Brooks and Crawford Just traded. (Per Woj Tweet)

[jojowhite10]

Jordan Crawford is a terrible player however. So he is putting up 13 and 6 on a terrible team playing what, 35 to 40 minutes a night?

Sadly, your perception just doesn't match the reality. Crawford plays 30 minute a night (posting 14 and 6 in the process). That's on track to post 18/8 if he did indeed play 40 minutes a night -- just in case you wondered

...Crawford is a terrible player, though. And he was a bad teammate from an objective perspective. Anyone who watched a game realized that Crawford was not in the long term plans for a competitive team. He shot more shots than everyone on the team other than Bradley and Green--that could explain for his high point totals.

He averaged the most TOs on the team, and his FG percentage had dropped to just 1 pt higher than Bayless' on the season. I think you're giving the dude too much credit. A lot of players' stats look great when spread out over 40 minutes.

On a per-minute basis, he took less shots than Bradley, Green and Sullinger. He also took just .5 shot per 36 minutes more than Courtney Lee. Pegging him as the 4-5 scoring option on the team is probably an accurate assessment.

Courtney Lee played probably less than ten minutes a game and was told to shoot at will, especially considering he was shooting from behind the arc at like a 48 percent clip.

Nowhere in what I wrote did I say Crawford was our team's first, second, third, or even fourth option on offense. I simply stated he had taken the third most shots on the team for the year. That means nothing other than he has taken the third most shots on the team for the year.

Pearljammer10 said he was a terrible player on a terrible team. He was both of those things. You telling me that in fact Sully shot more shots per minute does nothing to dissuade me from that notion. He still managed to give the ball away more than anyone on the team. And yes I know he was PG and had the ball in his hands more. He disrupted the flow of the offense and was a bad teammate.

I think your tendency to one up someone with a somewhat pertinent stat distracts attention from the larger issue at hand--Crawford wasn't good for our team.

[BigAlTheFuture]

I think the Sixers makes the playoffs next year they have a pretty good young core and they will add 2 lottery picks this year. We could be looking at 3 first rounders in 2015.

again, I do not know much about college ball or future prospects

how is the draft in 2015? is it as hyped as this year's?

Jahlil Okafor and Myles Turner are suppose to be two of the best big men prospect in awhile. We'll see.

[pp34isthe1]

This trade on its own makes no sense for Boston...they basically gave up Crawford and Brooks for nothing.  All they get back is Joel Anthony (who is crap and is owed the same money) and two (likely second round) draft picks.

I am assuming this deal was made to make room for a bigger deal - most likely that Danny needed either roster spaces, draft picks or a guy on a $3M contract (or all three) to make the next deal work.

Either that or Danny made the trade to purposely make the team worse in the hope of losing more games and getting the worst record possible for the draft.

Tanking or prelude for another deal would be the only two explainations that make any sense for Boston.

Crawfords not in the future, Brooks isnt in the future. Miami also sent a 2nd rounder so thats 3 2nd rounders with potential to be a 1st along with a 2nd rounder. Freed'd up a spot for Bogans and probably didnt effect the teams wins.

Id say it was a good trade.

[Birdman]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

[DinoRadjaLives]

Joel Anthony has a player option in 2015. Does Anthony opt out freeing 3.8 mil or is he a get paid regardless player? I personally think that 76's will not make playoff either year so we will get a high 2nd round pick. Like someone said expiring contract for next season....or

Danny plans on trading some bigs and using Anthony in the 3rd C role with plans of trading next year at trade deadline.

[jay]

Second of all, Boston gets one of the following:

1) A first-round pick this year or next year, likely to be in the 15-20 range, and a 2nd rounder in 2016.

OR

2) A 2nd rounder in 2015, which is guaranteed to be early in the round, as otherwise Philly would have had a good enough record to give up a first, and TWO second rounders in 2016.

They got this for a player who last year no one wanted, who this summer no one wanted, and this off-season will not be given a qualifying offer.  They got this because they were willing to take on $3.8 million in salary from the Heat, some of which they're getting paid back for.

As I've said already in this thread, Boston's goal this offseason is to sign a free agent through a sign-and-trade, or to get a good player from a team that is looking to shed salary/rebuild themselves.  To do this, they need two things: draft picks, and expiring contracts in 2015.  They got both of those in this trade, for someone they didn't want and no one else did all that much either.  And if they don't succeed at making a trade this offseason, they still acquired draft picks, potentially one that can be as good as #15 overall next year.

At worst it was an okay trade for Boston.  Depending what comes of either the Philly draft pick or what they're able to flip it for, it has the potential to be much better.

Now with Crawford gone, Jared Bayless may get some minutes and Danny can watch his trade value go up and get something for nothing, again. 

[PAOBoston]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

Accumulating lots of picks, young talent, and expiring contracts makes it easier to acquire proven NBA players. Just because the Celtics have like a zillion picks in the next 5 years, it doesn't mean they are actually going to draft all of them. Draft picks are a type of currency for GM's. The more you have, it makes getting expensive stuff easier.

[fairweatherfan]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

There's 0 chance we're using all of those picks.  Probably a small chance we'll use as many as half.  Those are trade assets to get us proven NBA players down the line.

[Geo123]

I personally like the trade.  DA picked up assets.  This is how he has to do things and what he did to build us the last time.  I don't understand why people think it's going to be just 2nd rounders.  The 76ers will add Noel and a probable high lottery pick next year which means they WILL be in line to make the playoffs next year which makes the pick a #1 for 2015.   

Look neither Crawford or Brooks had a future here and yet both were traded for future picks.  Plus Anthony will have value next year as an expiring if he picks up his option.  If not then he doesn't cost you anyting.  Plus we picked up an open roster spot.   

[connerhenry43]

I like Bayless more than Crawford anyway.

And I see no way Joel Anthony does not pick up his players option for 2015.

[ReadyFor17]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

Accumulating lots of picks, young talent, and expiring contracts makes it easier to acquire proven NBA players. Just because the Celtics have like a zillion picks in the next 5 years, it doesn't mean they are actually going to draft all of them. Draft picks are a type of currency for GM's. The more you have, it makes getting expensive stuff easier.

Yep, those "proven NBA players" have to come from somewhere. Crawford isn't one (at least not one that will be on the next great Celtics team) and he wasn't going to directly land us one in trade. The next best thing is turning him into assets.

Ainge was able to turn it around last time in large part because he had/acquired a total of 9 first rounders in 5 drafts from '03-'07. Many of these picks provided little value on their own, but every single one of them contributed to building a winner.

[BigAlTheFuture]

And I see no way Joel Anthony does not pick up his players option for 2015.

Yeah, I agree. No way a team is giving him anything more than the vet's minimum.

[daveh51292]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

There's 0 chance we're using all of those picks.  Probably a small chance we'll use as many as half.  Those are trade assets to get us proven NBA players down the line.

I'm curious as to whether the accumulation of draft picks by a particular GM makes them individually seem less valuable from the perspective of opposing GMs, as in they may view them as more dispensable since the team offering them seemingly has an 'abundance' of picks. In other words, will other GMs become more greedy during negotiations with the C's knowing our accumulated assets?

[Monkhouse]

Don't know why a lot of ppl like draft picks...I rather have proven NBA players than all these picks that, who knows, all may be busted picks

There's 0 chance we're using all of those picks.  Probably a small chance we'll use as many as half.  Those are trade assets to get us proven NBA players down the line.

I'm curious as to whether the accumulation of draft picks by a particular GM makes them individually seem less valuable from the perspective of opposing GMs, as in they may view them as more dispensable since the team offering them seemingly has an 'abundance' of picks. In other words, will other GMs become more greedy during negotiations with the C's knowing our accumulated assets?

And watch as Danny Ainge laughs, and says, "have a nice day."

[manl_lui]

And I see no way Joel Anthony does not pick up his players option for 2015.

Yeah, I agree. No way a team is giving him anything more than the vet's minimum.

I also agree with this, but perhaps Danny might want Stevens to play him to inflate his value as well. Anthony probably won't net us a 1st or a 2nd rounder but MAYBE, he could be included with other players as a package in a trade

I don't see Anthony here long term, so if Anthony opts in, Danny has a few options

1. Cut him
2. Trade him
3. Buy him out