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Cavaliers finally making the right move
« on: February 06, 2014, 12:33:07 PM »

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The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 12:35:31 PM »

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The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.

Gilbert should be more responsible! He's the owner, he should be laying out the rules and game plan for his entire organization. Lebron left 4 years ago, and the entire team is still trash. Irving failed to lead them to the playoffs, and they had like what? 3 Lottery picks

Irving, Waiters, and Bennet. Bennet is a bust. Waiters and Irving is immature.

Look at Portland, with all the injuries they had in Roy, and Oden, and look at them now. Top of their conference. Our team is going through a rebuild right now and we're still a better team than the Cavs and they've been building for 4 years!

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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 12:39:34 PM »

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yeah gilbert should be held responsible for hiring that doofus of a coach twice.

no one wants to play for this guy because his offense is boring.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 12:39:57 PM »

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 15s

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.

Gilbert should be more responsible! He's the owner, he should be laying out the rules and game plan for his entire organization. Lebron left 4 years ago, and the entire team is still trash. Irving failed to lead them to the playoffs, and they had like what? 3 Lottery picks

Irving, Waiters, and Bennet. Bennet is a bust. Waiters and Irving is immature.

Look at Portland, with all the injuries they had in Roy, and Oden, and look at them now. Top of their conference. Our team is going through a rebuild right now and we're still a better team than the Cavs and they've been building for 4 years!

Totally agree..that organization is a mess. I really thought they could do some damage this season, especially with the East being so terrible. At least be in playoff contentions.

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 12:40:36 PM »

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 15s

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.

Gilbert should be more responsible! He's the owner, he should be laying out the rules and game plan for his entire organization. Lebron left 4 years ago, and the entire team is still trash. Irving failed to lead them to the playoffs, and they had like what? 3 Lottery picks

Irving, Waiters, and Bennet. Bennet is a bust. Waiters and Irving is immature.

Look at Portland, with all the injuries they had in Roy, and Oden, and look at them now. Top of their conference. Our team is going through a rebuild right now and we're still a better team than the Cavs and they've been building for 4 years!

The GM is basically the scape goat. I agree Gilbert should quit, or retire, but why would he? The whole point of hiring a GM is so that owners don't have to do anything else, but just make money, and relax.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 12:41:06 PM »

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Rarely see this sort of thing happen midseason.  Really speaks to the level of incompetence there.
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 15s

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.

Fire the coach. He clearly is not nba caliber. Failed with Lebron. Got chased out of LA back to Cleveland. That's one franchise that should be erased and moved to Seattle 
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 12:56:37 PM »

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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 15s

The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired general manager Chris Grant, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

Next Gilbert.

Fire the coach. He clearly is not nba caliber. Failed with Lebron. Got chased out of LA back to Cleveland. That's one franchise that should be erased and moved to Seattle

Gotta think Mike Brown is going to be next.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2014, 01:00:52 PM »

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it will be interesting to see what happens with them at the trade deadline. Not sure who will be acting as GM  but will the plan be to salvage the season and try to make the playoffs or pack it in and try to do asset damage control by trading Deng and maybe Varajo?
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2014, 01:04:26 PM »

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Rarely see this sort of thing happen midseason.  Really speaks to the level of incompetence there.

  I posted this in another thread, but it's hard to go through the trade deadline with a GM that's trying to make trades that will save his job. What if he decides to trade Bennett and a #1 for Humphries because he thinks they might end up with more wins this year?

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2014, 01:05:35 PM »

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The writing was on the wall for weeks, if not months.  Not surprising.


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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2014, 01:06:19 PM »

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Grant wasn't that bad except at one thing, drafting with all those high lottery picks.

Still need to clean house, sadly the ownership is the biggest issue.

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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2014, 01:11:19 PM »

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Grant wasn't that bad except at one thing, drafting with all those high lottery picks.

Still need to clean house, sadly the ownership is the biggest issue.

That one thing is pretty significant though - they've had 4 picks that could've really been something. Kyrie Irving was a no-brainer and despite his lack for improvement from his rookie year, he's still a very talented young All-star. But Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett were reaches and not good ones. Grant was drafting based on need instead getting the best player available. That's fine for the second round when the risk isn't so high, but in the top 5? You have to draft talent. They feasibly could've had Kyrie Irving / Jonas Valanciunas / Harrison Barnes / Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore.

They could really have a good team by now. It's ashame those opportunities were wasted.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2014, 01:17:21 PM »

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So, with two weeks before the trading deadline, who is fielding/making calls in Cleveland?
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2014, 01:18:14 PM »

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Grant wasn't that bad except at one thing, drafting with all those high lottery picks.

Still need to clean house, sadly the ownership is the biggest issue.

That one thing is pretty significant though - they've had 4 picks that could've really been something. Kyrie Irving was a no-brainer and despite his lack for improvement from his rookie year, he's still a very talented young All-star. But Thompson, Waiters, and Bennett were reaches and not good ones. Grant was drafting based on need instead getting the best player available. That's fine for the second round when the risk isn't so high, but in the top 5? You have to draft talent. They feasibly could've had Kyrie Irving / Jonas Valanciunas / Harrison Barnes / Victor Oladipo or Ben McLemore.

They could really have a good team by now. It's ashame those opportunities were wasted.

I agree, to an extent. 

However, I will say that Cleveland lucked out into the wrong drafts to have top 5 picks.  Those were some pretty down drafts. 

However, in retrospect, you can certainly say that they could've picked better and you wouldn't necessarily be wrong.


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