Sam Amico on Jeff Green: Watch for Rockets, Keep Hearing Nuggets

[Chris]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

[ssspence]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

Miller and Randy Whitman... that'd be a fun, combustible combo to watch.

[D.o.s.]

Always liked Andre Miller.

But I think he really should be on a team that's poised to make a deeper post-season run than we are.

Would have loved to have had Miller last year or the year before for our playoff run. Love his game. But at this point he wouldnt provide much for us and he wouldn't enjoy playing for a non contending team at this point.

Agreed entirely. I think he'd be a great backup for John Wall, now that it's been brought up.

[PhoSita]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

I think I'd target a mid-1st and cap relief for Green as the minimum.  I think some team will give us better than a late 1st (though perhaps not in this draft).

[Evantime34]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

I think I'd target a mid-1st and cap relief for Green as the minimum.  I think some team will give us better than a late 1st (though perhaps not in this draft).

I hope we can get that much for trading Green but Im not that confident.

[PhoSita]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

I think I'd target a mid-1st and cap relief for Green as the minimum.  I think some team will give us better than a late 1st (though perhaps not in this draft).

I hope we can get that much for trading Green but Im not that confident.

Well, I don't think there's a huge rush to trade Green.  Obviously the team isn't going to be "too good" if we keep him, and he's got a couple years left on the contract so there's time to find a good deal.

I'm not super high on Green as a player, but I don't think it makes sense to dump him just for cap relief and a pick in the late 20s.

[BleedGreen1989]

Miller alone isn't enough for Green

Right.  Green isn't a straight salary dump.  I think Miller could make for an interesting three way trade though.

Something like C's get Vesely and a first rounder from Denver gets Green and a second rounder from Washington, Washington gets Miller

In that scenario the C's get cap relief and a late first for Green (seems about right), Denver gets the player and trades a first rounder for a second.  And Washington gets a backup PG and leader to help them on a playoff run.

I think I'd target a mid-1st and cap relief for Green as the minimum.  I think some team will give us better than a late 1st (though perhaps not in this draft).

I hope we can get that much for trading Green but Im not that confident.

Well, I don't think there's a huge rush to trade Green.  Obviously the team isn't going to be "too good" if we keep him, and he's got a couple years left on the contract so there's time to find a good deal.

I'm not super high on Green as a player, but I don't think it makes sense to dump him just for cap relief and a pick in the late 20s.

Yeah, I agree on both points.

No rush to trade Green. He's still 27 years old and isn't standing in the way of a top pick.

Also, not very interested in cap relief and a late first either. Unless a team takes Wallace as well but that's certainly a pipe dream.

[boscel33]

Eh. I'm not sure how real Amico is.

Finally someone else who like me knows the truth!

Sam Amico is an elaborate sock puppet of Wojo to make him look even better.

So, I wonder who this forum believes are "valid" writers?  Seems I've seen many times where they poo-poo a rumor because they don't like the source.  This includes once last year when talking about a Bleacher Report rumor concerning Ryan Mallett, that, oh by the way, was a validated rumor by others later on. 

I'm going to say, hey since "Sam Amico is a national NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com. He formerly covered the league for NBA.com and is the founding editor of ProBasketballNews.com. His NBA coverage has also appeared in USA Today and the Boston Herald, and on CBSSports.com and HoopsHype.com", I'll consider him a viable source.

[D.o.s.]

Eh. I'm not sure how real Amico is.

Finally someone else who like me knows the truth!

Sam Amico is an elaborate sock puppet of Wojo to make him look even better.

So, I wonder who this forum believes are "valid" writers?  Seems I've seen many times where they poo-poo a rumor because they don't like the source.  This includes once last year when talking about a Bleacher Report rumor concerning Ryan Mallett, that, oh by the way, was a validated rumor by others later on. 

I'm going to say, hey since "Sam Amico is a national NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com. He formerly covered the league for NBA.com and is the founding editor of ProBasketballNews.com. His NBA coverage has also appeared in USA Today and the Boston Herald, and on CBSSports.com and HoopsHype.com", I'll consider him a viable source.

Amico is a solid sports writer. But when it comes to being a breaking news source, he's hardly reliable--and track record matters a lot when it comes to sifting through all the trade rumours.

Woj, for example, doesn't tend to report things unless they're about to happen. The Same can't be said for Stephen A Smith--who is also a solid sports writer, for the record.

In fact, I'd say that most people pay attention to Woj strictly for his twitter feed, since his articles are, uh, of a certain archaic style that doesn't appeal to many people in the present day.

[fairweatherfan]

Eh. I'm not sure how real Amico is.

Finally someone else who like me knows the truth!

Sam Amico is an elaborate sock puppet of Wojo to make him look even better.

So, I wonder who this forum believes are "valid" writers?  Seems I've seen many times where they poo-poo a rumor because they don't like the source.  This includes once last year when talking about a Bleacher Report rumor concerning Ryan Mallett, that, oh by the way, was a validated rumor by others later on. 

I'm going to say, hey since "Sam Amico is a national NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com. He formerly covered the league for NBA.com and is the founding editor of ProBasketballNews.com. His NBA coverage has also appeared in USA Today and the Boston Herald, and on CBSSports.com and HoopsHype.com", I'll consider him a viable source.

There's a difference between being a decent writer and being someone who's legitimately plugged in to what's happening around the league.  Trade rumors fall squarely into the second category.

Amico's accuracy rate on rumors like this is really low, and he's even saying in the comment that he's speculating on where Green might go and isn't even sure if one of the teams' interest "is real".  Taking it with a major grain of salt is perfectly reasonable.

[D.o.s.]

There's a difference between being a decent writer and being someone who's legitimately plugged in to what's happening around the league.  Trade rumors fall squarely into the second category.

Amico's accuracy rate on rumors like this is really low, and he's even saying in the comment that he's speculating on where Green might go and isn't even sure if one of the teams' interest "is real".  Taking it with a major grain of salt is perfectly reasonable.

[Fafnir]

Eh. I'm not sure how real Amico is.

Finally someone else who like me knows the truth!

Sam Amico is an elaborate sock puppet of Wojo to make him look even better.

So, I wonder who this forum believes are "valid" writers?  Seems I've seen many times where they poo-poo a rumor because they don't like the source.  This includes once last year when talking about a Bleacher Report rumor concerning Ryan Mallett, that, oh by the way, was a validated rumor by others later on. 

I'm going to say, hey since "Sam Amico is a national NBA columnist for FOXSports.com and FOXSportsOhio.com. He formerly covered the league for NBA.com and is the founding editor of ProBasketballNews.com. His NBA coverage has also appeared in USA Today and the Boston Herald, and on CBSSports.com and HoopsHype.com", I'll consider him a viable source.

As others have said his track record is that he doesn't have connections that are reliable around the league. When he reports a "rumor" if it didn't come from somewhere else its most likely just speculation or flat out misinformation he's been fed.

I'm not a huge fan of his writing either, but its not bad. I don't actively dislike it like Woj's for example though.

Mostly I wanted to poke fun at Lucky17's sentence in an oblique way. Sam Amico is certainly real, but this rumor is likely not. Being very literal when its not appropriate deliberately is math guy humor  .

[Lucky17]

I was being serious when I said Sam Amico isn't real.

I'm pretty sure he's Sam Amick's evil alter ego. Amick just wears a fake goatee and a monocle when he's twittering false rumors as "Amico". An Internet Jekyll and Hyde, if you will. And you will.

[Fafnir]

I was being serious when I said Sam Amico isn't real.

I'm pretty sure he's Sam Amick's evil alter ego. Amick just wears a fake goatee and a monocle when he's twittering false rumors as "Amico". An Internet Jekyll and Hyde, if you will. And you will.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[pokeKingCurtis]

He's a good player. I'm guessing (s)he's a fan.

Kind of like how we'd have been stoked to get Gerald Wallace, I'm guessing, had it not been for all the crap that surrounded that trade.

I don't see the comparison between Miller and Wallace, other than that they're both old.  Miller can still play; Wallace can't.

I don't know how any Celtics fan could have been excited to get Wallace, when he's been in decline for four straight years and has a bad long-term contract.  I thought everyone basically saw his deal as the medicine we had to take to get three future Nets #1s.

Perhaps a better comparison, a better "what if" is if we'd have gotten Reggie Evans in the Nets deal.

I'd have been a little happy even though he wouldn't have contributed much anyway. "Cool, Reggie Evans in Green, solid player".