Ainge: Fans expectations of Jeff Green are not right

[BleedGreen1989]

Ainge was on his weekly segment on the Toucher and Rich Show and had this to say...

“Other than the LeBrons, Kevin Durants and Paul Georges of the world you really don’t get consistently 25, 30+ points a night,” said Ainge. “Most players don’t ever score 36 points in a game, and Jeff’s had two in the past two weeks. I think that’s just how Jeff is. He’s a very good player and not a superstar player where we expect him to do that.”

“I think the expectations of him are not right."

“$9 million a year expectations I think that’s what Celtics fans have,” Rich chimed in.

“Well $9 million is half of a maximum contract. Jeff is giving us 16, 17 points a game on a very efficient overall year he’s having. I think that’s what people should expect.”

[rondohondo]

He has said this many times ,and I agree , he is a role player.

Saying that, it doesn't make any sense to keep him on this roster. He makes us just good enough to fall out of the top 5 in this years lottery. He is not a key piece moving forward, and takes up a good chunk of the salary cap.

I fully expect danny to try and move him before the deadline.

[lon3lytoaster]

So it's wrong to expect consistency from Green, essentially.

I mean, after two, two and a half years we should know this, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Especially because he seems like he could do that whenever he doesn't hit the snooze button.

[CelticG1]

I think ainge is mostly right.

Green isnt getting massively over paid or anything. Maybe a tad but when you compare him to a lot of others it is a much more favorable deal.

hes gonna make more than the mid level sorry.

You can get on ainge for signing Jeff green period if you want but at that money and what Jeffs brought to the team its not some sort of albatross contract.

"they expect 9 million a year player" um yeah thats really not that much.

[CoachBo]

I think ainge is mostly right.

Green isnt getting massively over paid or anything. Maybe a tad but when you compare him to a lot of others it is a much more favorable deal.

hes gonna make more than the mid level sorry.

You can get on ainge for signing Jeff green period if you want but at that money and what Jeffs brought to the team its not some sort of albatross contract.

"they expect 9 million a year player" um yeah thats really not that much.

TP. Completely agree.

The only thing Green's done wrong is being traded for Wilt Perkins.

[Moranis]

Ainge has a misunderstanding of fans expectations.  I don't think anyone expects Green to score 25-30 every night, but there certainly should be an expectation of more consistency within his numbers.  He shouldn't have numbers that look like this:

39
16
8
14
18
8
36

That is too much of a yo-yo.  That is the issue.  Now granted his shot attempts are certainly more consistent, but his foul shot attempts are not (which is indicative of his lack of aggression a lot). 

Fans are frustrated by Green because he is frustratingly inconsistent.  Some games he looks like Lebron James and sometimes he looks like he doesn't belong in the league.  I'd be much happier with something in the middle.

[CelticG1]

So it's wrong to expect consistency from Green, essentially.

I mean, after two, two and a half years we should know this, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Especially because he seems like he could do that whenever he doesn't hit the snooze button.

Can anyone really take Celtics fans seriously when they talk about consistency?

I mean this has been Rondos celticsblog trademark for 7 years.

Everyone has their own tailored opinion of consistency and when the numbers dont back them up, or when they dont compare them to other similar plaers around the league they resort to them either not giving effort (rondo) or being passive (green)

Comparing Green to consistent guys like the first ballot hall of famers that were on this team is just wrong

[Moranis]

So it's wrong to expect consistency from Green, essentially.

I mean, after two, two and a half years we should know this, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Especially because he seems like he could do that whenever he doesn't hit the snooze button.

Can anyone really take Celtics fans seriously when they talk about consistency?

I mean this has been Rondos celticsblog trademark for 7 years.

Everyone has their own tailored opinion of consistency and when the numbers dont back them up, or when they dont compare them to other similar plaers around the league they resort to them either not giving effort (rondo) or being passive (green)

Comparing Green to consistent guys like the first ballot hall of famers that were on this team is just wrong

That is one of my issues with Rondo as well.  He just isn't consistent enough to be the sort of transcendant player people on this blog think he is. 

[Donoghus]

So it's wrong to expect consistency from Green, essentially.

I mean, after two, two and a half years we should know this, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Especially because he seems like he could do that whenever he doesn't hit the snooze button.

Can anyone really take Celtics fans seriously when they talk about consistency?

I mean this has been Rondos celticsblog trademark for 7 years.

Everyone has their own tailored opinion of consistency and when the numbers dont back them up, or when they dont compare them to other similar plaers around the league they resort to them either not giving effort (rondo) or being passive (green)

Comparing Green to consistent guys like the first ballot hall of famers that were on this team is just wrong

That is one of my issues with Rondo as well.  He just isn't consistent enough to be the sort of transcendant player people on this blog think he is.

He has a much better track record than Green, though. 

Playoff performances and stepping up in spotlight games have helped him not to mention that he seems to utilize his skills & potential in front of our eyes a lot more.

The bigger question has always been whether or not Rondo can be that guy.  That #1 to build around. 

[Enzzo]

For me, the expectation is not for Green to have monster 30+ point games every night. My expectation is for a professional athlete to go out and play their hardest every night.

If the shots don't fall, the shots don't fall. But some nights it seems like he just doesn't want the ball in his hands. I love Jeff Green and I really like having him here, I just want to see more of the aggressiveness he puts out some nights.

[D.o.s.]

I think ainge is mostly right.

Green isnt getting massively over paid or anything. Maybe a tad but when you compare him to a lot of others it is a much more favorable deal.

hes gonna make more than the mid level sorry.

You can get on ainge for signing Jeff green period if you want but at that money and what Jeffs brought to the team its not some sort of albatross contract.

"they expect 9 million a year player" um yeah thats really not that much.

TP. Completely agree.

The only thing Green's done wrong is being traded for Wilt Perkins.

Ha!

TP.

[CelticG1]

So it's wrong to expect consistency from Green, essentially.

I mean, after two, two and a half years we should know this, but it doesn't make it any less frustrating. Especially because he seems like he could do that whenever he doesn't hit the snooze button.

Can anyone really take Celtics fans seriously when they talk about consistency?

I mean this has been Rondos celticsblog trademark for 7 years.

Everyone has their own tailored opinion of consistency and when the numbers dont back them up, or when they dont compare them to other similar plaers around the league they resort to them either not giving effort (rondo) or being passive (green)

Comparing Green to consistent guys like the first ballot hall of famers that were on this team is just wrong

That is one of my issues with Rondo as well.  He just isn't consistent enough to be the sort of transcendant player people on this blog think he is.

I just hate the word consistency on this board.

1. Everyones definition of it is different so it usually becomes a pointless arguement

2. Simce everyone watches rondo and green probably 82 times a year they have a magnifying glass on and most likely arent seeing their peers 82 times each as well.

If you make the consistency arguement, and Im not necessarily disagreeing, id at least like to see peoples definitions as well as comparisons around ghe league with similar situations.

[pearljammer10]

This is what I have been preaching about Jeff Green all year. Thanks Danny Ainge for backing this up.

[Sketch5]

DA is spot on with Green.

some fans thought 9 mill should equal 25+ points a game, but how many players getting payed under 10 mill are averaging numbers like that? A hand full. And some of those guys are getting payed for what they did before their scoring outburst, like DeRozan.

Green would be a good second scoring punch next to an elite scorer. A guy who gets you around 15 every night, sometimes drops down to 8, but than can explode for 30+.

Also some of the bump of Greens contract might have a little to do with him letting the C's cut him the year he went down the the heart problem. Kind of a thanks for being a sport bonus. Which is a plus side to the organization.

Add a Melo or Love next to Green and you could have a good 1-2 punch. 

[Donoghus]

The people who thought a third banana would become a #1 guy were pretty off base with their expectations. 

If you had tempered expectations of Green based on his age & track record, your disappointment is probably a lot less although lack of consistency probably remains the bigggest qualm on him.  Heck, some people are probably not even disappointed.