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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2014, 10:29:42 AM »

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He scored 21 and his +/- was a -21.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2014, 11:44:54 AM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2014, 11:52:55 AM »

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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2014, 12:12:33 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2014, 12:20:12 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.


Resigning Mark Blount was the worst move Ainge ever made so far, followed closely by losing Tony Allen.

Green was never viewed as an all-star caliber player by Ainge. Its the fans here who keep crapping on Green because they thought he would be the next Pierce that have had the wrong perspective. Green is a very good player who is paid at his value, and will fit well as a 3rd or 4th option on a contender.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2014, 12:58:24 PM »

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I dont know how good he is but he has not played well enough to warrant his own thread.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2014, 01:02:11 PM »

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As good as his snooze clock dictates

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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2014, 01:08:34 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.

Taking on Wallace's contract I can accept because it was understandably the pill we had to swallow in order to get the draft picks. Taking on Lafrentz' deal for the benefit of getting Jiri Welsch and the 25th pick is incomprehensible to the point that I actually believe there's more to the story than what was reported.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2014, 01:43:28 PM »

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Not a starter. A 6th man calibre player at best. He can score you 8 points in a row and then go to sleep and score another 6 later on in the game.

If you peg JG as your starting SF and want to build a contender , that is going to be a mistake


Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2014, 01:57:40 PM »

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I quote Jon Barry

"Jeff Green is the biggest enigma in the NBA. Some nights he looks like a top 10 player, and then he just disappears."
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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2014, 02:10:38 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.


Resigning Mark Blount was the worst move Ainge ever made so far, followed closely by losing Tony Allen.

Green was never viewed as an all-star caliber player by Ainge. Its the fans here who keep crapping on Green because they thought he would be the next Pierce that have had the wrong perspective. Green is a very good player who is paid at his value, and will fit well as a 3rd or 4th option on a contender.

You don't believe that Jeff Green is a very good player? Or he is good value at his salary?  A very good player is a all star or fringe all star and he is not even close to either.

Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2014, 02:11:57 PM »

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hmm, it's tricky because role players are often specialists who you can depend on nightly to do at least one thing quite well. Jeff Green does nothing particularly well so it's hard to classify him as one.

i think Jeff Green is like your "x-factor" player. After your core 2 or 3 players, he'd be the "best starter" on your team after them. Or maybe he would be the "glue guy" type of 6th man. The guy who sort of stabilizes the 2nd unit.
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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2014, 02:17:54 PM »

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This sums up both how I feel about Jeff Green threads, and how I feel about "Uncle Snooze" overall.


Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2014, 02:23:49 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.

I'm not 100% on board with either A) Jeff Green makes exactly what he should make and B) Raef Lafrentz was the worst move Danny ever made.

A) I know I read somewhere that other people wanted to sign Jeff Green, but who exactly were we bidding against at $9 million per? The lost season aside (not Jeff's fault, doesn't look like it hurt him, just a lost year), Green was playing behind Pierce, it wasn't like he was putting up great numbers. Granted his $9 million salary isn't really a cap killer and he isn't unmoveable, but still..who were we bidding against? What solid offers were going to be out there at the same money? I'll wonder about that about as much as I'll wonder who killed Kennedy.

B) Raef Lafrentz, before his body broke down, was Ryan Anderson. When he signed his exetension he was a 24 year old 7 footer doing 14 points, 8 boards and shooting 37% from 3 in a league that was much more punishing to a guy of his abilities than it would be now. If you wanna talk about a guy who seemed like he would be worth the money, Lafrentz was that guy. When Danny acquired him, he was coming off of a so-so year and a half in Dallas and still 26 years old. If Jeff Green is 'worth' his money, Raef Lafrentz was a decent gamble.

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Re: How good is Jeff Green?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2014, 03:04:44 PM »

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Jeff Green is a medicore basketball player.  That's it, nothing special going on with that guy.  Giving him 4 years was one of the worst deals DA has ever done.  If Doc and KG couldn't get anything out of this guy, nobody will....

Exaggerate much? The deal he got is exactly the deal he should have gotten. He has reasonable value around the league (I don't think Ainge was trading him for a late first). Signing him was a very good idea - if he had panned out as an all-star, the deal would have been genius. Instead, he has a decent asset that can play well for us or easily be traded if we just want to clear his $ money off the books.

Just because he isn't perfectly suited for our team doesn't mean he is a bad player. And for the record, trading an all-star talent in Antoine Walker for Raef LaFrentz and his 5 year/50 million contract was the worst move Danny ever made. If he hated Antoine so much, he should have just let his contract run out. People talk about how bad Gerald Wallace's deal is, well, it doesn't touch LaFrentz.

I'm not 100% on board with either A) Jeff Green makes exactly what he should make and B) Raef Lafrentz was the worst move Danny ever made.....

...B) Raef Lafrentz, before his body broke down, was Ryan Anderson. When he signed his exetension he was a 24 year old 7 footer doing 14 points, 8 boards and shooting 37% from 3 in a league that was much more punishing to a guy of his abilities than it would be now. If you wanna talk about a guy who seemed like he would be worth the money, Lafrentz was that guy. When Danny acquired him, he was coming off of a so-so year and a half in Dallas and still 26 years old. If Jeff Green is 'worth' his money, Raef Lafrentz was a decent gamble.

Funny you mention Anderson. When we traded for Lafrentz he was about as healthy as Ryan Anderson is right now. He didn't last 20 games before needing season ending surgery. Ainge willingly took him on for his six remaining years. We wound up having to trade a lotto pick to shave one year off of his deal.

 I can't say whether Walker had any significant trade value around the league, but almost any move would have been better than that.

Jeff would have to have one of the worst contracts in the NBA to compare it to Lafrentz as "a decent gamble"
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