Can we just appreciate Rondo?

[BballTim]

The forum skews anti rondo? I think there's like, five posters I can think of who regularly say not nice things about his game.

Anti or Pro is a matter of perspective, I guess.  Some posters seem to regard long-tenured Celtics almost as family.  Rondo is our point guard.  So even if he isn't the best point guard at every facet of the game, to suggest that we aren't better off with him than pretty much any other guy at his position is to be "anti" Rondo.

  I don't see that as greatly different than the claim that people who think Rondo makes more of an impact than you do base their claims on emotional ties to Rondo.

I read that a few times and I'm still not sure I get what you mean.

  Just pointing out the reason people think we're better off with Rondo than most point guards is because we are, not because Rondo eats sunday dinners at their houses.

[PhoSita]

  Just pointing out the reason people think we're better off with Rondo than most point guards is because we are, not because Rondo eats sunday dinners at their houses.

Thinking we're better off with Rondo is a defensible position, depending on which alternative we're talking about.  I don't mean to suggest that anybody who is a big fan of Rondo must have purely emotional reasons for it. 

However, I do think that's a factor with some -- especially those who state the position as if it's obvious and not a point of possible debate.

[D.o.s.]

It's definitely a thing. It's definitely a good thing, too. That's a perfectly valid way of being a fan.

[cman88]

The only thing I dont understand is that fans on this board are so desperate for top tier talent...and we have one..rondo

and they want to trade him for mediocre players and low picks as if he is jeff green or something and run him out of town.

[pokeKingCurtis]

  Just pointing out the reason people think we're better off with Rondo than most point guards is because we are, not because Rondo eats sunday dinners at their houses.

Thinking we're better off with Rondo is a defensible position, depending on which alternative we're talking about.  I don't mean to suggest that anybody who is a big fan of Rondo must have purely emotional reasons for it. 

However, I do think that's a factor with some -- especially those who state the position as if it's obvious and not a point of possible debate.

It's true for both sides.

Dumping Rondo, for instance, is an incredible move or is straight up asinine depending on who you ask.

Some are persistent that he's highly replaceable. Some don't feel he's as replaceable.

Nobody's swayed. Many readily represent opinions as facts.



But being irrational isn't just reserved for optimists. Skeptics (of Rondo, of not tanking) are also prone to this.

Just as skeptics could easily be brushed off as being bad fans, the opinions of optimists are portrayed as homerism and myopic.

[dark_lord]

The only thing I dont understand is that fans on this board are so desperate for top tier talent...and we have one..rondo

and they want to trade him for mediocre players and low picks as if he is jeff green or something and run him out of town.

i dont want to trade him for the sake of trading him, nor do i want to run him out of tow.  however, i dont think he is a top tier player, at least to be ur #1 guy.  if he is your #2 guy, your team is in the right direction, if rondo is ur #3 guy, ur a contender.

the reason rondo is mentioned in trade rumors is bc, from the standpoint of bball ability (and not for salary/contract reasons), he is the only real chip the celts got

[BballTim]

The only thing I dont understand is that fans on this board are so desperate for top tier talent...and we have one..rondo

and they want to trade him for mediocre players and low picks as if he is jeff green or something and run him out of town.

  I like all the trades where the "why" for the other team talks about how they're desperate for a star player and desperate to win. Don't we want star players in Boston?

[GreenWarrior]

this is a tricky situation. if we keep rondo it does hurt us as far as our chances of getting a high pick on one hand. on the other it will likely boost rondo's trade value come draft day if he continues to get healthy, more mins., better.

I absolutely don't want to trade rondo. but we don't know what he's going to want to do come free agency, plus he will be what? 2 yrs older when his contract is up? after having a serious foot injury? trading rondo is something you have to consider.

but I say unless we're getting something ridiculous in return for this trade deadline. I say we wait till draft day, when we know what all our chips are.

 

[dark_lord]

  I like all the trades where the "why" for the other team talks about how they're desperate for a star player and desperate to win. Don't we want star players in Boston?

tim, i am curious with your thoughts about the following:

i dont want to trade him for the sake of trading him, nor do i want to run him out of tow.  however, i dont think he is a top tier player, at least to be ur #1 guy.  if he is your #2 guy, your team is in the right direction, if rondo is ur #3 guy, ur a contender.

the reason rondo is mentioned in trade rumors is bc, from the standpoint of bball ability (and not for salary/contract reasons), he is the only real chip the celts got

[D.o.s.]

He's not the only real chip, though. He's not even the best trade chip this year.

[dark_lord]

He's not the only real chip, though. He's not even the best trade chip this year.

from a bball standpoint, he is.  contracts/$ aside, and strictly bball ability, he is by far the best chip we have

[CoachBo]

The only thing I dont understand is that fans on this board are so desperate for top tier talent...and we have one..rondo

and they want to trade him for mediocre players and low picks as if he is jeff green or something and run him out of town.

i dont want to trade him for the sake of trading him, nor do i want to run him out of tow.  however, i dont think he is a top tier player, at least to be ur #1 guy.  if he is your #2 guy, your team is in the right direction, if rondo is ur #3 guy, ur a contender.

the reason rondo is mentioned in trade rumors is bc, from the standpoint of bball ability (and not for salary/contract reasons), he is the only real chip the celts got

TP for a rational assessment. Well done, sir.

[dark_lord]

The only thing I dont understand is that fans on this board are so desperate for top tier talent...and we have one..rondo

and they want to trade him for mediocre players and low picks as if he is jeff green or something and run him out of town.

i dont want to trade him for the sake of trading him, nor do i want to run him out of tow.  however, i dont think he is a top tier player, at least to be ur #1 guy.  if he is your #2 guy, your team is in the right direction, if rondo is ur #3 guy, ur a contender.

the reason rondo is mentioned in trade rumors is bc, from the standpoint of bball ability (and not for salary/contract reasons), he is the only real chip the celts got

TP for a rational assessment. Well done, sir.

thanks coach.  bo knows tps

[D.o.s.]

He's not the only real chip, though. He's not even the best trade chip this year.

from a bball standpoint, he is.  contracts/$ aside, and strictly bball ability, he is by far the best chip we have

Sure, but you're ignoring a big part of team construction if you say that, which seems like a bad way to measure a player's value to a general manager, who's job it is to build the team.

[LilRip]

  I like all the trades where the "why" for the other team talks about how they're desperate for a star player and desperate to win. Don't we want star players in Boston?

tim, i am curious with your thoughts about the following:

i dont want to trade him for the sake of trading him, nor do i want to run him out of tow.  however, i dont think he is a top tier player, at least to be ur #1 guy.  if he is your #2 guy, your team is in the right direction, if rondo is ur #3 guy, ur a contender.

the reason rondo is mentioned in trade rumors is bc, from the standpoint of bball ability (and not for salary/contract reasons), he is the only real chip the celts got

while I agree with you and give you a TP as a sign of my agreement, he will tell you that except for probably the first 2 years when the C's were in the hunt (07-08 and 08-09), Rondo has been the #1 player on this C's team all along, Pierce and KG be [dang]ed.