesn't make sense to make too big of a deal out of this.  Looks like Ainge will handle it well enough by keeping the discipline mostly in house.   

The players the Celtics and Ainge need to play well are players like Sullinger and Olynyk.  Low cost players that have nice value if they improve their games.

Ok. But if we don't need Rondo to lose games that we're going to lose either way (I agree with that), why not keep Rondo?

This is the hurdle I've never been able to overcome, personally, when I go down this path in my head.

Well if the Celtics can't get anything good for him like a top 10 2014 lottery pick or something equivalent that Ainge has confidence in, no harm in keeping Rondo until his contract expires.  And then both parties make a decision from there. 

If the Celtics can get a decent 2014 lottery pick for him, then Ainge should make a deal.  Celtics might not be competing with the top teams for 3-4 years.   So the best years Rondo has left will largely be wasted on the Celtics.   Rick Fox on NBA tv made a good point today about the stresses on point guards in todays game vs when he played so its also hardly a sure thing that Rondos game holds up.   They are expected to attack much more and that puts most players at a larger injury risk.