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http://nba.si.com/2014/02/15/adam-silver-all-star-press-conference-nba/


Among the things he mentioned, he wants to raise the minimal age of the NBA rookie. 


While he mentions the benefits to college, I think the real benefit the NBA teams want is more time to scout and for players to get more time to develop their game.  I can't remember which retired big man said this, but NBA big men have to develop a post game before they get to the league and it is nearly impossible to do it in one year.



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What the NBA needs is a better "farm system", instead of wasting valuable roster spots purely on potential.

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What the NBA needs is a better "farm system", instead of wasting valuable roster spots purely on potential.


Agreed.


But like the NFL, they have it.  The college system and the oversea system both can do a good job training players.  The NBA just needs to find a way to keep them in there longer. 

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences. 


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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 

Other professions have age attached to it. 


Other professions make you go somewhere else to receive training. 




This only helps the overhyped, will never work on his game, let me collect that paycheck player. 



The great ones will still come to the league.  They will still have long careers. 



And there will still be the exact same numbers of jobs for players in the league, but instead of some overhyped guy taking a spot, someone who is a hard worker that can help a team at the end of the bench will have that job. 



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http://nba.si.com/2014/02/15/adam-silver-all-star-press-conference-nba/


Among the things he mentioned, he wants to raise the minimal age of the NBA rookie. 


While he mentions the benefits to college, I think the real benefit the NBA teams want is more time to scout and for players to get more time to develop their game.  I can't remember which retired big man said this, but NBA big men have to develop a post game before they get to the league and it is nearly impossible to do it in one year.

I believe Charles Barkley said that. People in college had more time to refine their skills and makes the transition easier when they go to the NBA...

I kinda of agree. In a way it will kill the hype for freshmen kids and gets some pressure off of them.

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 


for the reason i said in my post.

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 


for the reason i said in my post.


But why do you want to see teams have to gamble?  Does it benefit the league?  Does it benefit the teams?  Does it benefit the fans?

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 

Other professions have age attached to it. 


Other professions make you go somewhere else to receive training. 




This only helps the overhyped, will never work on his game, let me collect that paycheck player. 



The great ones will still come to the league.  They will still have long careers. 



And there will still be the exact same numbers of jobs for players in the league, but instead of some overhyped guy taking a spot, someone who is a hard worker that can help a team at the end of the bench will have that job.

Yeah this would be huge. I would be in major support of raising the age minimum for the NBA and I have spoken about doing so for quite sometime. This whole one and done thing can absolutely ruin a college program. A player like an Oden or a Durant can come in one year, gain crazy media exposure and dollars for a college and gain a huge following, leave them next year and can potentially put the program into shambles.

I can't stand the one and done college rule and really hope it gets changed in the near future. Touchee to this Mr. Silver.

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 


for the reason i said in my post.


But why do you want to see teams have to gamble?  Does it benefit the league?  Does it benefit the teams?  Does it benefit the fans?

it puts it on the team.  why should an 18 yr old lbj type player have to wait bc of someone like kwame brown? i prefer the team to be in control of their team.  good gm's are rewarded and bad ones are held accountable.

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I have been against age restrictions forever. An 18 year old can make the decision to join the military and fight for the FREEDOM of this country and have their life put in danger on a daily basis but they don't have the right to decide whether or not they can play a professional game.


I see people post their are jobs with age restrictions due to training being needed. Well the military trains you AFTER you join. I see no problem with an 18 year old being able to play a professional sport. If a team drafts them then the team could send them to D league or wherever to get experience.

They are 18 years old it is their life and I feel they should be able to make that decision. The decision to raise the age limit effects college basketball more than it does the NBA. College athletics make millions off of these kids and honestly how many of these kids go to college to get an education.


If they can make the decision to go fight for this country they should have the right to play a professional sport.

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I have been against age restrictions forever. An 18 year old can make the decision to join the military and fight for the FREEDOM of this country and have their life put in danger on a daily basis but they don't have the right to decide whether or not they can play a professional game.


I see people post their are jobs with age restrictions due to training being needed. Well the military trains you AFTER you join. I see no problem with an 18 year old being able to play a professional sport. If a team drafts them then the team could send them to D league or wherever to be experience.

They are 18 years old it is their life and I feel they should be able to make that decision. The decision to raise the age limit effects college basketball more than it does the NBA. College athletics make millions off of these kids and honestly how many of these kids go to college to get an education.


If they can make the decision to go fight for this country they should have the right to play a professional sport.


They have a choice.  They can go overseas and try and get a basketball job there. 




It is not the NBA's job to create jobs for an 18 year old. 


Playing in the NBA is not a right.  It is a job. 

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Interesting.  Would certainly improve college ball.  Also, it would maybe help tanking issues somewhat because you wouldn't get so much hype about a class of incoming freshman as with this year.  You'll still have some teams tanking for that one guy who dominates college e.g. Durant, Duncan, or Davis, but there will be less incentive because you won't get hype about an entire class of 18 and 19 year olds who have nothing on their resume by high school mixtapes and physical measurements.
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I've always been technically against it, but if the NBA raises it, I won't lose any sleep.

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i really hate the stipulations regarding age.  i firmly believe that any 18 yr old that has the talent should be eligible.  reason being, if a team is willing to draft them, it should be their right.  it is a gamble. if it works, great for the team.  if it doesn't, then the team has to live with the consequences.


Why? 


for the reason i said in my post.


But why do you want to see teams have to gamble?  Does it benefit the league?  Does it benefit the teams?  Does it benefit the fans?

it puts it on the team.  why should an 18 yr old lbj type player have to wait bc of someone like kwame brown? i prefer the team to be in control of their team.  good gm's are rewarded and bad ones are held accountable.

Yeah I agree - it seems like every argument for the age minimum hinges on protecting the teams and college programs from themselves.  Forget that. 

Let the players, once they're legally adults, play at the highest level that will take them and maximize the benefits they get from their talents during the relatively short window of an athlete's career.  The teams and programs can take responsibility for their own actions instead of screwing guys who are good enough to play now out of millions.  And let the guys in college be the guys who actually WANT to play in college, not just guys killing a year before moving up to their real level.

That said I think a better D-League system would be a great way to bridge the gap.