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Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2014, 05:27:37 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

So Ainge should pony up and pay Rondo max, or near max, money based on past performances? Rondo simply isn't worth that amount.
Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2014, 05:32:45 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

To clarify the bolded, because it's a misleading pair of sentences--Rondo signed his contract extension in 2009, and then made four straight all star teams (2010-13). If you look at Rondo's career before his contract extension there's a paucity of accolades or awards.

Also, to answer your questions--Steph Curry and Ty Lawson for the first question.

For the second one--players who are demonstrably as good as Rondo was when he signed the extension that aren't worth max money: Kyrie Irving comes to mind first. Damian Lillard, probably.

  Thanks, I did word that poorly. The "Rondo's previous contract" part mucked the post up. So, to clarify my questions:

  Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team.

  How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts?

  How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes?


Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2014, 05:33:51 PM »

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Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

What if we had Derrick Rose on our team instead of Rajon Rondo? Would you have felt the same way then? I suspect no.
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Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2014, 05:40:54 PM »

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Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

What if we had Derrick Rose on our team instead of Rajon Rondo? Would you have felt the same way then? I suspect no.
Rose is obscenely overrated.  I wouldn't give him max money either... Especially now that his career has taken a nose dive.  But at least when he was healthy he could carry an offense

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2014, 05:43:07 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

So Ainge should pony up and pay Rondo max, or near max, money based on past performances? Rondo simply isn't worth that amount.

  He said pre-injury Rondo. Who was worth that amount.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2014, 05:46:30 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

So Ainge should pony up and pay Rondo max, or near max, money based on past performances? Rondo simply isn't worth that amount.
Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

  Ainge has offered Rondo something, the maximum allowable offer with the understanding that he'll offer him more when he can. I'd say the difference (offer him nothing vs offer him the max allowable amount) is a good indication of how wide the gulf is between your opinion of Rondo and Danny's opinion of Rondo.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2014, 05:48:40 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

So Ainge should pony up and pay Rondo max, or near max, money based on past performances? Rondo simply isn't worth that amount.
Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

  Ainge has offered Rondo something, the maximum allowable offer with the understanding that he'll offer him more when he can. I'd say the difference (offer him nothing vs offer him the max allowable amount) is a good indication of how wide the gulf is between your opinion of Rondo and Danny's opinion of Rondo.
Or he's just anxious to lock him up so he will have an easier time trading him. 

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2014, 06:05:38 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

So Ainge should pony up and pay Rondo max, or near max, money based on past performances? Rondo simply isn't worth that amount.
Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury.  Right now he's playing at a vet minimum level.  If Ainge has offered Rondo money close to what he was making before (12 mil a year), Rondo should think hard about taking it.  His all-star days are most likely behind him.

  Ainge has offered Rondo something, the maximum allowable offer with the understanding that he'll offer him more when he can. I'd say the difference (offer him nothing vs offer him the max allowable amount) is a good indication of how wide the gulf is between your opinion of Rondo and Danny's opinion of Rondo.
Or he's just anxious to lock him up so he will have an easier time trading him.

  See how you did that? Immediately jump from "Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything until he proves he can perform close to as well as he did prior to his injury" to "Danny's trying to sign him to a big money extension so he'll be easier to trade"? Wow.

  I guess you being in the "Ainge shouldn't offer Rondo anything" camp while other nba teams are in the "Rondo would be more desirable if he was on a large(ish) extension" camp also highlights the difference between your view of Rondo and theirs.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2014, 06:05:57 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

How many players in their 20's ever got to play with similar team mates like KG, Pierce and Ray Allen in a situation like Rondo's? 
Has there ever been an All Star point guard that's as poor a shooter as Rondo from the FT line and 3 point line?

Do you believe Rondo is worth a max contract right now?

He's talking about testing the free agent market which he could be saying for a number of reasons. Although other 'superstars' as you put Rondo like Dwight, Carmelo, Lebron all said the same thing. Durant and Westbrook didn't though.

Just pointing out the reasoning behind why people might disagree with you.

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Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2014, 06:15:17 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

Well we must wait unless we get an offer that blows us away.  He's at an all time low right now and is playing on one leg. Would you give up anything of value for him? One year of Rondo healthy is more valuable than 18 months of Rondo   as a shell of his former self.

It would be stupid of Ainge to sell low before he's had a chance to recover. It took KG ages to recover and you've gotta give Rondo a few months to get close to 85% of what he's possibly capable of.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

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Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2014, 06:16:36 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

To clarify the bolded, because it's a misleading pair of sentences--Rondo signed his contract extension in 2009, and then made four straight all star teams (2010-13). If you look at Rondo's career before his contract extension there's a paucity of accolades or awards.

Also, to answer your questions--Steph Curry and Ty Lawson for the first question.

For the second one--players who are demonstrably as good as Rondo was when he signed the extension that aren't worth max money: Kyrie Irving comes to mind first. Damian Lillard, probably.

  Thanks, I did word that poorly. The "Rondo's previous contract" part mucked the post up. So, to clarify my questions:

  Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team.

  How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts?

  How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes?
 
Kevin Love?

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2014, 06:28:44 PM »

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"Rondo and the Celtics discussed a possible extension of his current deal recently, but those talks were largely perfunctory. Negotiations will heat up this summer when the Celtics will look to tack three years onto the final year of Rondo's current contract, offering him a quality raise and locking him in at a moderate salary that would allow the team to add quality pieces around him.

If Rondo reaches free agency after the 2014-15 season, he'll be able to command a much larger salary and drive up his price tag on the open market.

While the Celtics have remained steadfast that they have no current plans to trade Rondo, they might have to ponder that scenario a bit more if they are unable to work out an extension this summer, or risk leaving themselves a bit exposed if he reaches free agency after next season."

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/10383583/rajon-rondo-boston-celtics-admits-being-intrigued-free-agency


If Cs don't get him signed this summer, he's gone IMO.  I don't see DA signing him to a max contract in free agency.

Agree

I also think if we get a top 3 pick, rondo could also be traded on draft night because that top pick won't reach his prime until rondo's exiting his.
Something like rondo to charlotte for their det pick(#10 right now) and MKG
The longer we wait the less valuable he becomes. His trade value is already at an all time low thanks to his awful post-injury play.  Without an extension locked in, who wants to rent a post prime rondo for one season?

If Ainge pays pre-injury Rondo max money, he's lost his mind.

And he's not going to get max money in free agency without his terrible post-injury performance turning around. It will - but anyone who says they know the extent to which it will is lying.

  That would include people who claim he won't make a full recovery. As for the pre-injury Rondo getting max money, I'd guess that when Danny signed Rondo to his current contract you'd have said he was out of his mind then. But Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team. How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts? How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes? Can you name a single one?

To clarify the bolded, because it's a misleading pair of sentences--Rondo signed his contract extension in 2009, and then made four straight all star teams (2010-13). If you look at Rondo's career before his contract extension there's a paucity of accolades or awards.

Also, to answer your questions--Steph Curry and Ty Lawson for the first question.

For the second one--players who are demonstrably as good as Rondo was when he signed the extension that aren't worth max money: Kyrie Irving comes to mind first. Damian Lillard, probably.

  Thanks, I did word that poorly. The "Rondo's previous contract" part mucked the post up. So, to clarify my questions:

  Rondo was on 4 straight all-star teams and an all-nba team.

  How many players in their 20s (that aren't on rookie contracts) come close to matching level of play and aren't on max contracts?

  How many players on that level who are on rookie contracts shouldn't get max contracts when the time comes?
 
Kevin Love?

  He was a 2 time all-star who hadn't made his first all-nba team at the time, but good pick. TP.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2014, 06:29:40 PM »

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http://celticshub.com/2014/01/31/rajon-rondo-on-his-potential-free-agency-it-intrigues-me/
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Upon being asked about the report, Rondo responded with a blunt “Already?” to the question about his contract, but saying he had no response to the report.
Things got more interesting from there in the Q-and-A.

Reporter: Is free agency something that intrigues you?

Rondo: “It is.”

Reporter: Something you’ve thought about?

Rondo: “I haven’t thought about it. I’ve just thought about getting my leg as strong as possible, continue to shake off the rust this year and come back even better next.”

What about free agency intrigues you?

“It’s kind of like, I would say, maybe college recruiting. I’m pretty sure a lot more goes into it in the NBA. A lot more money is spent. I’ve heard stories, guys getting called right at midnight. It’s something that I haven’t experienced. I may want to go through it. I haven’t thought about it at all.”

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2014, 06:43:38 PM »

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I mean can not say never ever .....I said that about things in my life and  ended up doing exactly the thing I said I never ever do...

Sure he has mull the situation s out there and do what is right for Rondo.......he is at a crossroads in his career so to speak .....play out the rest of your best years with celtics or go elsewhere.


Hard choice.

Re: Report: Rajon Rondo "intrigued" by Free Agency in 2015
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2014, 07:00:12 PM »

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How many players in their 20's ever got to play with similar team mates like KG, Pierce and Ray Allen in a situation like Rondo's?

  I'd guess a lot more than you think. But are you talking about 2008 big three or the fringe all-stars of the last few years?
 
Has there ever been an All Star point guard that's as poor a shooter as Rondo from the FT line and 3 point line?

  Possibly not. But a 4-time all-star he is. He made those all-star games because of his overall level of play, where he does many things well enough that he's still one of the top guards in the league in spite of his shooting. It's not like he made 1 team as a fluke selection.

  I think a better question is, how many point guards have there been that would have been regular all-stars if they shot (and hit free throws) like Rondo? How many point guards would be regular all-stars if they never scored more than 14 ppg?

  It's true that he's not a great shooter. It's also true that he's been one of the best point guards in the league for a while. It's useful to notice what he does poorly, it's equally useful to notice what he does well and how well he does those things.