Unappealing (hence undervalued) Trade Targets Discussion

[Celtics18]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

 

[PhoSita]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

 

Mozgov is a fine player, although I don't think there's much upside there.  He could give you solid defense and close to 10-10-2 if you played him starter minutes, though.

Kind of a cheaper alternative to trading for Asik, I suppose. 

Personally if there's a chance to acquire somebody who might have a shot at being more than that -- e.g. Biyombo or, riskier, Larry Sanders -- I'd prefer that.

[LooseCannon]

As far as older guys, Danny Granger is a player that comes to mind.  He could give us better value than Green for the next 3-4 years.  He's an expiring contract, and he could probably be re-signed for relatively cheap.  I wonder if the Celtics could interest Indiana in a trade of Green + Bogans for Granger + other assets.

If Granger can probably be re-signed for cheap, then I'm pretty sure Indiana hopes they can bring back Granger for cheap and would only consider moving him if they can get a player who provides good value plus a draft pick or if he becomes injured to the point where they become disinterested in bringing him back for more than the minimum.

[Dog_Lover106]

Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson could be available within a couple of years. 

It seems unlikely to me that the Warriors will be able to afford to keep all of their key guys once Klay and Harrison are finishing their rookie deals.

Although perhaps they'll just find a taker for David Lee or Bogut.


Considering where our team is at right now, I don't think overpaid guys, or guys who are in line to be overpaid -- see Evan Turner and Eric Gordon -- are good targets.  I'm interested in bargains.

Yes, I would only take a Gordon or Turner if they took a combination our long terms overpaid like Bass, Green or Wallace.

[LooseCannon]

I really like Ezeli in Golden State. Not quite as talented as Asik or Gortat was but Ezeli, for my money, is the best backup center in the league and will prove to be a solid starting caliber center (borderline top 20). His defensive range and toughness being the standout skills.

Would you try to trade for him before he comes back from his off-season knee surgery?  (He's not expected to be back until March.)

[Monkhouse]

I would love for us to try acquire Michael Kidd Gilchrist. His ability to defend is uncanny, and he's going to eventually get better. With Ron Adams here, there is definitely going to be some fine tuning on his ability to shoot.

If there is a player I would take a flyer on any day would be Eric Gordon. I'm not a huge fan of him, but his ability to score is unparalleled. Yes he is sometimes inefficient, but does anyone remember when he scored 25 points against the Pacers? He was doing all the right things. Up and over layups, reverse layups, one dribble drive pull up jumpers that even Lance and Paul George seemed to struggle guarding. He also was able to get to the foul lines a few times which our team has desperately been in huge need of.

I would honestly like and think a team like this can contend in 1-2 years from now..

Rondo
Gordon
MKG
Love
Asik/Embiid, or any decent defensive center that can defend and make up for Love's defensive deficiencies.

[LooseCannon]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

Mozgov seems like the sort of player who a team like Denver would be stubborn about trading.  I don't think he is a good trade target because of that.

[PhoSita]

I would love for us to try acquire Michael Kidd Gilchrist. His ability to defend is uncanny, and he's going to eventually get better. With Ron Adams here, there is definitely going to be some fine tuning on his ability to shoot.
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I agree about MKG.  Plenty of people seem to have already written him off, despite the fact that he's very young and he hasn't really been in an ideal situation so far.  He still has plenty of time to turn into a really nice player. 

I doubt he's ever more than a "glue guy" -- somebody who does a lot of little things that help a team win -- but I think he could be a really, really good one.

[PhoSita]

As far as older guys, Danny Granger is a player that comes to mind.  He could give us better value than Green for the next 3-4 years.  He's an expiring contract, and he could probably be re-signed for relatively cheap.  I wonder if the Celtics could interest Indiana in a trade of Green + Bogans for Granger + other assets.

If Granger can probably be re-signed for cheap, then I'm pretty sure Indiana hopes they can bring back Granger for cheap and would only consider moving him if they can get a player who provides good value plus a draft pick or if he becomes injured to the point where they become disinterested in bringing him back for more than the minimum.

When I say he could be re-signed for cheap, I'm talking about a situation where he would be a starter and a major part of the offense.  Granger was once a 25 point scorer and I'm rather skeptical that he's going to accept a backup role for the rest of career. 

[Dog_Lover106]

As far as older guys, Danny Granger is a player that comes to mind.  He could give us better value than Green for the next 3-4 years.  He's an expiring contract, and he could probably be re-signed for relatively cheap.  I wonder if the Celtics could interest Indiana in a trade of Green + Bogans for Granger + other assets.

If Granger can probably be re-signed for cheap, then I'm pretty sure Indiana hopes they can bring back Granger for cheap and would only consider moving him if they can get a player who provides good value plus a draft pick or if he becomes injured to the point where they become disinterested in bringing him back for more than the minimum.

Paul George goes from 3.2 million this year to 15.8 million next year. Stephenson only makes $985,000 this year and will be likely asking for north of $10 million next year.

Pacers and Larry are jammed against luxury tax next year even with Granger's 14 million expiring and could only resign him on the cheap.

LB has already said that they will not be tax payers in 2015. Bet they would love to dump George Hill so as to resign Stephenson. Hill is a good player, but tied up for several years at 8 million per? Yikes. Guess they better win it all this year. 

Granger does not even close to the same player to me though. Maybe just needs some PT. I would take him on a one year deal if we could get of Green.

[Dog_Lover106]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

Mozgov seems like the sort of player who a team like Denver would be stubborn about trading.  I don't think he is a good trade target because of that.

Yes, I think the time to get Mozgov has passed. Seems like he was available on the cheap when they still had Javell McGee in the rotation. I think the price would be high for Mozgov now.

[rondohondo]

Would love to have Korver, playing with Rondo and sully he would get so many open looks with their passing ability, but he is the type of player you go after you get a go to scorer and rim protector.  I'd trade Green for him though, at least he can do something at an elite level and open up the floor for everyone else with his shooting.

[LooseCannon]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

Mozgov seems like the sort of player who a team like Denver would be stubborn about trading.  I don't think he is a good trade target because of that.

Yes, I think the time to get Mozgov has passed. Seems like he was available on the cheap when they still had Javell McGee in the rotation. I think the price would be high for Mozgov now.

No, I think they were always going to hang onto him even then.  Koufos was always going to be the more available player.

[Dog_Lover106]

Anyone mention Timo Mozgov?  He's a guy who is playing very solidly out in Denver.  He would probably automatically be our starting center. 

Mozgov seems like the sort of player who a team like Denver would be stubborn about trading.  I don't think he is a good trade target because of that.

Yes, I think the time to get Mozgov has passed. Seems like he was available on the cheap when they still had Javell McGee in the rotation. I think the price would be high for Mozgov now.

No, I think they were always going to hang onto him even then.  Koufos was always going to be the more available player.

I read when Koufos was there he was really unhappy and contemplated going back to Russia and/or requested a trade. He likes Shaw better.

But From Wojo this summer on 7/26: 
"Several sign-and-trade scenarios were discussed over recent weeks, but Mozgov and the Nuggets were committed to re-partnering after getting closer on the terms of the deal in the past week, sources said: "

Little-used Timofey Mozgov unlikely to stay with Denver Nuggets - The Denver Post  - 1/25/13
"The combination of the Nuggets acquiring center JaVale McGee late last season and Kosta Koufos' improved performance this season has made Mozgov the odd guy out among the Nuggets' big men, who include Kenneth Faried and Wilson Chandler playing power forward."

In the end they did sign Mozgov and trade Koufos so perhaps he was never available. He looked great against the Celtics.

[LilRip]

Harrison Barnes or Klay Thompson could be available within a couple of years. 

It seems unlikely to me that the Warriors will be able to afford to keep all of their key guys once Klay and Harrison are finishing their rookie deals.

Although perhaps they'll just find a taker for David Lee or Bogut.


Considering where our team is at right now, I don't think overpaid guys, or guys who are in line to be overpaid -- see Evan Turner and Eric Gordon -- are good targets.  I'm interested in bargains.

Harrison Barnes? Klay Thompson? ok, that got me excited