Cliff Notes of Ainge on The Sports Hub (2/21/14 at 2PM)

[CelticG1]

Felgers comment about Indiana is pretty stupid

[sed522002]

- Believes good players are the best tool to bringing in Free agents and then references how KG was reluctant until Pierce and Allen were on the team. Wants to create an advantage this way to bring in free agents.

That really is the key..especially for Boston. Kg didn't want to step foot here and wouldn't sign long term until he knew Allen was coming as well.

[Donoghus]

- Believes good players are the best tool to bringing in Free agents and then references how KG was reluctant until Pierce and Allen were on the team. Wants to create an advantage this way to bring in free agents.

That really is the key..especially for Boston. Kg didn't want to step foot here and wouldn't sign long term until he knew Allen was coming as well.

Which I think that keeping Rondo and, with some luck, locking down a top 3 draft pick.... all of a sudden, the Celtics become much more attractive.

[CelticG1]

- Believes good players are the best tool to bringing in Free agents and then references how KG was reluctant until Pierce and Allen were on the team. Wants to create an advantage this way to bring in free agents.

That really is the key..especially for Boston. Kg didn't want to step foot here and wouldn't sign long term until he knew Allen was coming as well.

Which I think that keeping Rondo and, with some luck, locking down a top 3 draft pick.... all of a sudden, the Celtics become much more attractive.

Yup. Its a pretty valid if obvious statement.

it seems pretty logical that we've had troublenin the  past acquiring free agents cause our team stunk

[Donoghus]

- Believes good players are the best tool to bringing in Free agents and then references how KG was reluctant until Pierce and Allen were on the team. Wants to create an advantage this way to bring in free agents.

That really is the key..especially for Boston. Kg didn't want to step foot here and wouldn't sign long term until he knew Allen was coming as well.

Which I think that keeping Rondo and, with some luck, locking down a top 3 draft pick.... all of a sudden, the Celtics become much more attractive.

Yup. Its a pretty valid if obvious statement.

it seems pretty logical that we've had troublenin the  past acquiring free agents cause our team stunk

That's one of the big reasons why I didn't really understand the whole "trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar" talk that people were preaching.

Alone, a top 3 pick, won't cut it.  If you have Rondo + Top 3 pick, you're in a much better situation.

So why the rush to move him for garbage AND before this draft or even the draft order being determined? Made no real sense to me.

[colincb]

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CLIFFS

- Not disappointed by nothing being done at deadline.

- Didn't like the cost out there to do things.
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In Ainge We Trust.

TP and thanks.

[colincb]

The idea of trading Rondo has never made sense unless you're trading him for another star.

The HOU deal made no sense for either party unless you throw in Green and Lin to make the money work, to get a SF to replace Parsons, and to have Lin balance the money.  Total BS.

[CFAN38]

- You have to operate from building your team like the Pistons in 2004 because the Durants and James of the world are few and far between.

I'm tempted to start a thread highlighting this because I think there are some posters who might bash their heads against a wall if this is Plan A.

I have posted about this a couple of times. I have always thought that a team modeled after a mix of the 04 piston and 01 nets would be a possibility for and Cs team with Rondo.

[Vermont Green]

...I didn't really understand the whole "trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar" talk that people were preaching.

Who exactly is preaching that?  Trade Rondo for 0.25/1.00?

Is McLemore, Thomas, and 2 firsts for example 25 cents (which was one example trade that was discussed quite a bit)?  So I guess a fair trade would be Cousins, Mclemore, Thomas and 4 future first round picks?  No wait, that would only get us to 50 cents then.

[Donoghus]

...I didn't really understand the whole "trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar" talk that people were preaching.

Who exactly is preaching that?  Trade Rondo for 0.25/1.00?

Is McLemore, Thomas, and 2 firsts for example 25 cents (which was one example trade that was discussed quite a bit)?  So I guess a fair trade would be Cousins, Mclemore, Thomas and 4 future first round picks?  No wait, that would only get us to 50 cents then.

25 cents...50 cents.  It's a matter of semantics.   Whatever floats your boat.

There was a lot of junk trades floated out there either as trade ideas or just flatout make believe trades that had the Celtics moving Rondo for a mix & match of parts that certainly wasn't a full return.  There's also that contingent that would like to move Rondo no matter what or at what cost just to get him off the team.

Luckily, Danny didn't pull the trigger on any of them.

[Nerf DPOY]

  There's also that contingent that would like to move Rondo no matter what or at what cost just to get him off the team.

The logic coming from that contingent blows my mind. From what I gather, they hold the belief that Rondo is overrated and can't be a major part of a contender, while his presence on the roster currently will turn too many losses into wins. It's a train of thought that after taking in makes me sad that I read it.

[BleedGreen1989]

...I didn't really understand the whole "trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar" talk that people were preaching.

Who exactly is preaching that?  Trade Rondo for 0.25/1.00?

Is McLemore, Thomas, and 2 firsts for example 25 cents (which was one example trade that was discussed quite a bit)?  So I guess a fair trade would be Cousins, Mclemore, Thomas and 4 future first round picks?  No wait, that would only get us to 50 cents then.

Well considering the fact that trade literally cannot happen with SAC's pick situation, I consider what the real offer to be .25 on the dollar.

[JBcat]

- Believes good players are the best tool to bringing in Free agents and then references how KG was reluctant until Pierce and Allen were on the team. Wants to create an advantage this way to bring in free agents.

That really is the key..especially for Boston. Kg didn't want to step foot here and wouldn't sign long term until he knew Allen was coming as well.

Which I think that keeping Rondo and, with some luck, locking down a top 3 draft pick.... all of a sudden, the Celtics become much more attractive.

Yup. Its a pretty valid if obvious statement.

it seems pretty logical that we've had troublenin the  past acquiring free agents cause our team stunk

That's one of the big reasons why I didn't really understand the whole "trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar" talk that people were preaching.

Alone, a top 3 pick, won't cut it.  If you have Rondo + Top 3 pick, you're in a much better situation.

So why the rush to move him for garbage AND before this draft or even the draft order being determined? Made no real sense to me.

Yep, a top 3 pick doesn't guarantee anything.   They could just as easily turn into the next Andrew Bynum, Glen Robinson, or Jeff Green than the next Olajuwon, Pierce, or McGrady.  Hopefully they are more like the latter.

[Vermont Green]

  There's also that contingent that would like to move Rondo no matter what or at what cost just to get him off the team.

The logic coming from that contingent blows my mind. From what I gather, they hold the belief that Rondo is overrated and can't be a major part of a contender, while his presence on the roster currently will turn too many losses into wins. It's a train of thought that after taking in makes me sad that I read it.

I wish someone who wants to trade Rondo for 25 or 50 cents would chime in and confirm that you are out there.

Thinking that Rondo is overrated by some on this board is far different than saying trade Rondo for nothing.  Also,  there is a big difference between saying that you don't think Rondo can be the best player on a title team and saying "can't be a major part of a contender".

The last part, Trade Rondo or we will win too many games is the whole tank thing and really has nothing to do with Rondo.  Some believe we should have a fire sale and be like Phili.  You can agree or disagree with that but it really has nothing to do with Rondo specifically.  It applies equally to Green, Bass, and others.

I don't want to appear to nit pick but it does bug me to see these sorts of blanket statements that just don't seem to be fair in my opinion.  You can believe it is smart to trade Rondo with out it being you want to trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar.

[Donoghus]

  There's also that contingent that would like to move Rondo no matter what or at what cost just to get him off the team.

The logic coming from that contingent blows my mind. From what I gather, they hold the belief that Rondo is overrated and can't be a major part of a contender, while his presence on the roster currently will turn too many losses into wins. It's a train of thought that after taking in makes me sad that I read it.

I wish someone who wants to trade Rondo for 25 or 50 cents would chime in and confirm that you are out there.

Thinking that Rondo is overrated by some on this board is far different than saying trade Rondo for nothing.  Also,  there is a big difference between saying that you don't think Rondo can be the best player on a title team and saying "can't be a major part of a contender".

The last part, Trade Rondo or we will win too many games is the whole tank thing and really has nothing to do with Rondo.  Some believe we should have a fire sale and be like Phili.  You can agree or disagree with that but it really has nothing to do with Rondo specifically.  It applies equally to Green, Bass, and others.

I don't want to appear to nit pick but it does bug me to see these sorts of blanket statements that just don't seem to be fair in my opinion.  You can believe it is smart to trade Rondo with out it being you want to trade Rondo for 25 cents on the dollar.

There is a middle ground out there.  Plenty of people would be willing to trade Rondo for the right price.  We had a poll thread on that the other day. 

My original statement above pertained to the items that were floating out there the past few weeks leading up to the trading deadline.  Ideas, rumors, and outright falsehoods that had Rondo being traded for 25 cents, 37 cents, 50 cents....whatever. 

Those alone illustrated to me that some people were willing to pull the trigger on those "25 cents" trades.

There was a contingent preaching that on here.  That was relatively crystal clear in some threads.  Nowwhere did I make the blanket statement that anybody wanting to trade Rondo was looking for 25 cents on the dollar. 

Heck, if you've read some stuff I've wrote,  I'm willing to trade Rondo for the right price.  I'm just not gonna give him away like some people on these boards seem willing to do.

Unless there was an absolute "blow me away" offer (which I didn't see) in the past few weeks, I didn't see the point of moving Rondo before this draft.