Olynyk

[Smitty77]

I didn't see the game today.  Can someone tell me why Olynyk only played 8 minutes today??  I know he had 2 fouls, but come on?  Are we showcasing Bass and playing him a lot to try to trade him or what??  Jeff Green was evidently HORRIBLE (+3 efficiency rating I think) today and playing him 36 minutes makes NO sense.  Talk about damaging his darn trade value!!!

Also, we send Fav down to the Red Claws to get him minutes and he plays pretty well up there and he plays ZERO minutes. 

I am having a hard time understanding the plan Danny!!!!

Why in the world did we try so hard to win this game??

Smitty77

[pokeKingCurtis]

Didn't get to watch but I'm guessing:

Bass was playing well.

Stevens rides the hot hand.

[nickagneta]

Very seldom are coaches told who to play and who not to play by front office personnel. For that reason, showcasing is more a product of fan imagination than it is a reality. The fact is, coaches play who they think deserve to play based on what they have seen in games and practice because they are trying to win games.

Now coaches often don't play players that deserve playing time as a punishment to discipline them for bad attitude, lack of effort, locker room problems and so forth but seldom are players not played to showcase other players for future trades. Players values are usually fairly established and no amount of showcasing is going to change that value. Again, this tends to be something made up by fans, especially after the advent of fantasy basketball.

So given all this, its most likely Stevens limited Olynyk's minutes because

1. He wasn't playing well(he wasn't)
2. He didn't like the match up(probably not it)
3. He was disciplining him(who knows if that is true)
4. Someone in front of him on the depth chart was playing well and was hot so he got the time(in this case, yes, Sully was playing great in the 2nd half)

[Celtics4ever]

He is what he is and I see him as a backup at 4/5.   I think Humph's emergence has placed him on the bench.   He is soft and not an athlete.   Some un-athletic guys have made it in the league but they were not soft.    I bet a guy like Anthony bangs him hard in practice and re-enforces this weakness in the coach's eyes.  A guy like Hump probably dunks on him.  Sully can bang him around.   I think they should send him down to Maine to get him some confidence.

[ssspence]

I think Ainge is a very good GM, but his draft history has been below average for some time... certainly since the Rondo pick.

Other than Sully (who was a slam dunk when taken), the choices have been misses for the most part. Bradley was a solid choice, though not a reach at all.

Olynyk's limitations were very clear. It's what frustates me about not takign a shot at GA, as many of us hoped. When you know you're getting a 10th man, why trade up for him when you could take a prospect?

[BballTim]

I think Ainge is a very good GM, but his draft history has been below average for some time... certainly since the Rondo pick.

Other than Sully (who was a slam dunk when taken), the choices have been misses for the most part. Bradley was a solid choice, though not a reach at all.

Olynyk's limitations were very clear. It's what frustates me about not takign a shot at GA, as many of us hoped. When you know you're getting a 10th man, why trade up for him when you could take a prospect?

  Davis was a good pick, so was Bradley, so was Sully (you can't just dismiss Danny's best recent draft pick by declaring him a "slam dunk") and Olynyk hasn't been that bad compared to the rest of the draft. Considering Danny's draft position he's done fairly well.

[pokeKingCurtis]

I think Ainge is a very good GM, but his draft history has been below average for some time... certainly since the Rondo pick.

Other than Sully (who was a slam dunk when taken), the choices have been misses for the most part. Bradley was a solid choice, though not a reach at all.

Olynyk's limitations were very clear. It's what frustates me about not takign a shot at GA, as many of us hoped. When you know you're getting a 10th man, why trade up for him when you could take a prospect?

People are focusing on how Ainge ""whiffed"" on Giannis.

It's too early to judge Olynyk. It's also too early to judge Giannis.

Again, perspective. People wanted Shabazz Muhammed. People wanted Dennis Shroeder. Some people were calling MCW a probable bust.

Sure. If you presume Olynyk won't improve one single bit he'd be a tenth man. So, at the very least you have an NBA player who can play minutes.

Looking at the list of 2013 draftees, I could imagine Olynyk potentially playing more minutes and contributing more than any of the draftees in his range and, hell, some picks in the top 10.






Ainge's biggest misses were also misses by other GMs. DeAndre Jordan (and General Zod on the Timberwolves?) wasn't drafted until several spots after Ainge drafted. Chandler Parsons was mid second.




And you were talking about AB? Some people wanted James Andersen, drafted immediately after AB.

Dominique Jones and Damion James were drafted after AB, too...who the hell are they!?

[wiley]

Olynyk's gift is scoring.  It's going to make or break him.  Score = make.  Don't score = break. 

In order to score he's got to get rid of uncertainty.  There's  fine line between high IQ and overthinking.....right now he's often on the Scalabrine-like overthinking side of things.  He's got to get over that line onto the other side where the only thing in his mind is
attack by any means necessary, even if attack means confidently tossing up a three-pointer.  His job is to stay in that mode even if he misses a few, or even more than a few. 

[Tr1boy]

It's been one year. It's not like he has been banished to the D league like Melo was last year.

He understands the game but is lacking strength and then from there confidence to make damamage

Lets wait until next year before critizing him harshly

[Smitty77]

I think Ainge is a very good GM, but his draft history has been below average for some time... certainly since the Rondo pick.

Other than Sully (who was a slam dunk when taken), the choices have been misses for the most part. Bradley was a solid choice, though not a reach at all.

Olynyk's limitations were very clear. It's what frustates me about not takign a shot at GA, as many of us hoped. When you know you're getting a 10th man, why trade up for him when you could take a prospect?

I just typed a LONG list of Danny's drafts since 2003 and lost it.  I will NOT re-do it!!!!!  Dang it!!!!!  Needless to say, I will put Danny's drafting overall record up against ANY GM in the entire league!!!!

Smitty77

[LooseCannon]

Olynyk's gift is scoring.  It's going to make or break him.  Score = make.  Don't score = break. 

What's going to make or break him is defense.  He doesn't have to be good, he just needs to be acceptable on things such as defensive rotations.

[celtic -_- pride]

im not gonna say im a tanker because thats just an ugly term and is used far too much. im a strategist, yeap i said it. we are not a good team. we play hard and lose which is a sign we need to change the roster up. ive been advocating trading bass to open up some minutes. move bass to throw olynyk into the fire. hes playing with his tail between his legs and thats just not gonna cut it in the nba. let him get bullied for the rest of the year so he realizes what he has to do. bulk up and stop being a sally. he also needs to change his face, sometimes he makes this face that gives me the impression he sucks on his fingers and drools when he eats. but other than that i like him. he's got good IQ not great. capable rebounded and has a shooting touch

[NikoZea]

I didn't see the game today.  Can someone tell me why Olynyk only played 8 minutes today??  I know he had 2 fouls, but come on?  Are we showcasing Bass and playing him a lot to try to trade him or what??  Jeff Green was evidently HORRIBLE (+3 efficiency rating I think) today and playing him 36 minutes makes NO sense.  Talk about damaging his darn trade value!!!

Also, we send Fav down to the Red Claws to get him minutes and he plays pretty well up there and he plays ZERO minutes. 

I am having a hard time understanding the plan Danny!!!!

Why in the world did we try so hard to win this game??

Smitty77

The front office tanks by stripping the roster of talent and investing in the future. They don't tell the coaches who to play and who to showcase. They are trying to win games.

[vinnie]

Tommy told Jackie M. and Gorman during the game that Olynyk was going to be a "sensational" player. Jackie didn't respond and neither did Mike. I turned the TV off. Tommy needs to retire. Olynyk could end up with a decent career. but he won't be "sensational." As for why he got so few minutes today, he looked terrible in the time he was out there.

[indeedproceed]

Tommy told Jackie M. and Gorman during the game that Olynyk was going to be a "sensational" player. Jackie didn't respond and neither did Mike. I turned the TV off. Tommy needs to retire. Olynyk could end up with a decent career. but he won't be "sensational." As for why he got so few minutes today, he looked terrible in the time he was out there.

Homer announcers are annoying, unless they're homers for your team. Tommy is like our own private JIm Ross. Wouldn't trade him for all the Marv Alberts in the world.