Kevin Love frustrated in Minny,Would you include Sully in a trade to get Love ?

[pearljammer10]

Absolutely.

Sully, draft picks, another player not named Rajon Rondo, you name it, for Kevin Love? Yes!

You are correct sir.

[PaulAllen]

I would give him the Garnett deal Green, Sully, OLynck, and a first, maybe 2

[beklog]

I would give him the Garnett deal Green, Sully, OLynck, and a first, maybe 2

too much for unrestricted free-agent on 2015.

[Fafnir]

I would give him the Garnett deal Green, Sully, OLynck, and a first, maybe 2

too much for unrestricted free-agent on 2015.

Garnett also had an opt out after one more year when we traded for him. He agreed to an extension as part of the trade.

[PaulAllen]

I would give him the Garnett deal Green, Sully, OLynck, and a first, maybe 2

too much for unrestricted free-agent on 2015.

I say that with an extension done at trade... Celtics can offer max at that point..ie Garnet deal

[Geo123]

They aren't going to trade him at this point in time so it really doesn't matter, (maybe at next year's deadline) but if you believe you could get him and not include Rondo you are kidding yourself.  Obviously it would involve a 3 way trade sicne they have Rubio...

[BudweiserCeltic]

I like Love, but I'm not going to overhaul our roster and give up a good prospect on a salary scale contract to get him. I rather keep what we have and take my chances in the free-agent market.

[Snakehead]

I really like Love, but like Sullinger in our situation most of all.

First off we don't have to give up anything to get him.  He's already on the team, can probably get a pretty friendly extension soon, and then can develop as we go.  And we can instead use our money and resources for other pieces.  Even if Sully doesn't develop into the consistent scorer Love is, as long as he is healthy, we have a good solid defender, a very good rebounder, and a guy who can get hot and score from the FT line to the paint.  But if he has Love type talent on a consistent basis and is an All-Star pretty soon, I'm not going to be surprised either.  He has a Pierce like knack for the game.

Second, while Sullinger has started showing flashes of Love like talent on offense, a big asset to his game is his tough mentality and defensive mindset.  I think he is already a pretty good defender and should only improve, given the effort and toughness he has.  On D he reminds me of David West.  Love on the other hand... he is not a defender and has shown himself to be very much a finesse player, despite that he mixes it up in box outs.  He also has a very different demeanor, which shows him complaining about calls and avoiding contact.  It is what it is, Love is very skilled, but how Sully plays by contrast I personally like a lot more.  One of your better players being a poor defender and one that doesn't have the mindset to improve is not a good thing.

I would much rather keep him in place and add around Sullinger.  As much as I like Love, our resources could be used elsewhere.  If we can get one of the very top picks this year, we should be looking at keeping Sully in place and adding on top of that base with our resources.

Say we get Embiid.  Then we have a Sully/Embiid front court and we can look to add scoring off the wing through a trade or a Free Agent.  I would like that make up more.

Or we could end up with Parker or Wiggins or whoever.  But we could have a much more complete team than one where we have to give up a ton of assets for Love.

[Monkhouse]

I really like Love, but like Sullinger in our situation most of all.

First off we don't have to give up anything to get him.  He's already on the team, can probably get a pretty friendly extension soon, and then can develop as we go.  And we can instead use our money and resources for other pieces.  Even if Sully doesn't develop into the consistent scorer Love is, as long as he is healthy, we have a good solid defender, a very good rebounder, and a guy who can get hot and score from the FT line to the paint.  But if he has Love type talent on a consistent basis and is an All-Star pretty soon, I'm not going to be surprised either.  He has a Pierce like knack for the game.

Second, while Sullinger has started showing flashes of Love like talent on offense, a big asset to his game is his tough mentality and defensive mindset.  I think he is already a pretty good defender and should only improve, given the effort and toughness he has.  On D he reminds me of David West.  Love on the other hand... he is not a defender and has shown himself to be very much a finesse player, despite that he mixes it up in box outs.  He also has a very different demeanor, which shows him complaining about calls and avoiding contact.  It is what it is, Love is very skilled, but how Sully plays by contrast I personally like a lot more.  One of your better players being a poor defender and one that doesn't have the mindset to improve is not a good thing.

I would much rather keep him in place and add around Sullinger.  As much as I like Love, our resources could be used elsewhere.  If we can get one of the very top picks this year, we should be looking at keeping Sully in place and adding on top of that base with our resources.

Wow took the words right out of my mouth .

TP.

Completely agree.

Sully may or may not be the next Kevin Love of the East, but even then if he can't ever become like Kevin Love, Sullinger can at least defend and hustle hard on the boards. Plus we can sign him to a team friendly deal, and worry about other spots on the roster that need help.

Why Kevin Love anyway? Why so much infatuation? Yes he grabs boards, and has great offensive abilities, but hes a terrible net minus rating on defense.

If you and David Lee are in the same conversation for worst defender, then that isn't a good thing imo...

That being said I wish we got DeMarcus Cousins or could've found a way to grab him when his value was declining at the time. DMC is already proving his mark as one of the best Centers in the league right now.

[PaulAllen]

Sullinger is not a game changer... a great role player but should be traded away if a big opportunity (like Love) arises..

[Sizzlack]

I'd have to agree with your sentiments here. Love is a better player, right now. That's not in questions.

But Sullinger is proving the gap isn't all that substantial, and his ceiling could be just as high as Love's. Given the fact that he's still on his rookie deal, and under team control at bargain prices for the next two years, I'd have a hard time feeling good about dealing him.

Love is already making max money as well, so if you deal him, you're locking yourself into that, for only slightly more consistent production. Sullinger, even after his rookie deal is up, becomes an RFA and the Celtics hold all the chips. Absolutely worst case scenario would be some other team coming in and offering him a max contract deal (about 16mil, basically the deal Hibbert got after his rookie expired) and the Celtics having to match. And with his back issues, I could see teams scared away from doing that, and the Celtics being able to lock him up at a much more reasonable number, somewhere around 11-12mil a year.

All in all, while Love and admittedly the better player right now, I think the long term potential value on Sully is well worth the risk and taking a chance on his upside.

[Monkhouse]

Sullinger is not a game changer... a great role player but should be traded away if a big opportunity (like Love) arises..

Tell that to the Celtic that managed to break a record that only Larry Bird had in 1987....

Only Larry Bird has averaged 40 points 20 rebounds and 5 assists, the next person to match the closest one to it? Jared Sullinger with 25 points 20 rebounds and 4 assists...

You're joking if you seriously think Sully is just a role player... If DA said Sully was up for trade, you'd get at least 10-15 interested teams..

[MBunge]

I would give him the Garnett deal Green, Sully, OLynck, and a first, maybe 2

When talking basketball Kevins, Love does not belong in the same conversation as Garnett.  As someone else pointed out, Love is more like a super-sized David Lee.

Would I give up Sully, filler and a couple of 1st rounders for him?  Only if I had a plan in place to bring in someone else that would make Love only the 3rd best player on Boston's roster.

Mike

[Sizzlack]

Sullinger is not a game changer... a great role player but should be traded away if a big opportunity (like Love) arises..

Tell that to the Celtic that managed to break a record that only Larry Bird had in 1987....

Only Larry Bird has averaged 40 points 20 rebounds and 5 assists, the next person to match the closest one to it? Jared Sullinger with 25 points 20 rebounds and 4 assists...

You're joking if you seriously think Sully is just a role player... If DA said Sully was up for trade, you'd get at least 10-15 interested teams..

Nobody, even, has AVERAGED numbers like that.

Bird was the last player to put up a 25+, 20+, 4+ line, which Sully matched (obviously with a far less total in the point column, but neither her nor there.) Those are not averages.

And for the record, of the 6 players to ever put up 20/20 games, Mark Blount is one of them. So just keep that in mind, one game does not make a career.

I'm not saying Sully will be the next Blount, but he's also not going to be Larry Bird either. The truth is somewhere in the middle: Sully is a really good player who's only getting better and has a ceiling that is currently unknown, but could be pretty high. How high? I'm not sure anyone can really answer that question just yet.

[kozlodoev]

You're joking if you seriously think Sully is just a role player... If DA said Sully was up for trade, you'd get at least 10-15 interested teams..

And you're deluding yourself if you think he's anything more. For reference, check the Oklahoma City Hornets, who had their own Sullinger in David West.