"NBA commissioner Adam Silver’s 2014" raise the the age of rookies (from SI)

[Fafnir]

How much money does Greg Oden make if he has to stay another year? He could be looking at 20 million less if his injury issues had started at the same chronological time.

And Portland doesn't waste a 1st round draft pick on a big man that could not stay healthy.


Someone else would have received that contract.  The money doesn't disappear, it just goes to another player.

Right its a fixed amount of money according to the CBA going to the "players". We're arguing about the distribution of the money and allowing teams to draft who they want and players to be professionals when they want.

[pearljammer10]

WD they can only play NBA basketball IF an organization decides they want to give them a job. If an organization wants to give them a job they should be able to accept it if they want to.

And if they are allowed, NBA teams will have to take the gamble that they work out based on them playing in high school.


How does that help the NBA?  How does that help the teams?  How does that help the fans?



I don't care if the NBA dreaming players have to wait two or more season to get there as long as they are better trained when they get there.   Where there is actual pressure on them to improve their craft.  Where over hyped 18 year old drop from a top 5 pick to the 2nd round because teams get to actually scout them for a long period of time against a higher level talent. 


I just don't see the downside for the fans.

Well instead of looking at the downside for the fans, look at the downside for the players.

Exactly. Any NBA rookie contract can mean the world to some of these guys, and I don't like the plantation mentality of forcing them to work without pay in the college system for years.

What the commish might do is some sort of contract that eases teams playing them in the d-league for their first year or two. Then they can be paid what their market value is, but teams don't have to put them out as an NBA product before their ready.

So teachers, doctors, lawyers are "forced" to not only work without pay in college but they have to pay boats loads of money for their training. Most of these NBA eligible athletes are already getting a free ride scholarship. A rookie contract might mean the world to them but they shouldn't just be given a rookie contract, they should have to prove they are ready to handle NBA level of work.

You mean by, say, convincing an NBA GM to draft them? 

"Playing well in college" isn't remotely the same as "proving you can handle the NBA", because plenty of guys convince GMs to draft them with their college play and it turns out that they really can't handle it.

Which is why I proposed an age requirement in my other post to requires athlete to either a) stay in school longer to "prove" that their one year again less superior athletes to them and to what they'll see wasnt just a fluke, b)leave college early but be required to play in the dleague until they meet age requirment or c) be required to play at least one year in the d league before NBA roster eligibility.

[KGs Knee]

Never like the age requirement. Don't like it for any sport.

If you're good enough to convince a GM to draft you, you deserve to be paid.

This just reeks of further collusion between the NBA and NCAA. The NCAA is a criminal organization.

[Moranis]

WD they can only play NBA basketball IF an organization decides they want to give them a job. If an organization wants to give them a job they should be able to accept it if they want to.

And if they are allowed, NBA teams will have to take the gamble that they work out based on them playing in high school.


How does that help the NBA?  How does that help the teams?  How does that help the fans?



I don't care if the NBA dreaming players have to wait two or more season to get there as long as they are better trained when they get there.   Where there is actual pressure on them to improve their craft.  Where over hyped 18 year old drop from a top 5 pick to the 2nd round because teams get to actually scout them for a long period of time against a higher level talent. 


I just don't see the downside for the fans.

Well instead of looking at the downside for the fans, look at the downside for the players.

Exactly. Any NBA rookie contract can mean the world to some of these guys, and I don't like the plantation mentality of forcing them to work without pay in the college system for years.

What the commish might do is some sort of contract that eases teams playing them in the d-league for their first year or two. Then they can be paid what their market value is, but teams don't have to put them out as an NBA product before their ready.

So teachers, doctors, lawyers are "forced" to not only work without pay in college but they have to pay boats loads of money for their training. Most of these NBA eligible athletes are already getting a free ride scholarship. A rookie contract might mean the world to them but they shouldn't just be given a rookie contract, they should have to prove they are ready to handle NBA level of work.

You mean by, say, convincing an NBA GM to draft them? 

"Playing well in college" isn't remotely the same as "proving you can handle the NBA", because plenty of guys convince GMs to draft them with their college play and it turns out that they really can't handle it.

And then there are players like Adam Morrison who become top 3 picks because of their college stats and have no business even being first round picks.

[Snakehead]

Never like the age requirement. Don't like it for any sport.

If you're good enough to convince a GM to draft you, you deserve to be paid.

This just reeks of further collusion between the NBA and NCAA. The NCAA is a criminal organization.

TP to you.  Took all the words out of my mouth.

I hope 18 year olds going to Europe or other leagues becomes acceptable to give them the option to get paid if they can and want to.

In the NFL I find it even worse (ruins Running Backs especially) but it's, like you say, a sham in all sports.  Sports are not tied to education hand in hand.  They just aren't.