Humphries for Asik trade idea

[Tr1boy]

To rockets: Humprhies + right to swap 2016 1st
To celtics: Asik

Rockets to me are in dire need of a backup to Howard. They don't need Bass, they need a bigger body for the rest of this year, a vet presence, to give Howard a good 10 minute rest each game. Humphries would match this description imo

[moiso]

The more time that goes by with Asik whining, not playing well, or not playing at all, the less interested I am in acquiring him.

I'd rather wait until after this season regardless.

[SHAQATTACK]

Their GM at least thinks he has DA over a barrel ........battle of wills......


If the Rockets bomb the playoffs the pressure to dump Asik will be much higher ......unload him for a player that can play effectively beside Howard.

Asik.....doesn't add a lot to this team....same situation as Bull and Noah............if you are competing .......guys like Howard and Noah are top five and need to be in the game ALOT.

So,  Houston could spend Asiks salary much wiser with an asset that goes with Howard and the Beard

If we can keep Rondo benched and get a decent draft pick.......then I would trade Green for Asik

[Monkhouse]

At this point especially with the smoke screening and posturing, why offer a 12 million expiring contract for Humphries? I seriously think Danny is looking to either package some trades for Melo, or try to move as many players to save cap space, and get first round picks.

Asik isn't worth 12 million expiring, and the Rockets should know this is a dire need.

[2short]

I'd be offering bass, crawford and a lesser pick period.
We don't need asik for a playoff run this year.  We can look at other centers who are as good or better as the season and offseason go. 
I am all for resigning Hump but to a better team friendly contract and having him as first big off the bench (if we have a true center) he can give minutes at both pf and c and is reliable.

[Moranis]

I think Asik for Boozer would be an interesting trade for both teams, obviously that doesn't work from a salary standpoint but if they could find a package to make it work I think that would be a good trade for both of them.

Maybe something like this

Chicago - Asik, Humphries
Houston - Boozer, Hinrich, Teague
Boston - Lin

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Kris Humphries is giving us what Omer Asik is supposed to give us already, and we have to give up a 1st rounder for Asik?

We need to #KeepHump, and trade someone else along with that 1st rounder to get Asik. Both of them will for a great defensive 4-5 combo. Let's trade Bass instead. Lee and Bass got snubbed because of the pick, I'd say we trade the Brooklyn pick already along with Bass and Bogans for Asik instead.

With Asik - Sullinger - Humphries, we are set at the big men slots, and whatever we get from KO and Faverani will be gravy. Which is why trading the Brooklyn pick should be alright.

#KeepHump.

[indeedproceed]

Kris Humphries is giving us what Omer Asik is supposed to give us already, and we have to give up a 1st rounder for Asik?

No he's not.

[RJ87]

Kris Humphries is giving us what Omer Asik is supposed to give us already, and we have to give up a 1st rounder for Asik?

No he's not.

This made me LOL.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Kris Humphries is giving us what Omer Asik is supposed to give us already, and we have to give up a 1st rounder for Asik?

No he's not.

Yes he is.

The past few games he showed he can protect the rim, and the rebounding too. Not to mention he's a better free throw shooter.

edit:

Asik averaged 12 points, 14 rebound, 1.3 blocks on 54% shooting per 36 last year (which was the relevant year since he's playing)

Hump this year goes 14/10/2 blocks/52% shooting, has better assists numbers ( 2 vs 0.8 ) and is a much better free throw shooter and has a mid range game. Why would I give up a $12 million expiring contract AND a first rounder to get a somewhat similar player with a little lesser skill set? Is it because he's taller? Is the extra height and the four extra rebounds worth that much?

I'd rather have them both, keep the expiring so at worst I'll have $12 million off the books and at best, I'll have two guys who can control the boards and protect the rim. Trade someone else.

[LooseCannon]

Is the extra height and the four extra rebounds worth that much?

The Celtics are close to average in rebounds.  Golden State has the most team rebounds and average a bit over 4 rebounds per game more than the Celtics.  How valuable would it be for the Celtics to go from an average rebounding team to a top-three rebounding team?

[indeedproceed]

Is the extra height and the four extra rebounds worth that much?

The Celtics are close to average in rebounds.  Golden State has the most team rebounds and average a bit over 4 rebounds per game more than the Celtics.  How valuable would it be for the Celtics to go from an average rebounding team to a top-three rebounding team?

Also the defense just isn't comparable. I've done it so often that I don't wanna get lost in it again, but they're not close.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Is the extra height and the four extra rebounds worth that much?

The Celtics are close to average in rebounds.  Golden State has the most team rebounds and average a bit over 4 rebounds per game more than the Celtics.  How valuable would it be for the Celtics to go from an average rebounding team to a top-three rebounding team?

Also the defense just isn't comparable. I've done it so often that I don't wanna get lost in it again, but they're not close.

Very very valuable. That is why you keep Humphries, trade someone else and the pick for Asik instead of Hump. With those two, along with Sully taking the big man minutes, rebounds will be a plenty (assuming the defense gets better and we actually get misses).

And to IP: I guess we agree to disagree.

I see Humphries can protect the rim, can board, and is an expiring contract. I'm getting a guy who's taller but little similar for him and a first rounder? No thanks. I'm not saying I don't want Asik, I'm saying I'd rather trade someone else.

[LooseCannon]

I don't think you should plan on keeping Humphries beyond this season unless you plan on committing to him as the starter at PF or are willing to pay him starter money to come off the bench behind Sullinger.

[crimson_stallion]

Please tell me, in which statistic areas is Asik a significant enough improvement over Humphries that it justifies a youngrebuilding team giving up $12M in expiring contracts for him?

I see only one statistical area in which Asik is better on a per 36 min basis and that is rebounding - about 12 per 36 for Asik and about 10 per 36 for Hump.

Hump averaging more blocks, similar assists, more points (he is far superior to Asik offensively) and I'm pretty sure he has a higher Per and +/- as well, along with being a consummate professional as a teammate all season long (while Asik has been whining like a cow on the Rockets bench).

Hump is about the same age as well, abd has similar upside (i.e. both pretty much are who they are).

When are you people going to realise that Asik is a turd of a player with a Platinum price tag?  Any minor gain in player ability (if any) that we get by trading Hump for Asik is far, far outweighed by the loss of a big expiring contract which would have given us at least SOME flexibility this off-season.