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Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 02:16:32 PM »

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 Fafnir with that said Parker's slump who would you take first Parker or Wiggins?
Wiggins.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 02:26:21 PM »

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From the Book on Basketball, 2026 edition:

Quote
All the signs were there for the GMs to over think this an screw this up. Everyone had hyped up the freshmen class so much, that when it became evident that there wasn't a 'LeBron' or 'Durant', everyone started relying on tired old tropes so that they wouldn't be the ones holding the bag containing the one bust from the 2014 draft.

The Bucks went first, and predictably they chose the biggest sure thing to be had, OK State guard Marcus Smart. His career was nothing to laugh at, 3 all-star performances and a couple of all-star game MVP's before that second knee injury really took his game down a level until his retirement at 32.

The Magic went next, and happily gobbled up the second most productive player from the class, you know him as Jabari 'The Barber'** Parker. 3 scoring titles, 9 all-star appearances, 6 All-NBA appearances and 2 "oh my god if he just could've had a better teammate" years where you knew he could've been champion.

After that were a slew of disappointments. The Jazz took Joel Embiid who never really made the jump from 'college phenom' to 'NBA rotation player'. Maybe the fact that he'd only played 4 years of organized basketball previously should've been a warning sign.

Julius Randle turned out to be a good, but not great NBA player, only making one All-Star appearance and never stringing together more than 2 good years in a row.

Next up the Celtics, unbelieving in their luck, took Andrew Wiggins. Before the season, it would've been a pipedream to think he could've fallen so far, but as scouts and media pundits began to panic that the college freshman actually looked like a college freshman, teams just talked themselves out of taking them.

Danny Ainge, in an interview from Mars to 'Pick and Pop Diaries' was quoted saying, "Andrew was a godsend. It seemed like teams were just dying to rationalize not taking him, and we were more than happy to let them. We knew from day one when he stepped onto the practice court after the draft that he was going to be special."

Wiggins of course would go one to be a perennial All-Star and winner of the first MVIP award (Most Valuable Intergalactic Player). His five championships in 6 years (8 total) was among the best runs this league has ever seen, which resulted in "Wiggy" being the most popular baby name in the Core Systems for 6 years running.

**'The Barber' has to be one of my favorite NBA nicknames out there. Rumor has it that Jabari was at the MoonBar one night with Ricky Davis, Delonte West, and Larry Johnson, when they all realized that Parker only had 15 minutes left to make his shuttle back to Earth. Parker lept up and sprinted the whole 4 miles of the MoonWalk, barely making it on time. Cutting it so close that he must be, "a Barber'.
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Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 02:32:15 PM »

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If Andrew Wiggins becomes more aggresive, i  say his NBA comparison is Vince Carter

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2014, 02:34:17 PM »

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 Fafnir with that said Parker's slump who would you take first Parker or Wiggins?
Wiggins.

Same. I feel like Wiggins will be far more successful in the NBA than he is in college.
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Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2014, 02:39:41 PM »

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From the Book on Basketball, 2026 edition:

Quote
All the signs were there for the GMs to over think this an screw this up. Everyone had hyped up the freshmen class so much, that when it became evident that there wasn't a 'LeBron' or 'Durant', everyone started relying on tired old tropes so that they wouldn't be the ones holding the bag containing the one bust from the 2014 draft.

The Bucks went first, and predictably they chose the biggest sure thing to be had, OK State guard Marcus Smart. His career was nothing to laugh at, 3 all-star performances and a couple of all-star game MVP's before that second knee injury really took his game down a level until his retirement at 32.

The Magic went next, and happily gobbled up the second most productive player from the class, you know him as Jabari 'The Barber'** Parker. 3 scoring titles, 9 all-star appearances, 6 All-NBA appearances and 2 "oh my god if he just could've had a better teammate" years where you knew he could've been champion.

After that were a slew of disappointments. The Jazz took Joel Embiid who never really made the jump from 'college phenom' to 'NBA rotation player'. Maybe the fact that he'd only played 4 years of organized basketball previously should've been a warning sign.

Julius Randle turned out to be a good, but not great NBA player, only making one All-Star appearance and never stringing together more than 2 good years in a row.

Next up the Celtics, unbelieving in their luck, took Andrew Wiggins. Before the season, it would've been a pipedream to think he could've fallen so far, but as scouts and media pundits began to panic that the college freshman actually looked like a college freshman, teams just talked themselves out of taking them.

Danny Ainge, in an interview from Mars to 'Pick and Pop Diaries' was quoted saying, "Andrew was a godsend. It seemed like teams were just dying to rationalize not taking him, and we were more than happy to let them. We knew from day one when he stepped onto the practice court after the draft that he was going to be special."

Wiggins of course would go one to be a perennial All-Star and winner of the first MVIP award (Most Valuable Intergalactic Player). His five championships in 6 years (8 total) was among the best runs this league has ever seen, which resulted in "Wiggy" being the most popular baby name in the Core Systems for 6 years running.

**'The Barber' has to be one of my favorite NBA nicknames out there. Rumor has it that Jabari was at the MoonBar one night with Ricky Davis, Delonte West, and Larry Johnson, when they all realized that Parker only had 15 minutes left to make his shuttle back to Earth. Parker lept up and sprinted the whole 4 miles of the MoonWalk, barely making it on time. Cutting it so close that he must be, "a Barber'.
Did you just write this?  Because it's amaze-a-balls.

Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2014, 02:41:21 PM »

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From the Book on Basketball, 2026 edition:

Quote
All the signs were there for the GMs to over think this an screw this up. Everyone had hyped up the freshmen class so much, that when it became evident that there wasn't a 'LeBron' or 'Durant', everyone started relying on tired old tropes so that they wouldn't be the ones holding the bag containing the one bust from the 2014 draft.

The Bucks went first, and predictably they chose the biggest sure thing to be had, OK State guard Marcus Smart. His career was nothing to laugh at, 3 all-star performances and a couple of all-star game MVP's before that second knee injury really took his game down a level until his retirement at 32.

The Magic went next, and happily gobbled up the second most productive player from the class, you know him as Jabari 'The Barber'** Parker. 3 scoring titles, 9 all-star appearances, 6 All-NBA appearances and 2 "oh my god if he just could've had a better teammate" years where you knew he could've been champion.

After that were a slew of disappointments. The Jazz took Joel Embiid who never really made the jump from 'college phenom' to 'NBA rotation player'. Maybe the fact that he'd only played 4 years of organized basketball previously should've been a warning sign.

Julius Randle turned out to be a good, but not great NBA player, only making one All-Star appearance and never stringing together more than 2 good years in a row.

Next up the Celtics, unbelieving in their luck, took Andrew Wiggins. Before the season, it would've been a pipedream to think he could've fallen so far, but as scouts and media pundits began to panic that the college freshman actually looked like a college freshman, teams just talked themselves out of taking them.

Danny Ainge, in an interview from Mars to 'Pick and Pop Diaries' was quoted saying, "Andrew was a godsend. It seemed like teams were just dying to rationalize not taking him, and we were more than happy to let them. We knew from day one when he stepped onto the practice court after the draft that he was going to be special."

Wiggins of course would go one to be a perennial All-Star and winner of the first MVIP award (Most Valuable Intergalactic Player). His five championships in 6 years (8 total) was among the best runs this league has ever seen, which resulted in "Wiggy" being the most popular baby name in the Core Systems for 6 years running.

**'The Barber' has to be one of my favorite NBA nicknames out there. Rumor has it that Jabari was at the MoonBar one night with Ricky Davis, Delonte West, and Larry Johnson, when they all realized that Parker only had 15 minutes left to make his shuttle back to Earth. Parker lept up and sprinted the whole 4 miles of the MoonWalk, barely making it on time. Cutting it so close that he must be, "a Barber'.
Did you just write this?  Because it's amaze-a-balls.

Yeah you can tell from the typos. I had a few minutes.

"You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy
like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2014, 02:45:13 PM »

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From the Book on Basketball, 2026 edition:

Quote
All the signs were there for the GMs to over think this an screw this up. Everyone had hyped up the freshmen class so much, that when it became evident that there wasn't a 'LeBron' or 'Durant', everyone started relying on tired old tropes so that they wouldn't be the ones holding the bag containing the one bust from the 2014 draft.

The Bucks went first, and predictably they chose the biggest sure thing to be had, OK State guard Marcus Smart. His career was nothing to laugh at, 3 all-star performances and a couple of all-star game MVP's before that second knee injury really took his game down a level until his retirement at 32.

The Magic went next, and happily gobbled up the second most productive player from the class, you know him as Jabari 'The Barber'** Parker. 3 scoring titles, 9 all-star appearances, 6 All-NBA appearances and 2 "oh my god if he just could've had a better teammate" years where you knew he could've been champion.

After that were a slew of disappointments. The Jazz took Joel Embiid who never really made the jump from 'college phenom' to 'NBA rotation player'. Maybe the fact that he'd only played 4 years of organized basketball previously should've been a warning sign.

Julius Randle turned out to be a good, but not great NBA player, only making one All-Star appearance and never stringing together more than 2 good years in a row.

Next up the Celtics, unbelieving in their luck, took Andrew Wiggins. Before the season, it would've been a pipedream to think he could've fallen so far, but as scouts and media pundits began to panic that the college freshman actually looked like a college freshman, teams just talked themselves out of taking them.

Danny Ainge, in an interview from Mars to 'Pick and Pop Diaries' was quoted saying, "Andrew was a godsend. It seemed like teams were just dying to rationalize not taking him, and we were more than happy to let them. We knew from day one when he stepped onto the practice court after the draft that he was going to be special."

Wiggins of course would go one to be a perennial All-Star and winner of the first MVIP award (Most Valuable Intergalactic Player). His five championships in 6 years (8 total) was among the best runs this league has ever seen, which resulted in "Wiggy" being the most popular baby name in the Core Systems for 6 years running.

**'The Barber' has to be one of my favorite NBA nicknames out there. Rumor has it that Jabari was at the MoonBar one night with Ricky Davis, Delonte West, and Larry Johnson, when they all realized that Parker only had 15 minutes left to make his shuttle back to Earth. Parker lept up and sprinted the whole 4 miles of the MoonWalk, barely making it on time. Cutting it so close that he must be, "a Barber'.

TP. Post of the year.

Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2014, 02:52:09 PM »

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From the Book on Basketball, 2026 edition:

Quote
All the signs were there for the GMs to over think this an screw this up. Everyone had hyped up the freshmen class so much, that when it became evident that there wasn't a 'LeBron' or 'Durant', everyone started relying on tired old tropes so that they wouldn't be the ones holding the bag containing the one bust from the 2014 draft.

The Bucks went first, and predictably they chose the biggest sure thing to be had, OK State guard Marcus Smart. His career was nothing to laugh at, 3 all-star performances and a couple of all-star game MVP's before that second knee injury really took his game down a level until his retirement at 32.

The Magic went next, and happily gobbled up the second most productive player from the class, you know him as Jabari 'The Barber'** Parker. 3 scoring titles, 9 all-star appearances, 6 All-NBA appearances and 2 "oh my god if he just could've had a better teammate" years where you knew he could've been champion.

After that were a slew of disappointments. The Jazz took Joel Embiid who never really made the jump from 'college phenom' to 'NBA rotation player'. Maybe the fact that he'd only played 4 years of organized basketball previously should've been a warning sign.

Julius Randle turned out to be a good, but not great NBA player, only making one All-Star appearance and never stringing together more than 2 good years in a row.

Next up the Celtics, unbelieving in their luck, took Andrew Wiggins. Before the season, it would've been a pipedream to think he could've fallen so far, but as scouts and media pundits began to panic that the college freshman actually looked like a college freshman, teams just talked themselves out of taking them.

Danny Ainge, in an interview from Mars to 'Pick and Pop Diaries' was quoted saying, "Andrew was a godsend. It seemed like teams were just dying to rationalize not taking him, and we were more than happy to let them. We knew from day one when he stepped onto the practice court after the draft that he was going to be special."

Wiggins of course would go one to be a perennial All-Star and winner of the first MVIP award (Most Valuable Intergalactic Player). His five championships in 6 years (8 total) was among the best runs this league has ever seen, which resulted in "Wiggy" being the most popular baby name in the Core Systems for 6 years running.

**'The Barber' has to be one of my favorite NBA nicknames out there. Rumor has it that Jabari was at the MoonBar one night with Ricky Davis, Delonte West, and Larry Johnson, when they all realized that Parker only had 15 minutes left to make his shuttle back to Earth. Parker lept up and sprinted the whole 4 miles of the MoonWalk, barely making it on time. Cutting it so close that he must be, "a Barber'.
Did you just write this?  Because it's amaze-a-balls.

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Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2014, 02:53:43 PM »

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I know a lot of people are down on him, but the kid had a 20 rebound game a few games ago. He has a lot of natural talent , and we saw his competitiveness come out against Parker , and his ability to make clutch plays on both sides of the ball.

Yes he has been inconsistent , but he is still only 20 games into his collegiate career ,and he has a lot of talented scorers around him on that Kansas team that he has to share the ball with .

He would greatly benefit from playing with a PG like Rondo.

His motor does concern me a bit, but we will see how he reacts in big spots in the tournament ..

My top 10 as of right now

1)Embid
2)Parker
3)Wiggins
4)Randle
5)Exum
6)Smart
7)Vonleh
8)Hood
9)Gordon
10)Cauley-Stein
Great list I might move Hood or Vonleh out for LaVine.
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Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2014, 02:56:53 PM »

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I also agree with the sentiment of Indeed's post. Admittedly I'm not a college bball fan, but from what I understand Wiggins is playing terrific for a College freshman.  I continue to operate under the theory that there are a bunch of NBA fans suddenly following College ball and expecting to see NBA statistics.   Wiggins' averages are solid.  Michael Jordan averaged 13 points 4 rebounds and 1 steal as a College freshman. 

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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2014, 02:58:20 PM »

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Well done, IP.  What a creative and entertaining piece of speculative fiction.

Back to reality, though, I am having serious doubts that Andrew Wiggins will be the player that many had him hyped to be when he was still a high school senior. 
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2014, 03:05:27 PM »

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Well done, IP.  What a creative and entertaining piece of speculative fiction.

Back to reality, though, I am having serious doubts that Andrew Wiggins will be the player that many had him hyped to be when he was still a high school senior.
Back to reality, though... nothing he is doing is unexpected.  This was from October:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1822499-why-andrew-wiggins-wont-have-best-season-of-any-2014-nba-draft-prospect

Don't let the fact that a couple freshman are wildly exceeding expectations cloud your judgement of Wiggins.  He's still on pace to be a star.

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2014, 03:07:22 PM »

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I'm of the firm belief that Wiggins will be a better NBA player than college player. The spacing is better in the NBA, and when you combine space with elite athleticism you are going to have a dynamic player on your hands. Not to mention the fact that he appears to be good on the boards, and once he comes down with the rebound he will be able to start the break by himself. I think teams will regret passing over Wiggins similar to how teams talked themselves out of taking Aaron Rodgers in the NFL draft. 

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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2014, 03:08:39 PM »

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I'm of the firm belief that Wiggins will be a better NBA player than college player. The spacing is better in the NBA, and when you combine space with elite athleticism you are going to have a dynamic player on your hands. Not to mention the fact that he appears to be good on the boards, and once he comes down with the rebound he will be able to start the break by himself. I think teams will regret passing over Wiggins similar to how teams talked themselves out of taking Aaron Rodgers in the NFL draft.
And if you read the above article I linked to, they essentially predicted all of this.  He actually might be exceeding expectations right now. 

October predictions:  14.3 points, 6.4 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 45%/31%

Reality:  15.2 points, 6.1 rebounds, 1.4 assists, 1 block, 1 steal 44%/33%/76% - 31 minutes

Pretty much as expected.

Re: Wiggins NBA comparison Shawn Marion.
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2014, 03:20:17 PM »

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Well done, IP.  What a creative and entertaining piece of speculative fiction.

Back to reality, though, I am having serious doubts that Andrew Wiggins will be the player that many had him hyped to be when he was still a high school senior.
Back to reality, though... nothing he is doing is unexpected.  This was from October:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1822499-why-andrew-wiggins-wont-have-best-season-of-any-2014-nba-draft-prospect

Don't let the fact that a couple freshman are wildly exceeding expectations cloud your judgement of Wiggins.  He's still on pace to be a star.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1899019-is-andrew-wiggins-2014-nba-draft-stock-starting-to-slip

Here's an article by the same guy, written about a month ago. 
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson