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Re: 8.8% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2014, 11:21:10 AM »

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Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's not a sure thing all these kids come out, especially Embiid and Parker.

articles suggesting that top college players won't enter the draft come out every season, yet those players still enter the draft. The financial windfall of being selected top 10 in the draft vs the risk of being injured next season or having a poor followup season and dropping in the next draft is too much to pass up. Most people are not at all worried about it, the chance that either of them stay is about 5% imo.
Exactly. Just look at Marcus Smart this year.

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2014, 12:50:20 PM »

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Everything I read about Exum like this here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10363177/dante-exum-declares-2014-nba-draft

Reads like the kid is a PG, just like Smart. I don't know that I see the wisdom is drafting another PG-minded individual that wants to distribute next to Rondo...unless we're planning to move Rondo. I gotta think if Ainge falls out the top 3 he's trading down or moving the pick altogether. Drafting Exum or Smart is a waste of a pick.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2014, 12:56:01 PM »

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Everything I read about Exum like this here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10363177/dante-exum-declares-2014-nba-draft

Reads like the kid is a PG, just like Smart. I don't know that I see the wisdom is drafting another PG-minded individual that wants to distribute next to Rondo...unless we're planning to move Rondo. I gotta think if Ainge falls out the top 3 he's trading down or moving the pick altogether. Drafting Exum or Smart is a waste of a pick.
Both are scoring PGs, I think they could both play next to Rondo similar to how Phoenix ran a two point guard lineup with Bledsoe and Dragic.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2014, 01:18:17 PM »

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Everything I read about Exum like this here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10363177/dante-exum-declares-2014-nba-draft

Reads like the kid is a PG, just like Smart. I don't know that I see the wisdom is drafting another PG-minded individual that wants to distribute next to Rondo...unless we're planning to move Rondo. I gotta think if Ainge falls out the top 3 he's trading down or moving the pick altogether. Drafting Exum or Smart is a waste of a pick.
Both are scoring PGs, I think they could both play next to Rondo similar to how Phoenix ran a two point guard lineup with Bledsoe and Dragic.

Yeah they COULD. But I bet if you ask Phoenix that would not be their first choice. It's working out alright since both are kinda combo guards to begin with and they're the best options but Rondo is not a combo guard. I would prefer someone with more scoring potential next to Rondo. Preferably a reliable shooter.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2014, 01:26:44 PM »

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Exum and smart would be underwhelming

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #110 on: January 28, 2014, 01:39:33 PM »

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Everything I read about Exum like this here:

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/10363177/dante-exum-declares-2014-nba-draft

Reads like the kid is a PG, just like Smart. I don't know that I see the wisdom is drafting another PG-minded individual that wants to distribute next to Rondo...unless we're planning to move Rondo. I gotta think if Ainge falls out the top 3 he's trading down or moving the pick altogether. Drafting Exum or Smart is a waste of a pick.

Here is what the article ends with:

Exum can play both guard positions and has the ideal blend of athleticism and skill. However, scouts believe that ultimately he'll be an NBA point guard with elite size (6-foot-6, 188 pounds) as he is very quick with the ball and gets to the rim almost effortlessly.

His jump shot is still a work in progress -- the primary weakness in his game. If he were playing college ball in the U.S., many NBA scouts believe he would be a serious contender for the No. 1 overall pick.


I mean if we were starting Rondo and rookie Derrick Rose or Rondo and rookie Russel Westbrook, do you think we'd be all that concerned?  It wouldn't be the supreme ideal of a team, but it would work just fine and we'd have crazy ball movement on a Brad Stevens team, not to mention elite defenders at both guard spots.

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2014, 01:42:25 PM »

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I don't know about you guys, but if we end up with Exum or Smart, I'd be looking to trade Rondo on draft night for another lottery pick.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #112 on: January 28, 2014, 01:48:37 PM »

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I don't know about you guys, but if we end up with Exum or Smart, I'd be looking to trade Rondo on draft night for another lottery pick.
Yeah I think that Rondo having the ball so much would stifle their development. Plus Rondo being a FA after next means that he's not locked in long term either.

If we end up with either of those I imagine we'll be looking to trade Rondo quickly thereafter.

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #113 on: January 28, 2014, 01:48:44 PM »

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I don't know about you guys, but if we end up with Exum or Smart, I'd be looking to trade Rondo on draft night for another lottery pick.

You pick the best player available and you only trade Rondo if the deal is right.  There is no reason to panic trade our best player because the new guy slightly prefers to play his position when he can play another one, too.  We're not getting a top 3 for him, so what is the point anyways?  So we can draft Aaron Gordon? 

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #114 on: January 28, 2014, 02:17:22 PM »

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I don't know about you guys, but if we end up with Exum or Smart, I'd be looking to trade Rondo on draft night for another lottery pick.

You pick the best player available and you only trade Rondo if the deal is right.  There is no reason to panic trade our best player because the new guy slightly prefers to play his position when he can play another one, too.  We're not getting a top 3 for him, so what is the point anyways?  So we can draft Aaron Gordon?

I'm just saying, might as well go for an all out rebuild. Rondo is pushing 30, I think it will be better for the Celtics long term to pick one of Exum or Smart and trade Rondo. I think we will be able to get at least a pick in the 8-12 range for him. A core of Exum/Smart and Vonleh/Cauley-Stein would be nice.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2014, 02:35:50 PM »

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just a question concerning the 11.9 percent in the thread title. i understand the 11.9 percent refers to the celtics getting the number 1 pick. right?

but does anyone know the collective/summed percentage of the celtics moving up into the TOP THREE picks?

thanks.
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Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2014, 02:48:27 PM »

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I don't know about you guys, but if we end up with Exum or Smart, I'd be looking to trade Rondo on draft night for another lottery pick.

You pick the best player available and you only trade Rondo if the deal is right.  There is no reason to panic trade our best player because the new guy slightly prefers to play his position when he can play another one, too.  We're not getting a top 3 for him, so what is the point anyways?  So we can draft Aaron Gordon?

I'm just saying, might as well go for an all out rebuild. Rondo is pushing 30, I think it will be better for the Celtics long term to pick one of Exum or Smart and trade Rondo. I think we will be able to get at least a pick in the 8-12 range for him. A core of Exum/Smart and Vonleh/Cauley-Stein would be nice.

Rondo is already a star and proven leader. Him and a lottery pick should be the future of the Celtics. Trading Rondo would slow down our rebuild not speed it up

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2014, 03:41:41 PM »

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just a question concerning the 11.9 percent in the thread title. i understand the 11.9 percent refers to the celtics getting the number 1 pick. right?

but does anyone know the collective/summed percentage of the celtics moving up into the TOP THREE picks?

thanks.

Yeah, Jeff has a good article today that totals those percentages up for us:

http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/1/27/5352442/what-are-the-odds-of-the-celtics-winning-the-nba-draft-lottery

Re: 11.9% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2014, 05:19:20 PM »

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just a question concerning the 11.9 percent in the thread title. i understand the 11.9 percent refers to the celtics getting the number 1 pick. right?

but does anyone know the collective/summed percentage of the celtics moving up into the TOP THREE picks?

thanks.

Yeah, Jeff has a good article today that totals those percentages up for us:

http://www.celticsblog.com/2014/1/27/5352442/what-are-the-odds-of-the-celtics-winning-the-nba-draft-lottery

yep. foolish me. i just saw this article a few minutes ago. ha, ha..this is the problem with me directly entering cb through the forums page, not the front page.

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Re: 15.6% chance of winning the draft lottery as of today
« Reply #119 on: January 29, 2014, 10:23:25 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2014/mockdraft

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