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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2014, 11:54:50 PM »

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It's all good, people. This isn't an underperforming contender, such as we've had the last several regular seasons. This team isn't supposed to be that good, and it's by design. Enjoy watching the young guys develop, and look forward to the trade deadline and the draft/offseason. I think this will be a much different team next season.
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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2014, 01:33:12 AM »

Offline LarBrd33

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It's all good, people. This isn't an underperforming contender, such as we've had the last several regular seasons. This team isn't supposed to be that good, and it's by design. Enjoy watching the young guys develop, and look forward to the trade deadline and the draft/offseason. I think this will be a much different team next season.
Last few regular season we were actually an overachieving also-ran... certainly not an underachieving contender. 

This season, our team doesn't have a single player who can consistently score.  We have weak big men.  Our best player has been absolutely horrible through 6 games.  We might be slightly better than this, but our record could actually be a lot worse than it is right now.  Stevens had this team overachieving earlier this year.

Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2014, 05:16:31 AM »

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I think right now with Bayless and Bradley out, plus Rondo not quite back this is about how good we should be. We have no one besides Green who can create his own shot and Green rarely does. You can't win many games if you can't score.

Who should he have signed/drafted?  He was pretty hamstrung by the salary cap and low draft picks.
On a lot of those shots Green was firing up in the first half, he wasn't even close.  We actually have no one who can create their own shot..which is one of the reasons why the record is as poor as it is.

Not only do they not create their own shot but they're not good enough shooters to hit anything consistently. One of Ainge's big failings is a failure to draft or sign any offensive threats to supplement the big 3 as they aged. I like "smart" players and defensive guys but at some point you need to be able to put the ball in the hoop.

Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2014, 06:46:25 AM »

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I would have been content to lose all 82 games by 1 point. I think it's important this season for the young players to continue to grow and for the team to evaluate who stays and who goes. Yes, they were overachieving early this year. Now, however, they are underachieving. I mean what's changed? Rondo replaced Crawford? Even in Rondo's wounded state, that can't be bad. AB out? That's a problem, especially defensively, etc. etc.

I'm afraid the players finally get it, which started when Lee was traded. Yes, Danny wants to tank, so why should I bust my butt and try to win the game? KG and Ray aren't walking through that door. This will be a slow process. It will go smoother if the players continue to give max effort, which with few exceptions (like Hump), isn't happening right now.

I think Brad is losing some of these guys, plus they've got one eye on the rumor mill. That doesn't help much.

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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2014, 07:06:37 AM »

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This team is bad..i said before the season started that if they win 25 games Stevens should get coach of the year lol...Rondo also has no All Stars players around him
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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2014, 08:11:32 AM »

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I think the team is pretty weak right now. With Jordan Crawford (who was playing reasonably well) and Courtney Lee traded + Avery Bradley injured + Rondo's return but clearly not playing at a high level + Sullinger tailing off since his injury.

I think those losses via trades and injuries have hurt the team ... but I don't feel comfortable putting all of this on those issues because the bad run of form started well before then.

So, I do think those issues are the main reason for the last 5 games or so + and that the team really is just that bad at this moment in time + that there isn't much to be done about it until some of Boston's guys get healthy again.

But once those guys do get healthy, I do think this team has a pretty decent talent base and should not be in the bottom five of the NBA. In that 8-12 range is where I expect them to be.

Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2014, 08:14:17 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.

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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2014, 08:35:53 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.

It's really strange how our two most stacked positions are now undermanned.

Bass has been underwhelming (to be expected since he basically defines complimentary player). Sully injured. Olynyk too young. Faverani too young. So funnily enough I'm thinking he has nobody but Hump to man the 5 and the 4.

And at the 2, AB, who takes up about 30 minutes a game at least, is injured. So another gap despite us still having, what, 4 shooting guards?

Meanwhile our SFs are healthy as heck.

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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2014, 08:58:31 AM »

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Sullinger's tailing off and Crawford/Lee being gone has removed so much of what worked well for us offensively.

Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2014, 09:00:03 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.
Yeah, though given how Bass hasn't played as well I'm not sure what better options there are. Favarani is a disaster on defense, missing simple plays all the time. (not being in help position when the call was to front Melo and having the entire team yell "V" at once just sticks in my brain from last night)

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« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2014, 09:17:58 AM »

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Well it sure doesn't look like we have too many keepers.

I'd just as well sit Sully until he is fully healthy, but he's probably a keeper.  And Rondo of course.

Bradley seems to get hurt a lot, but he's probably a keeper at a moderate price.  His offense is fool's gold; contract year mid-range chucking when the defense gives that low-percentage shot.  He's not a sure-fire keeper.

Actually, I don't think anyone on the roster really is, although a few could be, depending on who else comes in.

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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2014, 09:23:43 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.

Not sure there's a better option really though.

Not sure I agree that he is a selfish player who pursues his own stats as opposed to playing team basketball.

He actually seems quite unselfish to me and is more than willing to do the dirty work.

He's a garbage man so he has his fair share of flaws but he would of been an ideal player to have in the previous era.
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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2014, 09:25:25 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.

Not sure there's a better option really though.

Not sure I agree that he is a selfish player who pursues his own stats as opposed to playing team basketball.

He actually seems quite unselfish to me and is more than willing to do the dirty work.

He's a garbage man so he has his fair share of flaws but he would of been an ideal player to have in the previous era.
Being a hustle guy and garbage man aren't incompatible with being a selfish basketball player.

Matt Barnes effect in play on this (or Corey Brewer) just because a guy is energy guy doesn't mean he's good defensively. Same thing holds true for being a team player in my book.

Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2014, 09:40:55 AM »

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I'm giving this team a pass until the trading deadline, Rondo is just coming back, Bradley is hurt and some of the other guys are probably effected by the uncertainty around the team.

I expect them to play this poorly until the Lakers the day after the trade deadline. At that point Bradley will come back, Rondo will have improved and we will go from Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ty to just kind of smelly.
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Re: They should be better than this..
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2014, 09:51:47 AM »

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I also think Kris Humphries is playing too many minutes.

Bad things have happened to every team he has been on in the NBA when his minutes get too high. He is a weak defensive player, a bad passer and has a low skill-level as a scorer. Lack of BBIQ. A player who pursues his own stats rather than works for his team. Self-involved player. It's no coincidence that Boston's defense has gotten worse since his playing time picked up.

Not sure there's a better option really though.

Not sure I agree that he is a selfish player who pursues his own stats as opposed to playing team basketball.

He actually seems quite unselfish to me and is more than willing to do the dirty work.

He's a garbage man so he has his fair share of flaws but he would of been an ideal player to have in the previous era.
Being a hustle guy and garbage man aren't incompatible with being a selfish basketball player.

Matt Barnes effect in play on this (or Corey Brewer) just because a guy is energy guy doesn't mean he's good defensively. Same thing holds true for being a team player in my book.

I suppose it just seems unfair to me to label Kris a selfish player. I haven't seen anything that would indicate selfish basketball.
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