What's the grace period on Rondo?

[LarBrd33]

So far he's been horrible.  We've played just as bad with him.  I know he's rusty and coming off a major injury.  It's still way too early and all of this was very predictable, but for reference I want to know how long we are supposed to give him until we can fairly judge him as the leader of this team.   

Some members of this forum remain adamant that Rondo is a "superstar".    So far he's averaging 6.6 points, 5.8 assists, 4.2 rebounds, 1 steal 3.2 turnovers on a laughably pathetic  25%/24%/40% shooting.   Obviously he will improve, but how long should we expect until he's superstarring?

[pokeKingCurtis]

More than 5 games, that's for sure.

[AidaCelt]

September 2014 - when he should have a good base in readiness for 2014/15 season

[RRNoLookPass]

Yeah, you're right. That near triple double of his lastnight was laughable, and horrible at the same time. 

The fact that he could come close to a triple double with such a depleted team, and so few offensive weapons to pass to, is pretty impressive. I mean, Gerald Wallace started at SG last night. That should pretty much sum up the state of this team right now. Yet the C's still kept it close for the majority of the game, and even led the game for much of the first half.
And that's with the bulk of the SG minutes being split between Gerald I-Don't-Shoot-Anymore Wallace, and D-League Pickup Chris Johnson #2. (Whom I actually like a lot, for the record, but playing a d-leaguer 28mins shows how depleted this team really is right now).


To answer your question about when you can start judging Rondo--- well, you clearly already have, so why bother? According to a post of yours in another thread about Rondo not meshing with Green, you said something to the extent of Rondo being crap so far, and his trade value is already plummeting. So you're clearly already judging him, I mean torching him, anyways. And I think GMs realize that it takes more than 5games for players to work their way back into a groove after ACL surgery. Despite the 6TOs, some of which came from teammates fumbling passes, I'd say most GMs around the league were pretty impressed by his all-around game lastnight, a mere 5games into his return from ACL recovery.

[Quetzalcoatl]

He will be fine.  That being said, don't get too excited after he rips the FARTDOG Knicks tomorrow, either.  We're about to play them, then the 6ers, Magic, 6ers and Kings within the next couple weeks in that order.  He should be looking a lot better after the All-Star Break, that's for sure

/Knicks reference: http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2013/12/11/5198220/recap-cavaliers-109-knicks-94-december-kyrie-irving

[Fafnir]

I'd say this thread indicates 5 games for you, but given your threads about him earlier the number was zero.

Based on what other Athletes have said coming back from injury, at least 1 month probably more like 2.

His rebounding, assists, steals, and turnovers are all not that far off his norm. More defensive boards than usual with less offensive rebounds, not surprised by that as he's not as cavalier about crashing the glass on that end.

His shooting is the one area that its a glaring issue, beyond that the eye test shows that he doesn't have the ability to penetrate with the dribble right now. That has to come back before his game will.

[PhoSita]

If we don't begin to see signs of pre-injury Rondo before mid-March / early April, I think that would be cause for legitimate concern.

[D.o.s.]

If he was being genuine about not returning until he was 100%, then ASB.

[Donoghus]

I said in another thread last week that I don't expect him to be 100% at all this season and that my grace period is sometime during the 2014-2015 season.

I'm not gonna set a drop dead date but I'd say a third to a halfway through next season mark.

[D.o.s.]

I said in another thread last week that I don't expect him to be 100% at all this season and that my grace period is sometime during the 2014-2015 season.

I'm not gonna set a drop dead date but I'd say a third to a halfway through next season mark.

That kind of time frame strikes me as symptomatic of giving up this season for lost, more than any kind of real thought on athletic recovery.

[Donoghus]

I said in another thread last week that I don't expect him to be 100% at all this season and that my grace period is sometime during the 2014-2015 season.

I'm not gonna set a drop dead date but I'd say a third to a halfway through next season mark.

That kind of time frame strikes me as symptomatic of giving up this season for lost, more than any kind of real thought on athletic recovery.

Why's that?  He experienced an ACL injury just about a year ago.  He plays basketball which is a game that takes a ridiculous toll on your lower body, especially from the PG position and just the nature of how he plays the game.

He just started playing meaningful game-speed NBA basketball in the past couple of weeks.  Given what I've seen from athletes over the years in basketball as well as other sports, I don't think 52 weeks is enough time for a full recovery.  Physically and certainly not mentally.  Even when the physical aspect is complete (which it may never be) there are still mental hurdles that take much longer to overcome.  Especially from an ACL injury and you play a sport like basketball which involves cutting and jumping all the time.  I really think 18-24 months is a better timeframe. 18 months would have him back to normal by the start of next season while 24 months would have him near the middle of next season.  Pretty much on point where I said a third to halfway into next season.

So, despite what you think, my thought and time frame is actually is very focused on athletic recovery.

[snively]

TA's whole first year back from ACL (he returned a lot earlier than Rondo too)he wasn't the same.  Played in that big leg brace and didn't show anywhere near the same explosiveness and lateral quickness he'd had pre-injury.

[Who]

Rondo might not be healthy enough to evaluate properly until next season.

[LooseCannon]

I say he should be given until the day after the trade deadline in the 2014-2015 season.

[BballTim]

I said in another thread last week that I don't expect him to be 100% at all this season and that my grace period is sometime during the 2014-2015 season.

I'm not gonna set a drop dead date but I'd say a third to a halfway through next season mark.

That kind of time frame strikes me as symptomatic of giving up this season for lost, more than any kind of real thought on athletic recovery.

  Not being back to snuff until the season after you come back is pretty much the norm, even for players that come back at the beginning of the season and not in the middle.