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Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2014, 07:58:47 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2014, 08:49:07 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

lol.  I know, right.  The logic around here

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Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2014, 09:07:36 PM »

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If the C's had a core of Melo, Rondo, Bradley, and Sully, we still wouldn't have a legit shot at being contenders.  That team is getting clobbered in the 2nd round by Indy or Miami 9 out of 10 times they meet.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2014, 09:10:02 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

In the original post we'd be trading Sullinger and yes we'd be like the T-wolves. Melo is a volume shooter, doesn't play D, and is not a winner. We'd actually probably still be worse than the T-wolves with just melo bradley, and rondo.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2014, 09:11:44 PM »

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Rondo needs a guy like Melo in order to be successful.  Without a reliable scorer on this team, we're not winning anything.  If you have a bunch of mediocre/streaky shooters on the floor like the Jordan Crawford era, you can luck into some wins once in a while when everyone starts sharing the ball and hitting nonsense.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2014, 09:13:09 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

In the original post we'd be trading Sullinger and yes we'd be like the T-wolves. Melo is a volume shooter, doesn't play D, and is not a winner. We'd actually probably still be worse than the T-wolves with just melo bradley, and rondo.
#1 - He's not a volume shooter.

#2 - He's never missed the playoffs.


Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2014, 09:17:44 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

In the original post we'd be trading Sullinger and yes we'd be like the T-wolves. Melo is a volume shooter, doesn't play D, and is not a winner. We'd actually probably still be worse than the T-wolves with just melo bradley, and rondo.
#1 - He's not a volume shooter.

#2 - He's never missed the playoffs.

Have the Knicks or Nuggets ever been mentioned as serious contenders to win the title? Hes a good scorer who can't play D. We would never win the title with him and Rondo whose also hoping to cash in for near a max deal soon.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2014, 09:49:59 PM »

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I think the proposed trade may be a bit generous on the Knicks side, but I would certainly be interested in acquiring Carmelo if the situation presented itself. If we are giving up both Green and Sullinger (as well as one first - tops), I would definitely demand that we also take back Chandler. He is really what would make or break this deal.

All those calling for Marc Gasol over Carmelo, I understand where you are coming from, but I would much much much rather have Carmelo and M. Gasol's clone [in Chandler] than just M. Gasol.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2014, 09:58:49 PM »

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Marc Gasol:  14.8 PPG, 6.5 REB, 3.7 ASST, 45.3 FG%

Carmelo Anthony: 26.1 PPG, 9.0 REB, 3.0 ASST, 43.8 FG%

Those are facts...

People blows my mind...

It's one thing not to like the guy but give credit where it's due.

I'll pick Melo every single time

So would you take Antoine Walker on your team over Marc Gasol, and value him as much as Carmelo Anthony?

Antoine in his prime averaged over 20 points, around 9 boards, and around 3 assists, shooting at around 43%. 

So since stats seem to be the be all end all with you, you agree that Antoine Walker is as elite of a player as Carmelo Anthony right???  The stats dont lie right?  theyre the facts?

They dont always tell the whole story of how good of a basketball player they are.  They dont show how well other players play around them.  How smart they are with the shots they decide to take when it matters most.

KG hardly had great stats the last run we made in the playoffs to the EC finals in 2011, would you have taken Antoine over him that year?
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Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2014, 10:06:22 PM »

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#2 - He's never missed the playoffs.

#3 He doesn't win titles.

#4 He is selfish.

#5 He does not have Celtic Heart, people said the same things about KG but KG has heart.   Melo does not.

I am sure the Knicks want to unload him and they have drank the Kool-Aid and threw it back up.   

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2014, 10:09:15 PM »

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I might consider this

Anthony & Chandler

for

Humphries, Green, Bass, Bogans, 2014 Boston 1st, 2014 Brooklyn 1st, 2015 LA 1st
2025 Historical Draft - Cleveland Cavaliers - 1st pick

Starters - Luka, JB, Lebron, Wemby, Shaq
Rotation - D. Daniels, Mitchell, G. Wallace, Melo, Noah
Deep Bench - Korver, Turner

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2014, 10:10:27 PM »

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I might consider this

Anthony & Chandler

for

Humphries, Green, Bass, Bogans, 2014 Boston 1st, 2014 Brooklyn 1st, 2015 LA 1st

How about they keep Melo and give them Humphries and the Philly pick for Chandler.
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Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2014, 10:12:20 PM »

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as always lets hear the price Then i'll make a decision afterwards just like every other player in the nba What do the Knicks Want and are we willing. if they want the kitchen sink the answer is no if the knicks just want him gone and we get get him for pennies on the dollar lets get him.  If its somewhere in between lets see what that in between is

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2014, 10:24:45 PM »

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With Melo we will just become the Timberwolves or Grizzlies. A fringe team with zero chance.

Do. Not. Want.

So Rondo + Melo + Bradley + Sullinger + all those assets = T-Wolves?

Makes sense

In the original post we'd be trading Sullinger and yes we'd be like the T-wolves. Melo is a volume shooter, doesn't play D, and is not a winner. We'd actually probably still be worse than the T-wolves with just melo bradley, and rondo.
#1 - He's not a volume shooter.

#2 - He's never missed the playoffs.

Have the Knicks or Nuggets ever been mentioned as serious contenders to win the title? Hes a good scorer who can't play D. We would never win the title with him and Rondo whose also hoping to cash in for near a max deal soon.
He's basically Paul Pierce before Pierce jumped on KG's back.

Fact.

Pierce was a bigger "volume shooter"/"loser" than Melo is right now at the same point in their careers.  Melo is a more efficient scorer and has had more consistent success.  But asking Melo to carry a team to a title alone is like asking Paul Pierce to carry a team to a title alone.  It's an unreasonable request.  That doesn't make Piece/Melo garbage... they are still guys who can be a key part of a championship team.  You'd need to make additional moves.  Rondo + Melo would be a start... still not enough, though.

Re: Time for Ainge to make a deal for Melo
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2014, 10:41:26 PM »

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Yes, they were kind of the same.  Well, except for Pierce being a better shooter, a better passer, and a better defender.
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