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Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 10:18:51 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?
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Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2014, 10:30:08 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 10:37:24 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

Roy already said it in another thread, the Kings don't have a first rounder to offer unless its in 2019 and 2020. I don't think Danny wants those picks, he wants immediate picks. And if we also throw in Bradley, then the Kings are asking too much in which case Danny should hang up the phone unless it involves Cousins (in which they won't trade)

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 10:51:44 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

Roy already said it in another thread, the Kings don't have a first rounder to offer unless its in 2019 and 2020. I don't think Danny wants those picks, he wants immediate picks. And if we also throw in Bradley, then the Kings are asking too much in which case Danny should hang up the phone unless it involves Cousins (in which they won't trade)
Maybe Roy can explain this to me but I don't believe this is accurate.

"Sacramento trades a 2012 first round pick (lottery protected in 2012, top 13 protected in 2013, top 12 protected in 2014, top 10 protected from 2015-2017) to Cleveland as part of the JJ Hickson/Omri Casspi trade. If pick is not conveyed by 2016, Sacramento trades a 2017 second round pick (56-60 protected) to Cleveland. This pick was conveyed to Chicago as part of the Luol Deng/Andrew Bynum trade."

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2tgmkcz9g
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To me that reads that they could trade their 2017 draft pick because the pick they owe will become a second round pick by then.

Regardless, this trade makes pretty much no sense right now. If the Kings trade for Rondo now they still will not make the playoffs, thereby decreasing a big asset they have in a top notch draft pick. If they just waited until the offseason they could use the (draft pick that has become tradable at this point) to get Rondo and probably have to give up less since the draft pick increased in value. The only part that would hurt is Isaiah Thomas will be restricted free agent at that point and thus unable to trade (at least at the draft). If Sacramento got a top five pick, combined that with McLemore and another protected pick in 2017 I would jump at that in the offseason.
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Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2014, 10:56:33 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

Roy already said it in another thread, the Kings don't have a first rounder to offer unless its in 2019 and 2020. I don't think Danny wants those picks, he wants immediate picks. And if we also throw in Bradley, then the Kings are asking too much in which case Danny should hang up the phone unless it involves Cousins (in which they won't trade)
Maybe Roy can explain this to me but I don't believe this is accurate.

"Sacramento trades a 2012 first round pick (lottery protected in 2012, top 13 protected in 2013, top 12 protected in 2014, top 10 protected from 2015-2017) to Cleveland as part of the JJ Hickson/Omri Casspi trade. If pick is not conveyed by 2016, Sacramento trades a 2017 second round pick (56-60 protected) to Cleveland. This pick was conveyed to Chicago as part of the Luol Deng/Andrew Bynum trade."

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2tgmkcz9g
http://www.draftexpress.com

To me that reads that they could trade their 2017 draft pick because the pick they owe will become a second round pick by then.

No, because if the pick is conveyed in 2016, then they can't trade the 2017 1st rd pick because they can't trade 1st in consecutive seasons.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2014, 11:07:56 AM »

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What are the chances rondo gets traded by thurs vs remain put? 50-50? 30-70?

I assume most fans will be shocked if he is traded

less than 5%

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2014, 11:09:31 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

Roy already said it in another thread, the Kings don't have a first rounder to offer unless its in 2019 and 2020. I don't think Danny wants those picks, he wants immediate picks. And if we also throw in Bradley, then the Kings are asking too much in which case Danny should hang up the phone unless it involves Cousins (in which they won't trade)

Exactly what I was thinking but he was throwing out three first rounders   ???
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Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2014, 11:11:31 AM »

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Why do you have to trade Rondo? After Ray Allen, Rondo's name has been in trade talks since 2008.

Build around Rondo, don't let go.

This is about the Celtics, and the team is bigger than an individual player. If trading Rondo is for the betterment of the team, then I'm all for it. Again, it's about the Celtics not about fans enjoying a very flashy player make plays.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2014, 11:50:34 AM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

They're last in the West and 13 games out with 29 to play.  I'm pretty sure they're aware that ship has sailed.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2014, 12:04:30 PM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

They're last in the West and 13 games out with 29 to play.  I'm pretty sure they're aware that ship has sailed.

If Sacramento believes they can still make the playoffs, they would have to believe they can finish the season 29-0.

That's not happening.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2014, 12:25:50 PM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

They're last in the West and 13 games out with 29 to play.  I'm pretty sure they're aware that ship has sailed.

If Sacramento believes they can still make the playoffs, they would have to believe they can finish the season 29-0.

That's not happening.

If sac wins 20 they could sneak in

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2014, 12:39:07 PM »

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I have so much more confidence in Danny as a GM now than I did during the pre-KG trade era.  He was trying to hit singles and doubles with the likes of Ricky Davis, and Wally Szerbiak, and the trade that landed us Sebastian Telfair. I think those bad experiences have wizened him to focus on collecting assets before pulling the big trade.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2014, 12:44:42 PM »

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Why do you have to trade Rondo? After Ray Allen, Rondo's name has been in trade talks since 2008.

Build around Rondo, don't let go.

This is about the Celtics, and the team is bigger than an individual player. If trading Rondo is for the betterment of the team, then I'm all for it. Again, it's about the Celtics not about fans enjoying a very flashy player make plays.

  If trading Rondo makes the team better of course they'll do it. Most of the fans probably get more excited about coming up big in big games and dominating in the playoffs when healthy and not flashy plays. Not all obviously.

Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2014, 01:14:35 PM »

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I don't think Danny is stupid enough to trade Rondo for scrubs and pieces. It's exactly what some people say. 2 unprotected First rounders and a young potential all-star. That or no deal.

Danny got the offer from sac. I think sac will revise the offer and take out an extra 1st or ask for AB also. I have a feeling they will try to make this happen. The trade for gay and williams cant be for nothing

You think we're going to give them more?  That aint happening.  Pretty funny.

Gay and Williams weren't for nothing: they play for the Kings now.

EDIT: Wait you're saying Sac trades three first round picks?

Sac got williams and especially gay to make the playoffs this year.

They're last in the West and 13 games out with 29 to play.  I'm pretty sure they're aware that ship has sailed.

Yeah they're trying to build for the 2015 post-season.
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Re: Please don't do it Danny
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2014, 01:20:56 PM »

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Why do you have to trade Rondo? After Ray Allen, Rondo's name has been in trade talks since 2008.

Build around Rondo, don't let go.

This is about the Celtics, and the team is bigger than an individual player. If trading Rondo is for the betterment of the team, then I'm all for it. Again, it's about the Celtics not about fans enjoying a very flashy player make plays.

Not to everyone here, obviously. I wonder what Red would think about that.
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