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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2014, 12:05:08 PM »

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like it or not jeff green is an efficient player
he gets more shots he scores more points
sure he has bad shooting nights but pierce always did as well

i think its tough when the guard duo of crawford and bradley were taking so many shots, throw in bass and that is a lot of non ball movement for green to be on floor

for those that say he sits in corner, same thing with a lot of guys, ball on strong side against miami guess where lebron is when on weak side, corner standing
floor spacing....

main things to me are he plays within the team game, good defense and his rebounding improvement
pp would have an off game he'd rebound or get assists etc
have to do the other things when shots don't fall (which happens to everyone, even durant?)

now if stevens has said right along i want you shooting more, being assertive on offense and green isn't doing it then that is a PROBLEM
none of us know if this has been said but soooo many harp on green

Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2014, 12:08:36 PM »

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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2014, 12:20:53 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2014, 12:24:59 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..


If green is one of your top 3 offensive options on a championship team your in trouble.

Think about the 08 celtics top 3 options, green isn't as good or consistent as any of those three.  If you want green as a sixth man that's fine, but his salary is terrible for that kind if role.
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2014, 12:28:59 PM »

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Next game .
He becomes invisible Jeff ..WHO?
6 point
2 rebounds
0 assists
1 steal

Seems to have a good game , then takes the night off for two or three.........funniest player I ever seen in 25 years.

Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2014, 12:32:08 PM »

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The tone some of you guys take... embarrassing.

He had a good game, be happy for a second.  Jeff is a player who can get hot.  That's just how it is.  He isn't a reliable big time scorer.

And he is a player who plays within the team, is effecient, defends really well now.  He just is never going to reliably score up to 20 points.

Like Monk mentions above, players to hope he is like are Batum and Deng.  The issue for the comparison is that Batum's passing has really improved, but still, they compare and make similar money, though Batum makes 2 million per year more.  And Deng is a more reliable scorer (without the highs though, and Jeff is a better shooter) and Deng makes about 5 million more per year.

Now I understand needing to shed him rebuilding because you need the space under the cap.  But if you can make it work, he's a very good complimentary player.   He just can't really be relied upon to be more than that scoring wise.  Just like say, Deng, who hasn't been as good of a scorer as it seemed he was going to be.  But Jeff makes a lot less, and is a great three point shooter and spaces the floor.

I still think Houston is crazy for not making more of a push for him (though maybe they have).  He'd be really great on a team like Memphis or Houston.

Basically, I'm not sure, a lot of times, anyone compares players around the league and ones they are being super critical of... if Deng is making what he is making and people don't hate on him but Jeff makes a good amount less and takes all this flak, we just aren't paying attention to value on the market.
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2014, 12:38:01 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..


If green is one of your top 3 offensive options on a championship team your in trouble.

Think about the 08 celtics top 3 options, green isn't as good or consistent as any of those three.  If you want green as a sixth man that's fine, but his salary is terrible for that kind if role.
He's just as good/consistent as the 2008 version of Ray Allen was. Allen averaged 17 points in 35 minutes that year.
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2014, 12:44:58 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..


If green is one of your top 3 offensive options on a championship team your in trouble.

Think about the 08 celtics top 3 options, green isn't as good or consistent as any of those three.  If you want green as a sixth man that's fine, but his salary is terrible for that kind if role.
He's just as good/consistent as the 2008 version of Ray Allen was. Allen averaged 17 points in 35 minutes that year.
17 points as a third option, not option #1.  The year before in Seattle he scored 26 points a game on a team with Lewis who was also scoring over 22 a night. 
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2014, 12:57:47 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..


If green is one of your top 3 offensive options on a championship team your in trouble.

Think about the 08 celtics top 3 options, green isn't as good or consistent as any of those three.  If you want green as a sixth man that's fine, but his salary is terrible for that kind if role.
He's just as good/consistent as the 2008 version of Ray Allen was. Allen averaged 17 points in 35 minutes that year.
Sounds like you didn't look at Ray Allen's 2006-2007 stats before typing that. Allen was way better.

That being said, people are exaggerating the significance of the 'third option'. Green would be fine so long as the 2 before him are good enough.

Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2014, 01:12:00 PM »

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I would actually love to keep Green. I seriously don't believe we'll get a top 5 pick... We'll probably end up with top 7-10. Which is still a lottery pick, and we'll probably send that and a few players to pick up either Kevin Love, or possibly a great Center, or draft one. The main issue isn't Greens ability to score, its just his confidence. This guy takes over games, but doesn't do it all the time. I don't care if he shoots nothing but threes... As long as he can make it... I just don't want him relying too much on shooting 3's, but if he can make it at 50%, then why not?

I would love to keep Green. A player that can defend, and if he can improve his rebounding to at least 6-7 boards per game, and shoot the 3 ball/get to the line 5-6 times. As long as he can score 16-20 PPG, I'm okay with that.

That is a 3rd/4th option which the Blazers have in Batum, and would be a good key piece moving forward. Green has no future, but you're deluded if you seriously believe Danny Ainge would trade Green for Asik basically straight up... I'd want way more than that, and even Ainge knows this..


If green is one of your top 3 offensive options on a championship team your in trouble.

Think about the 08 celtics top 3 options, green isn't as good or consistent as any of those three.  If you want green as a sixth man that's fine, but his salary is terrible for that kind if role.
He's just as good/consistent as the 2008 version of Ray Allen was. Allen averaged 17 points in 35 minutes that year.
Sounds like you didn't look at Ray Allen's 2006-2007 stats before typing that. Allen was way better.

That being said, people are exaggerating the significance of the 'third option'. Green would be fine so long as the 2 before him are good enough.

Portland scores 109 PPG, their third leading scorer is Wesley Matthews at 16.7.  4th is Batum at 13.0.

Aldridge scores 24 PPG and Lillard scores 21 PPG.

To just prove your point.
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2014, 01:25:53 PM »

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Green would be a very good long term piece at SF at a price around the mid level or a maximum of $6 to $8 million per year.

As someone else pointed out, if you have 1-2 alpha dog scorers in front of him, you'd be all set.

Who are those players? How do we get them? That's the question. 

Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2014, 01:33:43 PM »

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Gordon Hayward is still better.  He was just named to USA pool of 28 players.

Green was named to the cesspool.   ;D



Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2014, 02:51:06 PM »

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The issue with Green is...he plays a team game (the Georgetown background doesn't hurt for that), so he's not one to force the issue too much. He doesn't force bad shots. He moves the ball. The problem is, he simply doesn't get the touches he should. Look at last night. When Green is the focus of the offense, he can lead us to a win (massively undermanned) against a Wizards team (that is much better than us) on the road on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Green should be the focus of the offense. Bradley takes away way too many of Green's shots, though I think having Rondo back will get Avery back to his best offense = cutting to the basket. But yeah, Green SHOULD get 15-20 shot attempts per game.

Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2014, 03:12:55 PM »

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The issue with Green is...he plays a team game (the Georgetown background doesn't hurt for that), so he's not one to force the issue too much. He doesn't force bad shots. He moves the ball. The problem is, he simply doesn't get the touches he should. Look at last night. When Green is the focus of the offense, he can lead us to a win (massively undermanned) against a Wizards team (that is much better than us) on the road on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. Green should be the focus of the offense. Bradley takes away way too many of Green's shots, though I think having Rondo back will get Avery back to his best offense = cutting to the basket. But yeah, Green SHOULD get 15-20 shot attempts per game.

It's really hard to get 15-20 FGAs per game without forcing bad shots.  If you want him to take more shots, you should probably design more plays to give him open threes.
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Re: Jeff Green - 39 points, 9 rebounds, made 8 Threes
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2014, 03:30:41 PM »

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I find it interesting that you chose to capitalize the word "Threes".

Nice use of punctuation. I'm a big fan of the serial comma.

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